Education Dept. : BDS activity against Israel will be defined as anti-Semitism

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    I have never heard of Spain or Iraq, etc being considered to be historically Jewish.
    That so many parts of the world do have Jewish history for centuries or thousands of years Is different from them being historically Jewish. They were not founded by Jews, and no Jewish nation was ever created there for people to remember them as being historically Jewish.
    Kaybhar, in Saudi Arabia could e considered still as historically Jewish for how long they were there and the fact that it has been kept empty since there. Another is aJewish kingdom which existed in Arabia until the 11th century until the Muslims conquered it.
     
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    I’m really enjoying this bullshit discussion.
    Obviously Coyote knows dip squat about the reality of Jews in Israel going back to the 60s and onwards when Jews were terrified to walk outside after sundown.
    “Too bad” those days are gone and God has overtly smiled upon the Jews despite being hated more by the world than Trump is by Liberals.
    The Arabs are schooled from birth to murder in the name of Allah and all the web sites on Earth won’t change that fact.
     
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    Possibly B'ahai, and there are some much smaller sects particularly in India like the Jains.

    But I had read that in it's background, Judaism had warriers and allowed for violence within circumscribed rules, I think another poster had talked about it once. There was Joshua, a famous warrier for example. (I'll point out is not so different than Islam, which has a lot of rules concerning warfare) - but much of that is in Jewish ancient history: Judaism and warfare - Wikipedia
     
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    What does ancient Jewish History have to do with today's invaders of Israel wanting to destroy that country and kill or enslave its people? (Ok, just make them their servants again)

    Yes, they were warriors, and conquered some people like the Jebusites and Jerusalem. And many other tribes around the area, and it all became the Nation of Israel.

    What does that have to do with how Jews have been for the past 2000 years, especially under Christian or Muslim rule?
     
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    It was just a side comment of interest - that's all Sixties. A lot of ancient religions had their roots in significant warriers or battles for survival. It's not a statement against anything.
     
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    "We have Buddhist countries actively committing genocide in horrific ways, we have Buddhist countries among those with the highest rates of child marriages and human trafficking. Gender equality and human rights are a joke in those countries. So because they don't blow up over a cartoon they are better?"

    "...you just hate Muslims right? If you knew anything about history you would know that no major religion is truly a religion of peace. It's never that simple"


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    ok coyote. shhhh. rest.



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    Of course it is - it's not applied the same in any other case where Jews are not involved, doubled with the demand that there's no Jewish state means it's nothing but antisemitism. The rhetoric used by Ash Sakar is a definite example of antisemitic bigotry used by the BDS:

    WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTISEMITISM
    • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
    • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
    • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
    • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
    • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
    Examples of the ways in which antisemitism manifests itself with regard to the State of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:

    • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
    • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
    • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
    • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
    • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
    However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.
    Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries).

    Criminal acts are antisemitic when the targets of attacks, whether they are people or property – such as buildings, schools, places of worship and cemeteries – are selected because they are, or are perceived to be, Jewish or linked to Jews.
     
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    Q. Racist hate speech may be justified by context?!
    If the rumor about You being a teacher is correct, then I'm afraid to even imagine what You've passed to those poor naive kids in schools.

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