Eisenhower Republican?

If we are ever to solve our mounting traffic problem, the whole interstate system must be authorized as one project, to be completed approximately within the specified time. Only in this way can industry efficiently gear itself to the job ahead. Only in this way can the required planning and engineering be accomplished without the confusion and waste unavoidable in a piecemeal approach. Furthermore, as I pointed out last year, the pressing nature of this problem must not lead us to solutions outside the bounds of sound fiscal management. As in the case of other pressing problems, there must be an adequate plan of financing. To continue the drastically needed improvement in other national highway systems, I recommend the continuation of the Federal Aid Highway Program
Dwight Eisenhower, "State of the Union, 1956"

You know that he also wanted a balanced budget. I suppose that this sort of President is long gone in our past. From reading some of the postings, I am reminded how much both parties have changed over the years and am quite sure that Eisenhower and JFK would not recognize their respective parties today.

I think you are wrong. Certainly the Republican Party has gone completely over the edge. Corporations are people, let him die and applauding executions. When you point out these monstrous positions, the current Republican party says you must be a socialist or communist. This Republican party is 90% white.

Democrats are everyone else. Since the Democratic Party is fighting for 100% of the American people and the Republican Party is fighting for the wealthy 1% and corporations, many Americans make the mistake that because they are fighting, they must be equally to blame and therefore "the same". I believe JFK would be proud of the Democrats and Eisenhower would be a Democrat, just like his grand daughter and grand son.

You are a fine example of everything that is wrong with our political system. Morons who bullshit instead of using honest dialogue and understanding. A couple of members of an audience is not 'the Republican Party'. Your obsession with bullshit statistics that have already been proven to be bullshit is laughably pathetic.

And then you have the audacity to claim 'everyone else' as Democrats. How the hell can anyone take you seriously?
 
The change in the Democratic Party that caused many Southern Democrats to leave it, and which occurred as stated in the 1960s, is simply that it stopped pandering to racists. Southern white racists had found a home in the party since its inception, but after the '60s, no more. Any other reasons advanced are simply bogus.

That's true of white racists. The Democrats have a problem with racists... but not many of them are white. But racism is racism is racism. Whatever color their skin. So, you are wrong. They still pander to racists. In fact, it is their lifeblood.

On a side note, your Avatar Artist is pretty amazing in my opinion. LOL You think she might take pity on me and make me one if I asked nice ?

I actually love yours... but I think you should sweet talk her into making you something funky too. I'm loving my new look! It's very me!
 
That's true of white racists. The Democrats have a problem with racists... but not many of them are white. But racism is racism is racism. Whatever color their skin. So, you are wrong. They still pander to racists. In fact, it is their lifeblood.

On a side note, your Avatar Artist is pretty amazing in my opinion. LOL You think she might take pity on me and make me one if I asked nice ?

I actually love yours... but I think you should sweet talk her into making you something funky too. I'm loving my new look! It's very me!

I have no idea how she comes up with those things , but she just makes some of the most beautiful work. I asked her to draw me an aircraft for my office here in the house and now have it in a frame. I sort of like the one she made me, but if I get a new one I won't complain. lol
 
"Republicans haven't changed much but how far left have democrats drifted since JFK? "Ask not what your country can do for you"? Yeah right.
 
That's true of white racists. The Democrats have a problem with racists... but not many of them are white. But racism is racism is racism. Whatever color their skin. So, you are wrong. They still pander to racists. In fact, it is their lifeblood.

Since any black racists tend to lose whatever support within the Democratic Party they ever had upon expressing their racism, the claim that the party "panders" to them is without support.
 
On its Centennial, the Republican Party again calls to the minds of all Americans the great truth first spoken by Abraham Lincoln: "The legitimate object of Government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done but cannot do at all, or cannot so well do, for themselves in their separate and individual capacities. But in all that people can individually do as well for themselves, Government ought not to interfere."

The first problem with your post is that the above isn't true.

Lincoln was a dictator and a tyrant. I would hardly hold him up as an authority on good government.

Was Thomas Jefferson a dictator too?

"The equal rights of man, and the happiness of every individual, are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of government. Modern times have the signal advantage, too, of having discovered the only device by which these rights can be secured, to wit: government by the people, acting not in person, but by representatives chosen by themselves, that is to say, by every man of ripe years and sane mind, who contributes either by his purse or person to the support of his country." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:482

"I willingly acquiesce in the institutions of my country, perfect or imperfect, and think it a duty to leave their modifications to those who are to live under them and are to participate of the good or evil they may produce. The present generation has the same right of self-government which the past one has exercised for itself." --Thomas Jefferson to John Hampden Pleasants, 1824. ME 16:29

"What is true of every member of the society, individually, is true of them all collectively; since the rights of the whole can be no more than the sum of the rights of the individuals." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:455, Papers 15:393

"To unequal privileges among members of the same society the spirit of our nation is, with one accord, adverse." --Thomas Jefferson to Hugh White, 1801. ME 10:258

"The most sacred of the duties of a government [is] to do equal and impartial justice to all its citizens." --Thomas Jefferson: Note in Destutt de Tracy, "Political Economy," 1816. ME 14:465
 
That's true of white racists. The Democrats have a problem with racists... but not many of them are white. But racism is racism is racism. Whatever color their skin. So, you are wrong. They still pander to racists. In fact, it is their lifeblood.

Since any black racists tend to lose whatever support within the Democratic Party they ever had upon expressing their racism, the claim that the party "panders" to them is without support.

Since most Democrats seem unable to actually recognize any racism other than right wing racism, you will have to excuse me for calling that 'crap'.
 
That's true of white racists. The Democrats have a problem with racists... but not many of them are white. But racism is racism is racism. Whatever color their skin. So, you are wrong. They still pander to racists. In fact, it is their lifeblood.

Since any black racists tend to lose whatever support within the Democratic Party they ever had upon expressing their racism, the claim that the party "panders" to them is without support.

Since most Democrats seem unable to actually recognize any racism other than right wing racism, you will have to excuse me for calling that 'crap'.



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If a Democrat calls a black person racial names, it's because the black person deserves it.

I've heard that over and over.
 
No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.
~ Nelson Mandela
- Long Walk to Freedom (1995)
 
If we are ever to solve our mounting traffic problem, the whole interstate system must be authorized as one project, to be completed approximately within the specified time. Only in this way can industry efficiently gear itself to the job ahead. Only in this way can the required planning and engineering be accomplished without the confusion and waste unavoidable in a piecemeal approach. Furthermore, as I pointed out last year, the pressing nature of this problem must not lead us to solutions outside the bounds of sound fiscal management. As in the case of other pressing problems, there must be an adequate plan of financing. To continue the drastically needed improvement in other national highway systems, I recommend the continuation of the Federal Aid Highway Program
Dwight Eisenhower, "State of the Union, 1956"

You know that he also wanted a balanced budget. I suppose that this sort of President is long gone in our past. From reading some of the postings, I am reminded how much both parties have changed over the years and am quite sure that Eisenhower and JFK would not recognize their respective parties today.

I think you are wrong. Certainly the Republican Party has gone completely over the edge. Corporations are people, let him die and applauding executions. When you point out these monstrous positions, the current Republican party says you must be a socialist or communist. This Republican party is 90% white.

Democrats are everyone else. Since the Democratic Party is fighting for 100% of the American people and the Republican Party is fighting for the wealthy 1% and corporations, many Americans make the mistake that because they are fighting, they must be equally to blame and therefore "the same". I believe JFK would be proud of the Democrats and Eisenhower would be a Democrat, just like his grand daughter and grand son.

You are a fine example of everything that is wrong with our political system. Morons who bullshit instead of using honest dialogue and understanding. A couple of members of an audience is not 'the Republican Party'. Your obsession with bullshit statistics that have already been proven to be bullshit is laughably pathetic.

And then you have the audacity to claim 'everyone else' as Democrats. How the hell can anyone take you seriously?

Weird. The way wingnuts, such as yourself, constantly complain I'm wrong. Then show nothing to prove otherwise except to refer to "proof" that has never been posted. It's pathetic that you don't recognize your sad self as "pathetic". It really is.
 
If we are ever to solve our mounting traffic problem, the whole interstate system must be authorized as one project, to be completed approximately within the specified time. Only in this way can industry efficiently gear itself to the job ahead. Only in this way can the required planning and engineering be accomplished without the confusion and waste unavoidable in a piecemeal approach. Furthermore, as I pointed out last year, the pressing nature of this problem must not lead us to solutions outside the bounds of sound fiscal management. As in the case of other pressing problems, there must be an adequate plan of financing. To continue the drastically needed improvement in other national highway systems, I recommend the continuation of the Federal Aid Highway Program
Dwight Eisenhower, "State of the Union, 1956"

You know that he also wanted a balanced budget. I suppose that this sort of President is long gone in our past. From reading some of the postings, I am reminded how much both parties have changed over the years and am quite sure that Eisenhower and JFK would not recognize their respective parties today.

I think you are wrong. Certainly the Republican Party has gone completely over the edge. Corporations are people, let him die and applauding executions. When you point out these monstrous positions, the current Republican party says you must be a socialist or communist. This Republican party is 90% white.

Democrats are everyone else. Since the Democratic Party is fighting for 100% of the American people and the Republican Party is fighting for the wealthy 1% and corporations, many Americans make the mistake that because they are fighting, they must be equally to blame and therefore "the same". I believe JFK would be proud of the Democrats and Eisenhower would be a Democrat, just like his grand daughter and grand son.

My point here was simply to bring to light that from a historical standpoint , things such as corporations being considered as "persons" run contrary to this nations founding and original Republican principles. Further, am sure JFK would not be too pleased with the current state of things in this nation and of his party as well, which seems to be just as disconnected from the American people as the other side is. We used to believe in "big" things, in this nation, Kennedy , Eisenhower and so forth, from Apollo, to the Interstate Highway system, and we used to ask ourselves, how do get it done, rather than , theres no way we can do that!

Not sure why you think Democrats are "disconnected". Democrats want to invest in the American infrastructure. In education. They attempted to deal with the number one cause of bankruptcy, which is health care. They attempted to cover people that are currently not insured. They got Bin Laden as well as a host of other terrorists. History since Eisenhower shows the economy improves and the national debt shrinks every time a Democrat is president.

Everything Democrats haven't been able to do is because they have to fight both the problem and the Republicans. In fact, the majority of the problems were created by the Republicans. Shall we go through a 20 year list of Republican disasters? There are so many to choose from and so many that are huge, huge disasters.
 

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