Election Reforms I'd Like To See

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    They wouldn't. It would have to be an established party....or, if a new party would. be created...they would have to meet certain criteria to become an established party. I mean, I just couldn't say...I'm the founding member of the Steelplate Party....now gimme my money! If I wanted to create a "Steelplate Party", I would have to have the support....via membership....of a predetermined percentage of the population.....the thing would be to set the criteria so that Joe Schmoe can't start a new party just to grab a slice of that money, but loose enough to allow for some natural growth.

    I would say, to start out....You would have Dems, GOP, Libertarian, Tea Party, and Democratic Socialists. That would create a good spectrum from far right to pretty far left. with the original Democratic and Republican Parties holding down the middle....I mean, you could even throw the Commies in there to go way left....But, I'd prefer not to. I despise Communism....and since this is all hypothetical....I choose not to include them....plus, we could implement the criteria in such a way that real extreme groups can't weasel their way in.

    It would take a Constitutional Amendment for any of this to happen....so for all intents and purposes, it won't. But if the idea ever got legs, that stuff would have to be figured out by people with more knowledge and understanding of law and procedure than me.....I think that the general population should have some input....but let's face it....all of here are "shade tree" policy makers.
     
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    how? Incumbents are still subject to the will of the people. I don't know why you feel so powerless when it comes to our elected officials. Every Candidate would have equal resources, there would be strict and independent oversight to make sure no one manipulates(cheats). The only advantage incumbents would have is experience....and depending on their voting record, it may not be an advantage at all.
     
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    Wrong, incumbents have all the resources of their office, including the access to free printing and mailing services to send out fliers touting all the great things they have done since the last election, a paid staff to maintain their website, answer phones, and respond to media questions, and various other advantages inherent to already being in power. You want to give them the ability to determine which candidates are legitimate?

    Are you out of your mind?
     
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    Surely you can see the contradiction there. You despise the commies, but there are plenty of people who feel the same about Libertarians, or Democratic Socialists. Hell, I feel that way about the Democrats and Republicans. Can we keep them out of the running as well? And who's to say what's extreme? Maybe "extreme" is exactly what we need, or exactly what the people want. In that case, do we want an election board blocking it?

    That's fair to say. But we can at least consider which of our ideas make sense and which don't. I think it's worthwhile to work through the practical details of how our proposals might be implemented.
     
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    make those expenses accountable to their alloted funds....not so difficult.
     
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    You want to make the routine expenses of running an office part of the campaign expenses? Good luck with that.
     
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    How about not in the Debate, but asking the Questions? :)
     
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    good Idea..... Let's set a scenario where the public demanded publicly funded elections and the USMB is Congress. We have to brainstorm a way to implement it by submitting ideas, debate the pros and cons of each idea, and vote on each item to be included into the overall plan.

    Sound interesting? we could start a new thread if enough of us want to do it. In fact, maybe if enough of us find it enjoyable and informative, we could tackle some other hot button issues in this manner.
     
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    Perhaps campaigning shouldn't be a routine expense of running an office
     
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    This must be the ‘if the Citizens United decision never came down’ thread.

    We have term limits, they’re called elections.
     

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