Elections

[wavingrl]

i have been thinking outside of the 'box'--

what i feel 'should' have happened, etc.

each and every voter chose to exercise the option of 'not voting'.

surely there are protocols in place for such a circumstance, if not--then we should address that.

when neither major party or anyone else has proven to be worthy of confidence--the only truly moral decision in the best interest of the nation is to 'go back to drawing board'. jmo.

your thoughts?

shrug---perfectionism---better to have it--tried life both ways. worse when i lowered my standards even a millimeter.

that is why i 'feel' the way i do. what i absolutely 'think'--at this moment i cannot say. fyi.

 

[flacaltenn]

i have been thinking outside of the 'box'--

what i feel 'should' have happened, etc.

each and every voter chose to exercise the option of 'not voting'.

surely there are protocols in place for such a circumstance, if not--then we should address that.

when neither major party or anyone else has proven to be worthy of confidence--the only truly moral decision in the best interest of the nation is to 'go back to drawing board'. jmo.

your thoughts?

shrug---perfectionism---better to have it--tried life both ways. worse when i lowered my standards even a millimeter.

that is why i 'feel' the way i do. what i absolutely 'think'--at this moment i cannot say. fyi.

We constantly reward the team that screws up less. Not very good for excellence in govt or trying to keep America relevent in the world.

All I can say is work for 3rd party ballot access. Not to WIN -- but to give folks choices. And to give places that DECENT politicians can go to break free of the totalitarian control that their OWN PARTY leadership exert on them..

 

[wavingrl]

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'The government is the only thing we all belong to <He should have said --'to which we all belong'. whatever. Joe Biden. whatever. He is the VP--president of vice?>

The Leader said: 'You didn't build it...'

Today's post --NYPost, iirc--the picture is worth thousands of words. Making a face with a young gymnast. Not prudent to allow such a picture to circulate through cyberspace, jmo.

White House denies editing talking points on Benghazi attack, contradicting Petraeus - NYPOST.com

What is he doing, I truly wonder. 'Benefit of the doubt'--I gave him that, 4 years. I have run out of patience with many.

Bill Clinton---Impeachment hearings were initiated and somehow he escaped unscathed. Do I have respect for him? No, not really. If it is fine with others to be led by such a person --it is not fine with me.

What I think of the Scandalous Love Pentagon---it all falls on the shoulders of the POTUS./gavel

'Go after me'/not Susan Rice.

Yes, we should have already started impeachment proceedings. We can wait a bit--start the engine after inauguration. Not much longer than that.

POTUS is basically a good man, jmo--respected and loved by his family and many others.

It seems that he has a streak of immaturity.

The sort of person I would prefer to be taking a call from the red phone would be more like Harry Truman. I am afraid that sort of decision may have to be made. What will he be doing when that call comes. Bush was in a classroom during a reading lesson.

How he was mocked and reviled.

None of us may be around to express any opinions about this POTUS.

How I feel about those who 'worship' him--also somewhat immature or shortsighted. Unable to see the big picture. The People got what they wanted and now we will all have to 'pay'.

Likely to be 'H' to pay?

 

[P F Tinmore]

i have been thinking outside of the 'box'--

what i feel 'should' have happened, etc.

each and every voter chose to exercise the option of 'not voting'.

surely there are protocols in place for such a circumstance, if not--then we should address that.

when neither major party or anyone else has proven to be worthy of confidence--the only truly moral decision in the best interest of the nation is to 'go back to drawing board'. jmo.

your thoughts?

shrug---perfectionism---better to have it--tried life both ways. worse when i lowered my standards even a millimeter.

that is why i 'feel' the way i do. what i absolutely 'think'--at this moment i cannot say. fyi.

We constantly reward the team that screws up less. Not very good for excellence in govt or trying to keep America relevent in the world.

All I can say is work for 3rd party ballot access. Not to WIN -- but to give folks choices. And to give places that DECENT politicians can go to break free of the totalitarian control that their OWN PARTY leadership exert on them..

Even if they don't win, a vote for a third party counts as a "none of the above" vote.

That is much better than not being counted at all.

 

[wavingrl]

i that is why i 'feel' the way i do. what i absolutely 'think'--at this moment i cannot say. fyi.

We constantly reward the team that screws up less. Not very good for excellence in govt or trying to keep America relevent in the world.

All I can say is work for 3rd party ballot access. Not to WIN -- but to give folks choices. And to give places that DECENT politicians can go to break free of the totalitarian control that their OWN PARTY leadership exert on them..

Even if they don't win, a vote for a third party counts as a "none of the above" vote.

That is much better than not being counted at all.

eh--Ann Coulter said, 'If you are too stupid to understand the issues, don't vote.' and a few other similar remarks.

if she isn't one of the meanest WASP's ever to live. I don't know how she has gotten so far.

'So Far'---not very far at all, jmo.

I will vote 'for' a candidate but refuse to only vote 'against' another candidate.

Oh, what a mess is going to develop--I am certain of that---if little else.

???Raise the age for those who wish to run for POTUS to 60/65? Even then chronological age doesn't guarantee wisdom and maturity.

Who knows what we should do?

 

[wavingrl]

testing. changed avatar.

 

[flacaltenn]

We constantly reward the team that screws up less. Not very good for excellence in govt or trying to keep America relevent in the world.

All I can say is work for 3rd party ballot access. Not to WIN -- but to give folks choices. And to give places that DECENT politicians can go to break free of the totalitarian control that their OWN PARTY leadership exert on them..

Even if they don't win, a vote for a third party counts as a "none of the above" vote.

That is much better than not being counted at all.

eh--Ann Coulter said, 'If you are too stupid to understand the issues, don't vote.' and a few other similar remarks.

if she isn't one of the meanest WASP's ever to live. I don't know how she has gotten so far.

'So Far'---not very far at all, jmo.

I will vote 'for' a candidate but refuse to only vote 'against' another candidate.

Oh, what a mess is going to develop--I am certain of that---if little else.

???Raise the age for those who wish to run for POTUS to 60/65? Even then chronological age doesn't guarantee wisdom and maturity.

Who knows what we should do?

Ann Coulter IS a mean WASP. But she's also right about the dangers that lurk in a Progressive Left movement that snipes at people of faith, divides the electorate by age, wealth, race and sex and promotes policies that destroy economic choice and freedom.

Sometimes --- you actually have to DEFEAT parties that are focused on extending power over your life..

PS -- the new avatar is fine. Nice and calming.. Great for the "clean forum".. You might want to have a "meaner" avi in the wings once you get rolled a couple times on the board..

 

[wavingrl]

Ann Coulter IS a mean WASP. But she's also right about the dangers that lurk in a Progressive Left movement that snipes at people of faith, divides the electorate by age, wealth, race and sex and promotes policies that destroy economic choice and freedom.

Sometimes --- you actually have to DEFEAT parties that are focused on extending power over your life..

PS -- the new avatar is fine. Nice and calming.. Great for the "clean forum".. You might want to have a "meaner" avi in the wings once you get rolled a couple times on the board..

'they' Hounds from 'H' are already after me. A 'foxhunt'. 4 people on Ignore. simple to add more. I don't intend to deal with 'Foolishness' of any kind.

what I really think of message boards--'vomitoriums', they had them during the days of the Roman Empire, iirc. Still need them--vomit all the 's' out---clean out your mind. Delete those files so that the processor can perform quickly and efficiently. That is what I will do.

Both parties wanted to extend more control than is acceptable to me.

'LA'--Progressive Left. mmmhmmm--if they completely had their way we would already be in worse shape than Greece and emerging nations in Africa. I am certain of that.

Even if Ann Coulter hadn't made biting, stinging remarks--I knew I didn't know what was being said about plans to address the issues. 'Fascism/Socialism' seemed likely from the Left. From the Right--who could say--a return to the past--50's or all the way back to the time of Pilgrims?

Not a 'Purple' candidate to be found. Hopefully, a 'few' people began working on that for 2016 a few weeks ago. Search high and low and far and wide and find Someone with wisdom and maturity. I don't feel that we have that at present. I do believe that is what is needed.

 

[wavingrl]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Lk0DZDaL8]Battle of New Orleans-Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - YouTube[/ame]

 

[flacaltenn]

Ann Coulter IS a mean WASP. But she's also right about the dangers that lurk in a Progressive Left movement that snipes at people of faith, divides the electorate by age, wealth, race and sex and promotes policies that destroy economic choice and freedom.

Sometimes --- you actually have to DEFEAT parties that are focused on extending power over your life..

PS -- the new avatar is fine. Nice and calming.. Great for the "clean forum".. You might want to have a "meaner" avi in the wings once you get rolled a couple times on the board..

'they' Hounds from 'H' are already after me. A 'foxhunt'. 4 people on Ignore. simple to add more. I don't intend to deal with 'Foolishness' of any kind.

what I really think of message boards--'vomitoriums', they had them during the days of the Roman Empire, iirc. Still need them--vomit all the 's' out---clean out your mind. Delete those files so that the processor can perform quickly and efficiently. That is what I will do.

Both parties wanted to extend more control than is acceptable to me.

'LA'--Progressive Left. mmmhmmm--if they completely had their way we would already be in worse shape than Greece and emerging nations in Africa. I am certain of that.

Even if Ann Coulter hadn't made biting, stinging remarks--I knew I didn't know what was being said about plans to address the issues. 'Fascism/Socialism' seemed likely from the Left. From the Right--who could say--a return to the past--50's or all the way back to the time of Pilgrims?

Not a 'Purple' candidate to be found. Hopefully, a 'few' people began working on that for 2016 a few weeks ago. Search high and low and far and wide and find Someone with wisdom and maturity. I don't feel that we have that at present. I do believe that is what is needed.

Funny that you should lead to the "ignore" button. With nearly 5000 posts on USMB I've got just ONE poster on that list. One that isn't even around anymore. (I don't think). I want to SEE the full spectrum of debate. Even the theatre of the absurd..

Actually, the modern day vomitorium is FaceBook. It's hit and run. It's bus-side advertising for your causes. Message Boards are about learning and validating your philosophical spine. The best conversations I've had -- have been with self-aware Socialists and Skinheads. It's the squishy "middle" purple people that are gumming up the works. (No offense, I hardly know you).

It's hard to find a compromise on "stealing from Social Security revenues" or giving GE tax money for building energy efficient dishwashers, or bombing 2 countries next week. Let's just bomb ONE --- OK??

There IS a right and wrong way to guide this country out of economic disaster. I don't have time to be purple. This country's about to blow...

 

[wavingrl]

Funny that you should lead to the "ignore" button. With nearly 5000 posts on USMB I've got just ONE poster on that list. One that isn't even around anymore. (I don't think). I want to SEE the full spectrum of debate. Even the theatre of the absurd..

Actually, the modern day vomitorium is FaceBook. It's hit and run. It's bus-side advertising for your causes. Message Boards are about learning and validating your philosophical spine. The best conversations I've had -- have been with self-aware Socialists and Skinheads. It's the squishy "middle" purple people that are gumming up the works. (No offense, I hardly know you).

It's hard to find a compromise on "stealing from Social Security revenues" or giving GE tax money for building energy efficient dishwashers, or bombing 2 countries next week. Let's just bomb ONE --- OK??

There IS a right and wrong way to guide this country out of economic disaster. I don't have time to be purple. This country's about to blow...

High Five--You are a Good Man, Charlie Brown.

You seem to know much more than I do about many things, including economics.

All that can said for me--'I tried, very hard to understand the issues and what was being proposed. I knew I didn't make it to rational thought this year and should begin immediately to prepare for 2016. So I googled Thomas Sowell, economist, and found a link to this forum. the stumbling block---Race and gender related issues.

I am a Boomer Caucasian woman from the Red state of GA. Actually, I live on the blue island of Atlanta in the Red Sea of GA. Blue and Red make Purple?

The struggle for equality --race and gender did get intense here at times. I am just a bit defensive, still. Did I, do I support KKK? No, never have and never will. The generalizations that seem to be made about people from GA---you must quickly lock and load and deal with any potential 'foolishness'. fyi.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39TUCMPmVVM]Josh Groban - Bells Of New York City [Official Lyric Videos] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[emilynghiem]

i have been thinking outside of the 'box'--

what i feel 'should' have happened, etc.

each and every voter chose to exercise the option of 'not voting'.

surely there are protocols in place for such a circumstance, if not--then we should address that.

when neither major party or anyone else has proven to be worthy of confidence--the only truly moral decision in the best interest of the nation is to 'go back to drawing board'. jmo.

your thoughts?

shrug---perfectionism---better to have it--tried life both ways. worse when i lowered my standards even a millimeter.

that is why i 'feel' the way i do. what i absolutely 'think'--at this moment i cannot say. fyi.

To check the abuse of the system, such as forcing all taxpayers to fund the programs pushed by one party to get votes, I hope to see people and states demand the right to direct their taxes or ACA penalties to their local programs per state or per party.

So that way, people who support a certain party pay for their own programs, and cannot manipulate elections or votes based on this assumption that all people are going to pay for it. If it's a biased or questionable program, not proven yet, then only supporters are expected to fund it; and everyone else can wait until it's proven to work, so elections do not depend on "guessing" if it works or fails.

Think of it this way:
If political parties were treated as religious affiliations,
we would never expect people to pay for religious programs or policies under a different
church; but would give each group equal freedom to fund their own policies under their own leaders and administration.

I envision capping the federal income taxes paid as before at 10%, and then give
people/states the option of counting anything above that as a LOAN. Where people can direct that portion of their taxes through the Party of their chioce, and fund whatever reforms or programs they believe in.

I would REWARD citizens for taking back responsibility for local programs and removing this burden from the federal govt.
So REWARD people for "trickling down" their extra loans to govt by investing in localized solutions, instead of complaining
"trickle down" doesn't work and abusing that fear to push voters to depend on govt to regulate resources for us.

I would also delegate certain issues or functions to the respective parties, such as allocating the military budget and Vet services to the GOP to refinance and collecting any misspent taxes on improper war contracts to pay back the taxpayers and invest in revamping the VA and vet housing/health care. And give the Democrats the duty of resolving this whole issue of funding the health care/social services VOLUNTARILY by party members who AGREE to subsidize that, and not impose on people who don't. And give the Greens responsibility for the environmental restoration and corrections, including restitution for corporate destruction or pollution at taxpayers' expense, and converting sweatshops into schools/coops for fair trade. If each party focused on the issues they have researched and developed solutions in, then we wouldn't waste time or resources fighting for one group to govern all the areas.

We could vote with our money which party and which issues we want to finance while the party leaders and members organize reforms and how to correct the causes of waste and abuse, including plans to pay back the debts that the govt ran up and charged to the public.

I believe this can be done by Party. And if there is an imbalane of too much or too little resources in certain areas, the Parties can lend money to each other to fix the problems until the budget shrinks down to what we can sustain, moving most of the responsibility to local states and reducing the federal govt to just the minimal it is supposed to be in charge of, mainly national security and international relations, but not all this social programming that is best handled per state so the people have more direct representation and control of funds.

 

[wavingrl]

O'Neill Outside WORDS OF WISDOM


WomanWilliams'

"Words of Wisdom"
"Quoting one is plagiarism... quoting many is research"
This, my philosophy, as I have done "Words of Wisdom" for the past 15 years. The history of "Words of Wisdom" started this way. O'Neill was traveling during the week. Back then he was doing "The Great Outdoors Show" (now "O'Neill Outside"). I would go along, read the paper or put on my makeup, just so I'd be on the same sleep schedule as O'Neill. Before long, I was answering the phone. Then I got up the nerve to open the microphone on occasion to dispense some knowledge to O'Neill.

 

[wavingrl]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB7M4RNi024]We Gather Together Hymn (with lyrics) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[wavingrl]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiHGxrUrAdk]Shenandoah - Sir James Galway - YouTube[/ame]

 

[wavingrl]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ_FZsMSaVs&feature=fvwrel]James Galway - The Lament For the Wild Geese - YouTube[/ame]

 

[cyberella]

There are massive reports of criminal activity
(not mischief, not shenanigans- criminal activity) going on all over the U.S during the presidential election.
Reports of machines changing votes from Romney to Obama, eyewitness reports of Republican poll watchers who observed busloads of non-English speaking Somalians in Ohio being instructed to vote Obama- the list is endless.
Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012

Romney lost because of this, not any other reason.
Nobody could have won against the fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama Machine.




The evidence is overwhelming!

Obama Stole the Election
Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012
OBAMA STOLE THE ELECTION - Newt Gingrich 360
Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99 Percent Of The Vote In More Than 100 Ohio Precincts
Ample evidence that Obama stole the 2012 election
Stolen Election? Evidence Is Mounting Everything Points To Stolen Votes | Election 2012
Adding up the evidence
Allen West, Mitt Romney and the Massive Voter Fraud Machine
How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures
Voter Fraud | Fox News Insider
Voter fraud is no myth -- it's more common than you think - Conservative News
Was the 2012 Election Stolen « The Will County News
Obama Stole Election? | Fox News Video
Also share Political and religious censorship by Facebook and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.
Bro. Winter Christian Bible teacher Jesus Name Apostolic Holiness Church - Oneness Pentecostal
Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama and his religion


What you can do:
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Visit the site:
Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012
Most of 'Obama Voter Fraud' activity is moving to FaceBook.
'Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers
http://www.facebook.com/#!/ObamaVoterFraudVolunteers


'Obama Voter Fraud' on FaceBook-
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Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
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Another petition, The 'We The People' petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p


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