Egypt: Obama Plays Hardball...Morsi Folds

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Obama Plays Hardball and Egypt’s Morsi Folds

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The attack on the US consulate in Benghazi happened because the Libyan government is still weak, rebuilding after its revolution against Muammar Qaddafi. But there was no doubt that the new government was a friend of the US ambassador who was killed, Chris Stevens, or that it would mobilize to deal with the cells of the Ansar al-Shariah extremists that launched the attack. Pro-America demonstrations regretting the attack on the consulate have been held all over Libya.

In an interview with Telemundo, President Barack Obama showed his annoyance with Morsi:

President Obama
“I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” the president said.

“I think that we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident,” Obama said.

“Certainly in this situation, what we’re going to expect is that they are responsive to our insistence that our embassy is protected, our personnel is protected”

Egypt is among about 14 countries designated at “major non-NATO allies” by US presidents. This status recognizes that they do joint military exercises with the US, and gives them special access to advanced US weaponry. However, some of them are not allies in the precise legal sense. That is, there is no obligation of mutual defense. A true ally, as with NATO states, is one that the allied country is pledged to defend from attack. Still, US officials typically have referred to Egypt as an ally, and the State Department made clear that it continues to do so.

So Obama was technically correct that Egypt is not an ally in the sense that Britain or even Turkey is. But unlike what some media outlets wrote, this statement was no gaffe. Rather, Obama was playing hardball with Morsi, trying to impress upon him that the status of ‘major non-NATO ally’ is not automatic now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in control. It will have to be re-earned, at least from Obama’s point of view. And the lack of response on the embassy attack is not consistent with ally status. Non-NATO ally status is bestowed by a stroke of the presidential pen, so Obama could take it away.

White House spokesman Jay Carney added on Thursday that “Obama spoke with President Mohamed Morsi, the first Islamist leader following an uprising which toppled Mubarak last year, on Wednesday and impressed upon him the need to protect US diplomats…”

Under Obama’s pressure, Morsi, in Brussels seeking European aid, finally explicitly condemned Tuesday’s attack on the US embassy in Egypt:

President Morsi
“we don’t accept, condone, or approve at all for there to be attacks on embassies, consulates or people, or killing in any way.”

“We want to cooperate with the entire world and we are cooperating now with the E.U. and the European people and with the American people and others and the U.S. administration to prevent such practices in the future. Also, we insist on the protection of persons, properties and embassies. The Egyptian people are very civilized and could not ever express their rejection of such practices with an attack on an embassy or person or consulate.”

Some of Morsi’s sudden willingness to say all this was fueled by Obama’s pressure. In addition, Morsi revealed some of his other motives:

President Morsi
“Muslims and Christians in Egypt are equal citizens and have the same rights… We are cautious about those principles and human values, also respecting visitors and respecting tourists… and respecting and protecting diplomatic delegations and private and public properties, and not attacking them.”

That is, somebody told Morsi he had to say something if he wanted to keep the tourist trade, much less the American alliance!

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"We've got this thing that so many military believe that Republican administrations are good for the military. That is rarely the case. And, we have to get a message through to every soldier, every family member, every friend of soldiers that the Republican party, the Republican dominated Congress has absolutely been the worst thing that's happened to the United States Army and the United States Marine Corps."
Major General Paul D. Eaton
 
Oh yeah, he is really really dumb turning down billions in aid money to make himself more powerful.....you're an idiot.

He is holding out his left hand for free money while holding a knife behind his back in his right hand.
 
The Muslim Brotherhood....terrorist organization that goes back further than Al Qai'da.

The current leader of AQ was a founding father of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The leader of Egypt is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

How fucking stupid are liberals.....
 
Morsi is putting money in his pocket and planning the next attack. If there is one thing Morsi knows, it's that obama will cling to anything that looks like it might help him keep his job.
 
Come to think about it, the leader of Egypt and leader of AQ are about the same age, from Egypt and might be friends......
 
What that sounds like to me is less that Morsi is concerned or upset over the attacks as he is the possible loss of millions and millions of dollars in aid. If Morsi is condemning the attacks public to keep the money coming in but telling his supporters in private that he does not that doesn't seem like so much of crumble as it does playing someone.
 
Obama Plays Hardball and Egypt’s Morsi Folds

SKYjI.jpg


The attack on the US consulate in Benghazi happened because the Libyan government is still weak, rebuilding after its revolution against Muammar Qaddafi. But there was no doubt that the new government was a friend of the US ambassador who was killed, Chris Stevens, or that it would mobilize to deal with the cells of the Ansar al-Shariah extremists that launched the attack. Pro-America demonstrations regretting the attack on the consulate have been held all over Libya.

In an interview with Telemundo, President Barack Obama showed his annoyance with Morsi:

President Obama
“I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” the president said.

“I think that we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident,” Obama said.

“Certainly in this situation, what we’re going to expect is that they are responsive to our insistence that our embassy is protected, our personnel is protected”

Egypt is among about 14 countries designated at “major non-NATO allies” by US presidents. This status recognizes that they do joint military exercises with the US, and gives them special access to advanced US weaponry. However, some of them are not allies in the precise legal sense. That is, there is no obligation of mutual defense. A true ally, as with NATO states, is one that the allied country is pledged to defend from attack. Still, US officials typically have referred to Egypt as an ally, and the State Department made clear that it continues to do so.

So Obama was technically correct that Egypt is not an ally in the sense that Britain or even Turkey is. But unlike what some media outlets wrote, this statement was no gaffe. Rather, Obama was playing hardball with Morsi, trying to impress upon him that the status of ‘major non-NATO ally’ is not automatic now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in control. It will have to be re-earned, at least from Obama’s point of view. And the lack of response on the embassy attack is not consistent with ally status. Non-NATO ally status is bestowed by a stroke of the presidential pen, so Obama could take it away.

White House spokesman Jay Carney added on Thursday that “Obama spoke with President Mohamed Morsi, the first Islamist leader following an uprising which toppled Mubarak last year, on Wednesday and impressed upon him the need to protect US diplomats…”

Under Obama’s pressure, Morsi, in Brussels seeking European aid, finally explicitly condemned Tuesday’s attack on the US embassy in Egypt:

President Morsi
“we don’t accept, condone, or approve at all for there to be attacks on embassies, consulates or people, or killing in any way.”

“We want to cooperate with the entire world and we are cooperating now with the E.U. and the European people and with the American people and others and the U.S. administration to prevent such practices in the future. Also, we insist on the protection of persons, properties and embassies. The Egyptian people are very civilized and could not ever express their rejection of such practices with an attack on an embassy or person or consulate.”

Some of Morsi’s sudden willingness to say all this was fueled by Obama’s pressure. In addition, Morsi revealed some of his other motives:

President Morsi
“Muslims and Christians in Egypt are equal citizens and have the same rights… We are cautious about those principles and human values, also respecting visitors and respecting tourists… and respecting and protecting diplomatic delegations and private and public properties, and not attacking them.”

That is, somebody told Morsi he had to say something if he wanted to keep the tourist trade, much less the American alliance!

more

"We've got this thing that so many military believe that Republican administrations are good for the military. That is rarely the case. And, we have to get a message through to every soldier, every family member, every friend of soldiers that the Republican party, the Republican dominated Congress has absolutely been the worst thing that's happened to the United States Army and the United States Marine Corps."
Major General Paul D. Eaton
Thats what you call playing hard ball????

Talk about pussified.....Damn...................
 
What that sounds like to me is less that Morsi is concerned or upset over the attacks as he is the possible loss of millions and millions of dollars in aid. If Morsi is condemning the attacks public to keep the money coming in but telling his supporters in private that he does not that doesn't seem like so much of crumble as it does playing someone.

It's the same strategy used so successfully by Arafat.
 
Yep....Arafat liked money from liberals so he could buy weapons for his terrorists then spend the rest on himself in Paris.

Oh, I'm sure it was really, really the fault of Reagan, Rumsfeld, Bush x2, etc.:eusa_whistle:

What that sounds like to me is less that Morsi is concerned or upset over the attacks as he is the possible loss of millions and millions of dollars in aid. If Morsi is condemning the attacks public to keep the money coming in but telling his supporters in private that he does not that doesn't seem like so much of crumble as it does playing someone.

It's the same strategy used so successfully by Arafat.
 
Wait a sec, is the OP saying playing hardball is a good idea? IF you listened to sources other than leftwing, republicans have been saying that for.........ever. You cant negotiate with these kinds of retards
 
Obama Plays Hardball and Egypt’s Morsi Folds

SKYjI.jpg


The attack on the US consulate in Benghazi happened because the Libyan government is still weak, rebuilding after its revolution against Muammar Qaddafi. But there was no doubt that the new government was a friend of the US ambassador who was killed, Chris Stevens, or that it would mobilize to deal with the cells of the Ansar al-Shariah extremists that launched the attack. Pro-America demonstrations regretting the attack on the consulate have been held all over Libya.

In an interview with Telemundo, President Barack Obama showed his annoyance with Morsi:

President Obama
“I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” the president said.

“I think that we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident,” Obama said.

“Certainly in this situation, what we’re going to expect is that they are responsive to our insistence that our embassy is protected, our personnel is protected”

Egypt is among about 14 countries designated at “major non-NATO allies” by US presidents. This status recognizes that they do joint military exercises with the US, and gives them special access to advanced US weaponry. However, some of them are not allies in the precise legal sense. That is, there is no obligation of mutual defense. A true ally, as with NATO states, is one that the allied country is pledged to defend from attack. Still, US officials typically have referred to Egypt as an ally, and the State Department made clear that it continues to do so.

So Obama was technically correct that Egypt is not an ally in the sense that Britain or even Turkey is. But unlike what some media outlets wrote, this statement was no gaffe. Rather, Obama was playing hardball with Morsi, trying to impress upon him that the status of ‘major non-NATO ally’ is not automatic now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in control. It will have to be re-earned, at least from Obama’s point of view. And the lack of response on the embassy attack is not consistent with ally status. Non-NATO ally status is bestowed by a stroke of the presidential pen, so Obama could take it away.

White House spokesman Jay Carney added on Thursday that “Obama spoke with President Mohamed Morsi, the first Islamist leader following an uprising which toppled Mubarak last year, on Wednesday and impressed upon him the need to protect US diplomats…”

Under Obama’s pressure, Morsi, in Brussels seeking European aid, finally explicitly condemned Tuesday’s attack on the US embassy in Egypt:

President Morsi


Some of Morsi’s sudden willingness to say all this was fueled by Obama’s pressure. In addition, Morsi revealed some of his other motives:

President Morsi
“Muslims and Christians in Egypt are equal citizens and have the same rights… We are cautious about those principles and human values, also respecting visitors and respecting tourists… and respecting and protecting diplomatic delegations and private and public properties, and not attacking them.”

That is, somebody told Morsi he had to say something if he wanted to keep the tourist trade, much less the American alliance!

more

"We've got this thing that so many military believe that Republican administrations are good for the military. That is rarely the case. And, we have to get a message through to every soldier, every family member, every friend of soldiers that the Republican party, the Republican dominated Congress has absolutely been the worst thing that's happened to the United States Army and the United States Marine Corps."
Major General Paul D. Eaton
Thats what you call playing hard ball????

Talk about pussified.....Damn...................


It takes a Muslim to forgive a Muslim.


PIPES: Obama: 'My Muslim faith' - Washington Times

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M]Obama: "My Muslim Faith" - YouTube[/ame]
 
The general is referencing the soon to be budget axe that the GOP led by Ryan will automatically cut several billions out of the budget for the military, if, no budget solution is negotiated before the end of the year.
 
Obamas budget supported the military but cut 3% from the budget last year. He supports slow reduction over the years to not throw us off a fiscal cliff like the GOP wants.
 

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