Educate the ignorant about the need for guns!

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    Welcome, and apparently you missed this:

    Well dang, when did the rules change? It used to be for "Hi, how are ya?" not discussing topics.
     
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    Dotards agree 90% of the time...
     
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    Then only if you are in a militia can you own a firearm.

    Sorry I know gun huggers want it both ways but it isn't going to fly. Either you have to be in a well regulated militia, or all firearms are to be well regulated. And let's be honest everyone knows it says 'a well regulated militia, the right of the people to bear arms'. For the time it was written a militia was a very effective deterrent to any government. That is what they meant and that is what they said. But cons are busy lawyering the Constitution so it fits their bs today. Just as they lawyer the bible to make Jesus love the rich and spit on the poor.

    Reality isn't high on the list of most of these people that talk about 'the 2nd amendment'.
     
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    OP jumps right into the fray without meeting the mascot:

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    Awwww, aren't you cute. You make a post thinking it will show how smart you are, and it makes you look like an idiot. You claim to know something about guns, but you obviously don't.

    And when your idiocy (1950s hunting rifle = 1987 semi-auto shotgun?) you try and save face by saying I have a gun fetish? Because I can tell a shotgun from a rifle? Oh, and I'll give you a hint, the shotgun model # is 11-87. Because it was introduced in '87.
     
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    The left has the absolute weakest arguments than any subject when it comes to gun control. They tell you how much they care about kids, but put alternative ideas on the table and they reject them. Having been IN the fight longer than the majority of my critics have been alive, I've witnessed more than they can imagine - and with gun control, not one life was saved. But, we go through the same B.S. routine with every Republican president:

    A crisis happens, the Democrats rally the troops to the cause, and the gun control "debate" is on. Republicans, being the world's worst negotiators and most being dullards, they cave in to a portion of the suggested gun control argument. And what the Democrats cannot do on their own, they con the Republicans into doing it.

    At the end of the day, there is NO excuse for having crazy people running around on the streets of America with no supervision. In the case of Nickolas Cruz, the lack of law enforcement is what caused this tragedy. To blame guns is dishonest and idiotic. All the laws in the world don't help when those in charge aren't doing the jobs the taxpayers pay them for.

     
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    Did you know that military retirees are the core of the militia? Google it.

    Military retirees are subject to recall to active duty until age 75. That makes us a "well regulated militia." Ain't that a bitch for you and the rest of the gun grabbers?

    Another interesting fact. We have a large military Reserve and National Guard. And another thing: Military enlistees and draftees have a 6 year obligation once they raise their right hand, active duty and reserve combined. Therefore we always have a "well regulated militia."

    Now, what is that "well regulated militia" B.S. babble all about? Lefties need to get some smarts.
     
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    "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" II Timothy 3 : 16

    The OP wants an education in why we have a need for guns. So, the criticisms of the left are to try and capitalize on tragedies and then make up terms to bolster their false claims. The "gun culture" accusation is popular right now. The reality is gun grabbers hate our culture. Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh busted a caller and got down to the truth. In the end, the caller was against white Christians. And so I opened this little rant with a Bible verse. Since America was founded by white men and most of them were professing Christians, the critics of the Second Amendment deserve a full answer.

    In the Bible, there is the account of how Lot (Abraham's nephew) was taken hostage. Someone escaped the captors and told Abraham. And then Abraham took 318 men, went to Lot's rescue, and freed him. (see Genesis 14: 1 - 17)

    If you don't like the Bible as a religious book, think about the story as an historical one.

    In Luke 11 : 21 the New Testament says: "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace"

    Being armed was important enough that Jesus told his apostles that they would carry a sword (the same tool used by Caesar's SWAT team) even if they had to hock their robes to do it.

    "Then said he (Jesus) to them, But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

    Our forefathers did not come by the decision to separate from King George without a LOT of debate, discussion, prayer and meditation. They had to reconcile Romans 13: 1 which reads: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God" with the need to free themselves from tyranny.

    The book The Light and the Glory (by Peter Marshall and David Manuel) puts the founders dilemma into perspective:

    "When does tyranny become tyranny? Is there a time it is not only morally correct but the will of God for one to resist legally constituted authority? When does the "Lord's anointed " lose his anointing?"

    Turns out the answer was found in Galatians 5 : 1 which reads: "For freedom, Christ has set us free; stand fast, therefore, and do not submit to a yoke of slavery."

    It was on the morning of 19 April 1775 that citizens, armed and ready, stood at Lexington Green and the shot heard around the world was fired.

    And so the point of this post is to show that armed citizens were a part of the reason America was born in the first place. And, we became the greatest nation in the annals of recorded history - the nation that represented Freedom and Liberty... things the anti-gunners would take a giant dump on because they do not understand the foundational principles of this nation, the road we took to get there, nor what it takes to preserve Liberty.

    Make no mistake. The terminology like "gun culture" is a shy way of saying white men with Bibles and guns. The irrational argument regarding guns when children are dying in larger numbers over their parents drinking addiction, drug use and second hand smoke is a witness to what this is really about.

    The time has come when the anti-gun side should have a real discussion about guns and their role in American society. It's time the anti-gunners admitted that the system did not work in Nickolas Cruz's case and it did not have a damn thing to do with guns per se. The real culprit is that the government didn't do its job. The real culprit is that we don't unite as a people and get mentally ill people put into protective custody. The anti-gunners don't want to make you safe by putting the mentally into a supervised environment. At the end of the day, anti-gunners hate America's culture. They don't give two hoots in Hell about children. Otherwise anti-gunners would meet us half-way and this time talk about the root cause of the problem, NOT the mere symptoms.

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    He trolls introduction threads and attacks posters at will just as he trolls discussions in the clean debate section attacking people at will. He pretty much shits all over everything he touches.

    The site rules never seem to apply to him.
     
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    at the time, slaves were property.

    Do you wait for your house to ask you to enter, make modifications to it?

    Do your ask your car if it wants to go on a trip?

    Does a cow ask permission to be milked?

    you seem to be considering them in YOUR point of view, not the standards of that day.
     
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