Elizabeth Warren: 'End Electoral College'

[Fang]

I agree. I always thought america was a democracy...but when Bush Jr got elected we the citizens of the world were shocked. And that's when we found about the electoral college. It really gives the power to the crazy minority and that's why we have trump and his crazies....the US should join the democratic countries and abolish the EC.

You mean you voted and and didn't understand the electoral college? That is truly stunning. It makes sense now why you're for the popular vote and don't understand the entire point of the electoral college and why it is so important to our country.

 

[Rustic]

Why should a states electors go against the majority of a state?

Because people should be the electors, not sage brush and cattle. Our most populous state has 70 X more people than our least populated state but their EC ratio is 18:1. Why should people be penalized for living in a more desirable state? The Founders are way over rated. In what other contest is the #2 finisher declared the winner?

Because it’s a republic not a shit eating democracy.... fuck face

 

[NoVote]

0vomit was, is, and forever will be a TREASONOUS RAT.

 

[Rustic]

Nobody wants "open borders". Stop lying

Lol
We have an wide open southern border, and no border security

 

[edward37]

From the OP:

Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton beat President Donald Trump by almost 3 million votes in the 2016 election by leading in strongly Democratic states. But Trump eventually won with the Electoral College’s help in swing states like Wisconsin and Michigan. Trump is the fifth United States president to have taken office without winning the national popular vote.

Washington redskin,
Actually the conservative/libertarian side receive more of the popular vote... lol
2016 Presidential General Election Results

Squeaked by in those swing states ....Won't get lucky again

 

[Rustic]

Republicans have been using all sorts of tactics to manipulate the vote....usually with voter suppression as the biggest tool. If we all vote...they lose. Their biggest weapon is low voter turnout. They know their base will turn out. They always do. But there's simply not enough of them so they need to keep voter turnout low.

They began doing this heavily in the 2000 election notably in Florida where they paid an outside company to "purge" the voter rolls...and gee...that third party company made all sorts of "mistakes" and purged tens of thousands (some reports say hundreds of thousands) of legal registered voters from the voter rolls.. and those voters just "happened" to be predominantly Dem voters.

That effort has been replicated all across the country.

We now see that in North Carolina they cheated so blatantly regarding "harvesting" absentee ballots that a House election had to be thrown out.

The whole "voter ID" thing was another way to suppress the vote. People who had been legal voters their entire lives were suddenly not allowed to vote. But THAT effort is fading as the number of people who don't have picture IDs etc. age out. Of course since that is becoming less effective they shift to other methods of voter suppression because they HAVE to in order to win elections

Lol
Just look up Tom Daschle in South Dakota…

 

[DGS49]

Keep in mind the Democrats' strategy for the future, and this discussion makes perfect sense.

The Plan is, the MINUTE we have a Democrat Congress and a Democrat President, THE THIRTY MILLION PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY WILL BE CONVERTED INTO VOTING CITIZENS! Everything Democrats have done for the past ten years has been based on this plan.

Those who are paying attention have noted the large number of YouTube videos that are floating around where noted Democrat political leaders in the 2003-2009 time frame are talking about the costs and, basically, the scourge of all the illegals in the country. Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and so on. Then that complaint instantly goes silent; they don't talk about it for a couple years; then they start publicly espousing the belief that these law-breakers need to be treated well and with dignity. They call it, "COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM," in order to hide the actual plan. They want the illegals to "come in out of the shadows," and all that nonsense.

There was an OVERT CHANGE IN DIRECTION in the Democrat party, and as with their changes on sodomy traditional marriage, and abortion, we are supposed to FORGET that they were always on the correct, moral side of the discussion, unanimously...until they WEREN'T.

This is what it's all about. They know that the bulk of the illegals they will be Citizen-izing will be living in a few highly-populated states, which would make it POSSIBLE that even with all their votes a Republican might still take the Electoral College, even as the Democrat candidate wins the "popular vote" in a rout. But with the Electoral College eliminated, Democrats will win EVERY NATIONAL ELECTION for as far as the eye can see with those [minimum] thirty million new votes.

 

[Faun]

Keep in mind the Democrats' strategy for the future, and this discussion makes perfect sense.

The Plan is, the MINUTE we have a Democrat Congress and a Democrat President, THE THIRTY MILLION PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY WILL BE CONVERTED INTO VOTING CITIZENS! Everything Democrats have done for the past ten years has been based on this plan.

Those who are paying attention have noted the large number of YouTube videos that are floating around where noted Democrat political leaders in the 2003-2009 time frame are talking about the costs and, basically, the scourge of all the illegals in the country. Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and so on. Then that complaint instantly goes silent; they don't talk about it for a couple years; then they start publicly espousing the belief that these law-breakers need to be treated well and with dignity. They call it, "COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM," in order to hide the actual plan. They want the illegals to "come in out of the shadows," and all that nonsense.

There was an OVERT CHANGE IN DIRECTION in the Democrat party, and as with their changes on sodomy traditional marriage, and abortion, we are supposed to FORGET that they were always on the correct, moral side of the discussion, unanimously...until they WEREN'T.

This is what it's all about. They know that the bulk of the illegals they will be Citizen-izing will be living in a few highly-populated states, which would make it POSSIBLE that even with all their votes a Republican might still take the Electoral College, even as the Democrat candidate wins the "popular vote" in a rout. But with the Electoral College eliminated, Democrats will win EVERY NATIONAL ELECTION for as far as the eye can see with those [minimum] thirty million new votes.

^^^ Utter nonsense

 

[Auld Phart]

Electoral College gave us Donald J Trump

Do we need any more proof it does not work?

Kept us from being saddled with Hillary...

Proof it DOES work

Will it still work in 2020 when Mich Penn Wicon that voted for the moron trump by a total of 72000 votes repeat?

probably

Think you're wrong A candidate like Biden won't be making mistakes in campaigning like Clinton did

what are you talking about?

your post was asking if the Electoral College would still work in 2020.

it probably will.

after 2016, I have little doubt whoever the candidate is will do more campaigning than Hillary did.

They couldn't do worse

 

[Fang]

Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Monday that she fully supports abolishing the Electoral College and moving toward a national vote, the first time the 2020 presidential candidate has publicly taken the stance.

“My view is that every vote matters,” the Massachusetts Democrat said to roaring applause at her CNN presidential town hall at Jackson State University in Mississippi. “And the way we can make that happen is that we can have national voting, and that means get rid of the Electoral College.”

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Getting Rid Of The Electoral College

Amen! I couldn't agree more! Elections should be about people - not acreage! BTW, the rest of the link is worth reading.

I find it highly disturbing that a US Senator and Presidential candidate would rather change the election laws instead of reaching out to the people in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, etc to figure out what they need. The entire point of the electoral college is so the needs of everyone are met. As it stands right now all the candidates will need to campaign in these states. Without the electoral college most states would never see the candidates.

 

[22lcidw]

Electoral College gave us Donald J Trump

Do we need any more proof it does not work?

Kept us from being saddled with Hillary...

Proof it DOES work

Will it still work in 2020 when Mich Penn Wicon that voted for the moron trump by a total of 72000 votes repeat?

probably

Think you're wrong A candidate like Biden won't be making mistakes in campaigning like Clinton did

So the smartest woman in the world is inferior to Biden. Who is a moron who learned through osmosis. What happened is, that Hillary was like a commie candidate. She was given all the answers and the threats to others and she somehow lost with the media/entertainment people laughing and demeaning people who would not vote for her and leaving those who would and not progressive socialists in limbo. Evidently it is fun to mock people on cable TV by assinine egotists before getting the prize. And it is still going on!

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Why are Left Wingers always such slow learners?
The EC is key to our representative democracy.

 

[Fang]

Why Left Wingers always such slow learners?
The EC is key to our representative democracy.

It does seem like it takes a higher level of understanding to truly understand the importance of the EC. Thus, Liberals want to abolish it.

 

[mudwhistle]

Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Monday that she fully supports abolishing the Electoral College and moving toward a national vote, the first time the 2020 presidential candidate has publicly taken the stance.

“My view is that every vote matters,” the Massachusetts Democrat said to roaring applause at her CNN presidential town hall at Jackson State University in Mississippi. “And the way we can make that happen is that we can have national voting, and that means get rid of the Electoral College.”

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Getting Rid Of The Electoral College

Amen! I couldn't agree more! Elections should be about people - not acreage! BTW, the rest of the link is worth reading.

Democrats feel they can manufacture enough illegal votes to swing the election now. If this happens the East & West coasts will control who gets in the White House effectively disenfranchising the rest of the country. This is strictly forbidden in the Constitution. It is also why Democrats are flooding Blue States with illegal voters.

 

[Pilot1]

Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Monday that she fully supports abolishing the Electoral College and moving toward a national vote, the first time the 2020 presidential candidate has publicly taken the stance.

“My view is that every vote matters,” the Massachusetts Democrat said to roaring applause at her CNN presidential town hall at Jackson State University in Mississippi. “And the way we can make that happen is that we can have national voting, and that means get rid of the Electoral College.”

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Getting Rid Of The Electoral College

Amen! I couldn't agree more! Elections should be about people - not acreage! BTW, the rest of the link is worth reading.

Democrats feel they can manufacture enough illegal votes to swing the election now. If this happens the East & West coasts will control who gets in the White House effectively disenfranchising the rest of the country. This is strictly forbidden in the Constitution. It is also why Democrats are flooding Blue States with illegal voters.

Which is why the Democrats want AMNESTY which is OPEN BORDERS. Yet, nobody will address, nor admit that here because the LEFT is populated by dishonest liars. It is the basis of Liberalism (Progressivism).

 

[jknowgood]

So you believe we should accept the opinion of Elizabeth Warren, the woman who lied about her ancestry for decades?

You’re a Trump worshipper and you’re calling out another Presidential candidate for lying? Really?

You do know Obama couldn't tell the truth either?

compared to the world class liar trump, obama was a saint

Obama was a lying shit head.

If so and I strongly disagree ,what does that make the moron in our WH now?

The moron you supported lied about where he was conceived. Lol

 

[Lesh]

I always thought america was a democracy...but when Bush Jr got elected we the citizens of the world were shocked.

Because you're ignorant.

Ignorant? I was shocked by one of the strangest and politically motivated SCOTUS rulings since Dred Scott. Bush v Gore

 

[Lesh]

Which is why the Democrats want AMNESTY which is OPEN BORDERS. Yet, nobody will address, nor admit that here because the LEFT is populated by dishonest liars. It is the basis of Liberalism (Progressivism).

AMNESTY (as you scream it) was a Ronnie Raygun policy...because there really is no other way to deal with the fact that business has enticed 11 million people to come here for JOBS.

They ain't leaving (nor would Big Business allow that). Some form of amnesty is a MUST in order to get them paying taxes on wages that are competitive with everyone else. Of course that needs to be combined with HEAVY enforcement of hiring practices...something that did NOT happen under Reagan or since....which CAUSED this problem to become what it is.

 

[Lesh]

Pardon me for injecting a bit of reason and logic (and history) into the discussion.

Now back to your regularly scheduled bashing of brown folks

 

[NoVote]

If so and I strongly disagree ,what does that make the moron in our WH now?

Smarter than you?