Efficient electric travel has been around for decades = street ready technology

[merrill]

Tree huggers are constantly seeking ways of keeping as many of our green backs as possible which in reality is very responsible and fiscal conservative.

 

[francoHFW]

Cars like the Leaf and the Volt are doing great and will be a common sight in a year or two, as the quick charge stations become more common.Thanks Obamahhh and Dems.

 

[skookerasbil]

Cars like the Leaf and the Volt are doing great and will be a common sight in a year or two, as the quick charge stations become more common.Thanks Obamahhh and Dems.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/8450-chevy-volt-sales-plummet-as-the-electric-car-market-slumps

 

[westwall]

How is most of the electricity to charge those electric unicorns generated, Mr. Wizard?

The point being = driving cleaner is better than driving a polluting vehicle constantly.

Vehicles are among the most polluting sources. Eliminating vehicle exhaust is big and I mean big. And I save plenty of GREEN bucks in the process.

Have no fear these cleaner critters are on the way:

Wind
How Wind Energy Works | Union of Concerned Scientists

Solar
How Solar Energy Works | Union of Concerned Scientists

Bio Mass
How Biomass Energy Works | Union of Concerned Scientists

Geo Thermal
How Geothermal Energy Works | Union of Concerned Scientists

Hydro Power
How Hydrokinetic Energy Works | Union of Concerned Scientists

Yeah genius we know how they work. We also know that environuts won't let any hydroelectric get built. Wind is a joke. It costs more then it produces and the generators last for all of 20 years and then have to be replaced.

Geothermal has definite possiblities but only in certain areas and there are significant difficulties with the corrosive nature of the geothermal water. It eats stainless steel piping in months in some cases.

Bio mass is usable only in small localised areas.

Solar is a non starter. Do you know why the main solar producing plants are in third world countries? I didn't think so...they are there because they are toxic waste nightmares. Then after 20 years teh solar panels themselves are worn out and they too are little toxic horrors. I suggest you do a little research on the issue someday.

 

[MikeK]

Actually these carts are seen a lot in wealthy gated communities to run errands and such. And to get to the swimming pool. My sister in law has several in her neighborhood. They are too much fun.

Exactly.

But exposing one of these little golf carts to ordinary traffic would be suicidal. Imagine being broadsided by an SUV in one of them. In fact, even being rear-ended by a Volkswagen Beetle could be fatal.

 

[westwall]

Tree huggers are constantly seeking ways of keeping as many of our green backs as possible which in reality is very responsible and fiscal conservative.

Laughable. Tree huggers are a bunch of reactionary dolts who havn't a clue about science and its application to the real world. The last major environmental disaster to be visited in the US was by your envirowhackos mandating MTBE be used in gasoline in CA. We told them the crap was bad and they ignored us. Billions in environmental damage has been caused and at least 1500 water wells are poisoned so bad they won't be usable for at least 1,000 years.

And you have the gall to lecture us you little puppy. Grow up and learn something.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Not only low income families not by a long shot. Yes it would a smart move for low income families.

the YOU buy them....
Wait....you're anti capitalist. You would expect these shit boxes to come gift wrapped from the Obama regime.

I love making money = you have no idea what you are talking about and you listen way too much to FOX News, brother Beck and his sister Rush.

Isn't it great that this efficient electric travel has been around for decades = street ready technology which means no reinventing the wheel.

I love making money
You will be shunned by the left moon bat club for that.

 

[westwall]

Cars like the Leaf and the Volt are doing great and will be a common sight in a year or two, as the quick charge stations become more common.Thanks Obamahhh and Dems.

Are you insane?

Year-to-date sales of the Leaf total 4,806 units in the U.S., compared to 2,870 Chevy Volts.

Electric Superiority: Nissan Leaf sales hit 931, Chevy Volt at 125 in July

For a comparison let's actually look at popular cars shall we?

Let's see, number one is the Ford F series pickup truck and looky here they sold a measly 68,278....in DECEMBER! With 584,917 sold for the year.

Who was second you ask? well that would be the Chevy Silverado Pickup, and they sold a measly 415,130 for the year.

The WORST selling of the top 20 was the Toyota Rav 4 and they sold a paltrey 132,237 for the year.

So the WOrst of teh top 20 sellers sold twice as many trucks in one month as both EV's sold all damned year.

You are a clown.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This is practical in town travel where a ton of pollution is generated. In town travel is the least efficient and most polluting. Just keep it plugged in and get years and years of service.


Villager 2 LSV

The street-legal Villager 2 Low-Speed Vehicle operates quietly and is perfect for driving to your neighborhood golf course, picking up take out at your favorite restaurant or zipping to the gym for a workout. Choose the optional cargo box and you’ll have enough room to carry a week’s worth of groceries or to haul your dog to the park for a walk.

Street-Legal Low Speed Vehicles - Club Car

Electric golf carts, who'da thunk.

 

[merrill]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

The gas powered ones are a lot more fun, trust me.

 

[Charles_Main]

This is practical in town travel where a ton of pollution is generated. In town travel is the least efficient and most polluting. Just keep it plugged in and get years and years of service.


Villager 2 LSV

The street-legal Villager 2 Low-Speed Vehicle operates quietly and is perfect for driving to your neighborhood golf course, picking up take out at your favorite restaurant or zipping to the gym for a workout. Choose the optional cargo box and you’ll have enough room to carry a week’s worth of groceries or to haul your dog to the park for a walk.

Street-Legal Low Speed Vehicles - Club Car

I am not sure what good pushing toward Heavy reliance on Electricity does when fully 80% of our electricity comes from Coal and Oil Fired Power plants. With what seems no willingness to build new Nuke or Hydro Plants, and the Current Limited Ability of Solar and Wind power, our reliance on Coal and Oil to Produce Electricity is not going to change soon. Until then going green by Going electric, Is akin to trading a Gas Burner, for a Coal and oil Burner.

 

[merrill]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

The gas powered ones are a lot more fun, trust me.

I will not own one of them. I like peace and quiet.

 

[Oddball]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

Try driving one from Denver to Kansas City on the same day.

 

[Oddball]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

I'll bet they're a real party to try to drive around with 6" of snow on the road.

 

[francoHFW]

#34-That's for the Volt, obviously. And it's selling fine more recently, dittoheads. Jeebus what azzhole citizens Pubs and dupes are....brainwashed bastids- hoping for your recovery, cold war dinosaurs...

Below is a full, detailed review for the 2011 Chevrolet Volt written by the automotive experts at New Car Test Drive. A full evaluation of the driving experience, equipment and pricing are included from journalists with a wealth of experience.
Chevrolet Volt: Introduction
By JIM MCCRAW

General Motors has been working for nearly four years to bring the Volt electric sedan to market, and, based on what we've experienced, the final result is a shockingly good, technologically brilliant electrically powered sedan. The Volt seats four.

The Chevrolet Volt uses a enormous 420-pound, T-shaped lithium-ion battery, mounted right in the center of the car, under the center console and rear seat, to power the car through a large 149-horsepower, 368 foot-pound AC-current electric motor with a planetary transmission and transaxle driving the front wheels. Chevrolet says a fully charged battery will run the car on electricity alone for nearly 47 miles.

The battery, co-developed with Korea's LG Chemical, a leader in this technology, uses 288 slim cells divided into four 72-cell packs. The battery has its own separate heating and cooling systems to allow it to operate efficiently in extremes of temperature. The battery can be fully charged on normal house current in 10-12 hours, said Chevrolet, and with a 240-volt charging station, in about four hours. Since electric power rates vary wildly across the country, Chevrolet estimated than an overnight charge will cost $1.00 to $1.50 per day, far less than the several gallons of gasoline it would take most commuters to get to work and back. Chevrolet will charge $490 for the fast-charging station, plus whatever your local power utility will charge for installation, and some power companies are prepared to offer rebates on installations to promote the idea. The first 4,400 Chevrolet Volt buyers will get the charging station free.

When impending battery depletion is sensed by the electronic control system that links the battery, motor, clutches, transaxle, and starter/generator together, the 1.4-liter gasoline engine starts, and converts the starter into a 55-kilowatt generator, which then supplies electrical power to the battery and the motor so that the journey can continue.

Travel can continue until the 9.3-gallon fuel tank runs out of fuel, a distance that Chevrolet calculates to be about 350 miles, or 47 miles on the battery and 310 miles using gasoline to charge the battery. The battery is never truly depleted, and operates continuously between 50 and 65 percent of its capacity, but the system is geared toward preserving the battery's life and condition under extremes of heat, cold and continuous duty.

The Volt's 1.4-liter double-overhead-cam, four-valve, fuel injected gasoline engine is the same engine used in the Chevrolet Cruze, without the turbocharger, and is rated at 84 horsepower at 4800 rpm. Because there is the possibility of long periods of gasoline storage, the Volt is built with a sealed, pressurized fuel system, and Chevrolet has specified that only premium unleaded fuel be used because it can stand up to long periods of storage without deterioration. There is a warning system that tells the driver to go out for a drive to burn off any condensation that has reached the fuel.

Although the Volt could be characterized as a series hybrid by some definitions, Chevrolet insists the Volt is an extended-range electric vehicle with onboard generation, and that the gasoline engine, because it adds power through the starter/generator, doesn't ever drive the front tires directly.

The battery can drive the Volt in any of three modes, Normal, Sport and Mountain, in either Drive or Low ranges in the planetary transmission, offering a great deal of situational flexibility. Volt engineers recommend using the Low range any time the car is driving in bumper-to-bumper or other heavy traffic, so that the brakes can regenerate additional electricity.

If the $41,000 price tag seems high, remember the amount of new technology and expensive parts in this car, and be reminded that there is a $7500 federal tax rebate available, which drops the price down to $33,500. There is also a federal rebate of $2000 on a home charging unit. And several states offer refunds or rebates ranging from $2000 to $5000. Chevrolet offers a lease price on a Volt of $350 a month, with a 36,000-mile limit and a $2500 down payment. While the entire vehicle carries a normal GM warranty (three years, 36,000 miles), the battery itself carries an eight-year, 100,000-mile warranty.
Chevrolet Volt Reviews - Review of New Chevrolet Volt Cars - New York Times

 

[merrill]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

I'll bet they're a real party to try to drive around with 6" of snow on the road.

I would not know. If there is six inches of snow on the road I do not leave the home.... no way jose'.

Instead break out the wine,cheese,hummus and whip up my favorite tofu dip then top off the day with a marvelous black bean burrito. YUMO.

Saving green backs on gasoline allows more spending on the family and wine. The truly finer aspects of life.

 

[Oddball]

#34-That's for the Volt, obviously. And it's selling fine more recently, dittoheads. Jeebus what azzhole citizens Pubs and dupes are....brainwashed bastids- hoping for your recovery, cold war dinosaurs...

Below is a full, detailed review for the 2011 Chevrolet Volt written by the automotive experts at New Car Test Drive. A full evaluation of the driving experience, equipment and pricing are included from journalists with a wealth of experience.
Chevrolet Volt: Introduction
By JIM MCCRAW

General Motors has been working for nearly four years to bring the Volt electric sedan to market, and, based on what we've experienced, the final result is a shockingly good, technologically brilliant electrically powered sedan. The Volt seats four.

The Chevrolet Volt uses a enormous 420-pound, T-shaped lithium-ion battery, mounted right in the center of the car, under the center console and rear seat, to power the car through a large 149-horsepower, 368 foot-pound AC-current electric motor with a planetary transmission and transaxle driving the front wheels. Chevrolet says a fully charged battery will run the car on electricity alone for nearly 47 miles.

The battery, co-developed with Korea's LG Chemical, a leader in this technology, uses 288 slim cells divided into four 72-cell packs. The battery has its own separate heating and cooling systems to allow it to operate efficiently in extremes of temperature. The battery can be fully charged on normal house current in 10-12 hours, said Chevrolet, and with a 240-volt charging station, in about four hours. Since electric power rates vary wildly across the country, Chevrolet estimated than an overnight charge will cost $1.00 to $1.50 per day, far less than the several gallons of gasoline it would take most commuters to get to work and back. Chevrolet will charge $490 for the fast-charging station, plus whatever your local power utility will charge for installation, and some power companies are prepared to offer rebates on installations to promote the idea. The first 4,400 Chevrolet Volt buyers will get the charging station free.

When impending battery depletion is sensed by the electronic control system that links the battery, motor, clutches, transaxle, and starter/generator together, the 1.4-liter gasoline engine starts, and converts the starter into a 55-kilowatt generator, which then supplies electrical power to the battery and the motor so that the journey can continue.

Travel can continue until the 9.3-gallon fuel tank runs out of fuel, a distance that Chevrolet calculates to be about 350 miles, or 47 miles on the battery and 310 miles using gasoline to charge the battery. The battery is never truly depleted, and operates continuously between 50 and 65 percent of its capacity, but the system is geared toward preserving the battery's life and condition under extremes of heat, cold and continuous duty.

The Volt's 1.4-liter double-overhead-cam, four-valve, fuel injected gasoline engine is the same engine used in the Chevrolet Cruze, without the turbocharger, and is rated at 84 horsepower at 4800 rpm. Because there is the possibility of long periods of gasoline storage, the Volt is built with a sealed, pressurized fuel system, and Chevrolet has specified that only premium unleaded fuel be used because it can stand up to long periods of storage without deterioration. There is a warning system that tells the driver to go out for a drive to burn off any condensation that has reached the fuel.

Although the Volt could be characterized as a series hybrid by some definitions, Chevrolet insists the Volt is an extended-range electric vehicle with onboard generation, and that the gasoline engine, because it adds power through the starter/generator, doesn't ever drive the front tires directly.

The battery can drive the Volt in any of three modes, Normal, Sport and Mountain, in either Drive or Low ranges in the planetary transmission, offering a great deal of situational flexibility. Volt engineers recommend using the Low range any time the car is driving in bumper-to-bumper or other heavy traffic, so that the brakes can regenerate additional electricity.

If the $41,000 price tag seems high, remember the amount of new technology and expensive parts in this car, and be reminded that there is a $7500 federal tax rebate available, which drops the price down to $33,500. There is also a federal rebate of $2000 on a home charging unit. And several states offer refunds or rebates ranging from $2000 to $5000. Chevrolet offers a lease price on a Volt of $350 a month, with a 36,000-mile limit and a $2500 down payment. While the entire vehicle carries a normal GM warranty (three years, 36,000 miles), the battery itself carries an eight-year, 100,000-mile warranty.
Chevrolet Volt Reviews - Review of New Chevrolet Volt Cars - New York Times

And you still can't drive the heap of shit from Seattle to Tacoma on a single charge.

 

[francoHFW]

GM's Volt Sales Rose Amid Safety Probe - WSJ.com
Jan 4, 2012 ... General Motors sold 1529 battery-powered Chevrolet Volt cars in December, a
34% increase from the prior month, amid a U.S. investigation ...

online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424052970203471004577140711350724608.html - Cached - Similar

Now if the Pub Propaganda machine could stop sabotaging the recovery...AZZHOLES!!

 

[Oddball]

These little vehicles are fun to drive and wayyyyyyy easy to park. Used models are quite affordable.

I'll bet they're a real party to try to drive around with 6" of snow on the road.

I would not know. If there is six inches of snow on the road I do not leave the home.... no way jose'.

Instead break out the wine,cheese,hummus and whip up my favorite tofu dip then top off the day with a marvelous black bean burrito. YUMO.

Saving green backs on gasoline allows more spending on the family and wine. The truly finer aspects of life.

In other words, there's absolutely no practical utility or flexibility to your chunk of shit golf cart.

I rest my case.