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[JakeStarkey]

This all happened under Obama why do you deflect so?

The SOFA was supposed to be negotiated by Bush. He failed. Why do you blame Obama? You obviously wanted him to allow Iraqis to try Americans in Iraqi courts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Has it ever dawned on you there is a reason this went from a won war to a total failure upon Bush handing over the reigns to obie?

You have not figured it out? Bush would not negotiate a SOFA and Obama would not allow our troops to stay without one. You obviously want our troops tried in Iraqi courts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Since Bush would not sign a SOFA to protect our troops, we broth them home, and ISIL is threatening Iraq stability.

Either the Iraqis fight and protect their freedom, or they won't.

What is true is that the USA will not send another American army to Iraq.

False choice.

You are wrong as usual. Iraq wins or loses. All we can do is help from the air and the sidelines. We are not sending another army, since Bush could not protect the one we had.

This issue will be part of the election primaries.

I hope Kasich comes out on the sensible side: help Iraq where we can, but they win or lose it in the end.

3 Katushas awarded. No one here talking US army invasion.

You better go talk to McCain, Graham, Christie, Perry, Clinton, and almost all the neo-cons on the Board.

 

[deltex1]

How much is 6000 divided by 60? Obama wants 6000 moderate Syrian Rebels trained. At 60 per year we are looking at a 100 year program. Now that's what I call strategic patience....yo....

 

[JakeStarkey]

How much is 6000 divided by 60? Obama wants 6000 moderate Syrian Rebels trained. At 60 per year we are looking at a 100 year program. Now that's what I call strategic patience....yo....

Now that is a valid point. Need for Syrian rebels and more Iraqis stand up for freedom. If Obama is failing, maybe the next president and step up the training and recruitment program. BUT . . . only the Iraqis and Kurds and Syrians keep their lands free.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Bush had a SOFA, it was what we operated on until it expired and the next president was supposed to extend. But obie failed once again at getting that done.

Nope. Bush was supposed to get it done before he left office and it expired. Bush failure.

It expired after he left. It was up to the man child community organizer after that. WTF do you want Bush to make sure nothing can go wrong for 8 years after a complete retard takes over? Bush won the war and obie fucking lost it. Those are facts so stop blaming the man that did the job in favor of thee one that's a failure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It was Bush's duty to negotiate the SOFA. He failed. Obama would not sign a SOFA that would send American troops to Iraqi courts, so the troops came home.

Missouri Mike, let it be known, would have had American troops go to Iraqi courts rather than come home. It was two years, after the boob left office, so Obama brought the troops home. When the Iraqis caved on the issue after ISIL's big gains and offered the right SOFA, Obama signed it and sent trainers and advisers back.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A picture of one of your neo-cons trying to stop our troops from leaving Iraq.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Has it ever dawned on you there is a reason this went from a won war to a total failure upon Bush handing over the reigns to obie?

You have not figured it out? Bush would not negotiate a SOFA and Obama would not allow our troops to stay without one. You obviously want our troops tried in Iraqi courts.

Maybe we should have just voted for obie to be president but left Bush in charge over the last two terms. You seem to want to blame him for everything and really obie could have just gone golfing without all the distractions of actually running the fucking country in the first place. He obviously wasn't up to the task and you wish someone else was to blame as well so why did we suffer through this fucking farce in the first place? Has there really been a worse president in our lifetime's than one that not only can't fix anything but still relies on him and his pathetic followers blaming the previous president for his ungodly failures at the basics of the job? Two terms later and it's all W's fault for not making sure the lazy unqualified piece of shit you voted for is a success. Just keep paying taxes for some golf retreats and sending his fat fucking wife on vacation. Stop expecting any success from this pile of crap you voted for it's never going to happen. You're pathetic. Your president is pathetic. And your excuses are pathetic. I only wish Bush could step in and fix what you morons have fucked up.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

It was Bush's duty to negotiate the SOFA. He failed. Obama would not sign a SOFA that would send American troops to Iraqi courts, so the troops came home.

Missouri Mike, let it be known, would have had American troops go to Iraqi courts rather than come home. It was two years, after the boob left office, so Obama brought the troops home. When the Iraqis caved on the issue after ISIL's big gains and offered the right SOFA, Obama signed it and sent trainers and advisers back.

So you admit Bush left with two years for this idiot obie to come up with a plan. No matter how you spin it obie failed and his failures keep getting worse. We would have been much better off if Bush was actually in charge instead of you blaming him for something your guy should have easily taken care of.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Missouri Mike, stop the fucking melt down and grow up.

I said truthfully Bush failed to get a SOFA. That is not blaming him for everything, so stop your unbalanced hissy fit.

Vacation trips? The Obama have spent far less vacation time than Bush. What is wrong with you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Missouri Mike admits that Bush could not come up with a SOFA.

No matter how much Mike spins it, Bush failed, and thus Mike would want American troops go to Iraqi courts.

 

[deltex1]

Obama hoped that he could pull out of Iraq and that stability would prevail, and he would be the winner of the war and preserver of the peace. And if it went to shit he would have Bush to blame...with the support of low information zombies such as the Libtards on this board. Just as now he slow rolls any initiative, trying frantically to avoid disaster until he can get out of town in 2017 and then blame the next CINC.

 

[JakeStarkey]

deltex does a slow run into the sea. Shot down! The fact is that Bush failed to get a SOFA and the Iraqi PM would not sign a SOFA with Obama that excluded Americans from going to Iraqi courts.

 

[deltex1]

No U.S. Troops Didn t Have to Leave Iraq National Review Online

 

[deltex1]

deltex does a slow run into the sea. Shot down! The fact is that Bush failed to get a SOFA and the Iraqi PM would not sign a SOFA with Obama that excluded Americans from going to Iraqi courts.

Jake clings desperately to the straw labeled Maliki and the Iraqi courts...as if we had no power to control those we had defeated. Horseshit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You wanted them to stay without a SOFA?

Like National Review you wanted our troops subject to Iraqi courts?

The Iraqis were allies not our enemies, you boobs.

The far right has always hated our troops.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

deltex does a slow run into the sea. Shot down! The fact is that Bush failed to get a SOFA and the Iraqi PM would not sign a SOFA with Obama that excluded Americans from going to Iraqi courts.

Jake clings desperately to the straw labeled Maliki and the Iraqi courts...as if we had no power to control those we had defeated. Horseshit.

You're wasting your time with these ass hats. They speak of what they know little of. Iraq is another Obama fail, a long list of fails by this disaster. Hang in there America, 17 months and the nightmare ends

 

[deltex1]

We wanted Obabble to stand his ground and demonstrate American power and influence. Can you provide examples where he has shown himself capable of such leadership?

 

[JakeStarkey]

deltex, in another rickety aircraft, does another slow roll into the sea. You wanted Obama to submit our troops to Iraqi courts without SOFA protection.

Now you want to send another American army to Iraq.

Nope.