Embracing Socialism??? Great News….

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I see that, following the lead of the Democrat Party, a number of pro-socialism threads have popped up. To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth.




Whom The Gods Would Destroy they first make mad. Soooo….the Democrat Party is racing full bore to, once again, being the Socialist Party….and destroying itself.

1."MARXISTS AND EXTREME RADICALS SEEK TO TAKE OVER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
  • DNC chairman Tom Perez said Democratic Socialists of America member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez “represents the future of our party.”
  • DSA chapter chairs have agreed that “communism is good.”
  • One DSA caucus calls its members “revolutionary Marxists.”
Marxists And Extreme Radicals Seek To Take Over The Democratic Party





2.What is obvious to anyone with over a double digit IQ, is that socialism does not work, is a failure that produces poverty, not prosperity….yet it is taking over the Democrat Party.

Hooray!


The Democrats are raising to the level of a catechism that what is missing from America is the sense of redistributive social justice, and income equality.

And, what the dopes who vote for this miss, or refuse to admit, is that it requires the complete take-over of the economy by big government.

Socialism can be boiled down to “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” It can only be assured by centralization and nationalization of all resources and industries.
Sound familiar? If you vote Democrat, you vote for this.

Ben Shapiro is all over this....
Ben Shapiro On The False Claims of the Socialist Democratic Party





In this thread.....exploding the lies and myths used to support socialism....
Here's one:

3. Myth#1 Proponents, non-thinkers, point out aspect of socialism existing at this time, as a claim that we live in a socialist nation.
As of this moment, we live in a capitalist nation with socialist programs, such a welfare and medicare.

These socialist programs are only possible only due to the good-heartedness of the most generous people on earth, the American people.

"We usually hear about charity in the media when there is a terrible disaster. For example, after Hurricane Katrina, we heard about the incredible outpouring of private generosity that amounted to $6 billion. What gets less attention is that Americans routinely give that much to charity every week. Last year Americans gave $300 billion to charity. To put this into perspective, that is almost twice what we spent on consumer electronics equipment—equipment including cell phones, iPods and DVD players. Americans gave three times as much to charity last year as we spent on gambling and ten times as much as we spent on professional sports. America is by far the most charitable country in the world. There is no other country that comes close."
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The Generosity of America





Sooo, why do Democrats ignore this truth??
For control....of the economy, and of our lives.



More to come....
 
So what are the current odds that we'll be working from the same definition of "socialism" in this thread?

Given this board's history, I'd put them at something less than 300-1.

Probably safe to assume that it will mean "anything that Trump doesn't agree to in his tweets".
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So what are the current odds that we'll be working from the same definition of "socialism" in this thread?

Given this board's history, I'd put them at something less than 300-1.

Probably safe to assume that it will mean "anything that Trump doesn't agree to in his tweets".
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Speaking of 'history,' let's keep in mind two facts:

a. I'm never wrong

b. I will always be ready to prove what I post.....as I did yesterday, proving that there is no such thing as a 'Far Right' in this country.
I'm sure you recall that argument you lost.


Hence, this thread, at least my parts of it, will be chock full of facts, truth and accuracy.
You'd be well advised to take notes.
 
So what are the current odds that we'll be working from the same definition of "socialism" in this thread?

Given this board's history, I'd put them at something less than 300-1.

Probably safe to assume that it will mean "anything that Trump doesn't agree to in his tweets".
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Speaking of 'history,' let's keep in mind two facts:

a. I'm never wrong

b. I will always be ready to prove what I post.....as I did yesterday, proving that there is no such thing as a 'Far Right' in this country.
I'm sure you recall that argument you lost.


Hence, this thread, at least my parts of it, will be chock full of facts, truth and accuracy.
You'd be well advised to take notes.
Sure, we're all waiting for your evidence with great anticipation.

Please provide your definition of "socialism" for the purposes of this thread.

Not cut & pasted, but your own actual words 'n stuff.

Oh, and just this time: Clear and concise, please.

Thanks in advance.
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More on socialism,…..the bane of prosperity.


4.Myth #2 Socialists claim not to be communists, the single significant distinction being the use of force. Yet….it’s put into effect by voting in socialists, who pass laws regulating industry into dust. This is what happened under the Nazis, the national socialists. The coercive force of government….is the use of force.



".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

“It is far more common to believe that [Nazi socialism] represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed.



The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.” Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman



While communists.....and socialists, when they acquire enough power, use the bayonet and the gulag, socialists in power use regulation.

This, largely, is both the reason for their hatred of Trump, and for Trump's amazing success:


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Looking forward to a clear and concise working definition of socialism.


You can find same in both of my posts, you dunce.
You must have missed the "clear" and "concise" and "in your own words" parts of my request.

My apologies, I didn't realize my request would prove to be so problematic for you.

I guess I just assumed that Hannity or Levin had covered this for you at some point.

Okay, never mind. Carry on.
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Looking forward to a clear and concise working definition of socialism.
You'll never get that, Mac.


I certainly can't identify with your problem, as I had an excellent education, but you government school grads might do better with this:


"Prof. Jay Richards offers this helpful primer.

“Marx and his disciples claimed that ‘capitalism’ must give way to ‘socialism,’ where private property would be abolished and an all-powerful state would own everything on behalf of the people. That’s what Marx meant by the word socialism, and that’s the main dictionary definition.


“This was only supposed to be a stage, though, not the end of all our strivings. At some point, under socialism, people would lose their silly fondness for property, family, religion, and other evils. A ‘new socialist man’ would emerge and then the state would ‘wither away.’ Everyone would enjoy peace, prosperity, and the brotherhood of man. Marx and his acolytes called that final, stateless paradise ‘communism.’”

And how has that vision worked itself out in history?"
Michael Brown - 3 Reasons Why So Many Millennials Love Socialism



See how I take care of the lesser among us?
 
" To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth."

Anything but the truth. Copy and paste Hannity BS. I didn't know you are a comedian.
 
" To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth."

Anything but the truth. Copy and paste Hannity BS. I didn't know you are a comedian.


Let's leave it up to our readers as to who speaks truth.

I believe that conclusion will mirror the last election.
 
Looking forward to a clear and concise working definition of socialism.
You'll never get that, Mac.


I certainly can't identify with your problem, as I had an excellent education, but you government school grads might do better with this:


"Prof. Jay Richards offers this helpful primer.

“Marx and his disciples claimed that ‘capitalism’ must give way to ‘socialism,’ where private property would be abolished and an all-powerful state would own everything on behalf of the people. That’s what Marx meant by the word socialism, and that’s the main dictionary definition.


“This was only supposed to be a stage, though, not the end of all our strivings. At some point, under socialism, people would lose their silly fondness for property, family, religion, and other evils. A ‘new socialist man’ would emerge and then the state would ‘wither away.’ Everyone would enjoy peace, prosperity, and the brotherhood of man. Marx and his acolytes called that final, stateless paradise ‘communism.’”

And how has that vision worked itself out in history?"
Michael Brown - 3 Reasons Why So Many Millennials Love Socialism



See how I take care of the lesser among us?
I do appreciate your patience with those of us who simply don't possess your prodigious intellectual capacity & dexterity.

But I must ask one last time: Please provide a clear and concise working definition of socialism, in your own words.

Since we know that private property is not going to be abolished, since we know that we won't have a situation in which the government owns and controls all means of production and distribution, you must have your own peculiar definition. Unless you have completely succumbed to paranoia.

Thumb through your notes from Hannity and Levin broadcasts. I'm sure it's in there, somewhere.
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" To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth."

Anything but the truth. Copy and paste Hannity BS. I didn't know you are a comedian.


Let's leave it up to our readers as to who speaks truth.

I believe that conclusion will mirror the last election.
Speak for yourself PC. "Our readers" are USMB posters. Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana.
 
" To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth."

Anything but the truth. Copy and paste Hannity BS. I didn't know you are a comedian.


Let's leave it up to our readers as to who speaks truth.

I believe that conclusion will mirror the last election.
Speak for yourself PC. "Our readers" are USMB posters. Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana.

"Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana."


Can you make that 'Texas'?
 
There is the appeal to the soft-hearted….and soft-headed.



5. Myth #3 Socialism is ‘fairer.’ By fair, the Left means equal in material wealth.

But that’s hardly the meaning of fair: fair is Karma- you get what you deserve. The basis of socialism is that one need not be responsible for one’s actions: there are to be no consequences for poor, or even evil, actions or choices.

a. charity is the view that we should help people who need help…..but it is ‘voluntary, not forced.

b. socialism has the absurd view that need creates additional rights. So, if one is poor, he has the right to take what belongs to another.




While the Left hates religion….they actually try to use it to prove the benefit of socialism.


So.....socialism endorsed in the Bible????

Not hardly.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'

"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.

These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicates—but there is choice involved. 17 But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?



With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is “fair” from the “givers.”
Is God a Socialist?



Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these : Socialism, Liberalism, Communism…..or Nazism
 
" To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth."

Anything but the truth. Copy and paste Hannity BS. I didn't know you are a comedian.


Let's leave it up to our readers as to who speaks truth.

I believe that conclusion will mirror the last election.
Speak for yourself PC. "Our readers" are USMB posters. Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana.

"Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana."


Can you make that 'Texas'?

Take your pick. MT TX VA. What does it matter.

Now go and copy and paste some more hate filled Hannity BS for me to ignore.
 
" To ‘cleanse the palate,’ so to speak, I feel it necessary to provide the truth."

Anything but the truth. Copy and paste Hannity BS. I didn't know you are a comedian.


Let's leave it up to our readers as to who speaks truth.

I believe that conclusion will mirror the last election.
Speak for yourself PC. "Our readers" are USMB posters. Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana.

"Jesus, your ego is the size of Montana."


Can you make that 'Texas'?

Take your pick. MT TX VA. What does it matter.

Now go and copy and paste some more hate filled Hannity BS for me to ignore.




"Now go and copy and paste..."

It is such a compliment to me and my posts that the best you dolts can do is carp about the manner of presentation, never able to dispute the ideas in my threads.


I'd say 'don't ever change,' but we both know you can't.



It must bother you immensely that you are never able to refute what I post.

Excellent.
 

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