Easter question: What can Christians on the left and right do about the evil of our world?

[Tommy Tainant]

How are they handling "their guilt" ?

Guilt is in quotes?

They're not guilty?

What are they guilty of ?

This is 50 year old Jurgen Klopp. He is a German. Explain what he has to feel guilt for.

I am not talking about personal guilt, but national guilt. Their nation perpetrated mass genocide that was industrial. Do I need to explain this to you? It wasn't just taking land. It was racial. This needs to be explained?

Ok. So what are they doing or not doing as a nation ? Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Its a career in the US.

See how you pivoted to the US immediately???

I'm gonna cry about HATE now just like you Tommy

waaaaaaaaahhhhh

I mentioned the US because you are an American criticising Germanys reaction to the holocaust. You still havent stated what they arent doing.

 

[SweetSue92]

Guilt is in quotes?

They're not guilty?

What are they guilty of ?

This is 50 year old Jurgen Klopp. He is a German. Explain what he has to feel guilt for.

I am not talking about personal guilt, but national guilt. Their nation perpetrated mass genocide that was industrial. Do I need to explain this to you? It wasn't just taking land. It was racial. This needs to be explained?

Ok. So what are they doing or not doing as a nation ? Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Its a career in the US.

See how you pivoted to the US immediately???

I'm gonna cry about HATE now just like you Tommy

waaaaaaaaahhhhh

I mentioned the US because you are an American criticising Germanys reaction to the holocaust. You still havent stated what they arent doing.

The Germans have become self-righteous in their new and improved "sensitivity" to all things racist, or so they think, and have turned on America as a result. They are completely self-unaware and have no idea how insufferable this is to everyone else. They judge us for OUR past now that they are so evolved. Yes, STATISTICS show they are the most cold and unfriendly toward Americans in Europe and this was BEFORE Trump.

That is my OPINION Tommy and not one borne out of "hate". Not all opinions you don't like are "hateful". Don't be so small-minded.

 

[Votto]

The religious left is not new but is not well publicized.

Barak Obama came from a church of Black Liberation theology. Essentially they want to empower government to do God's work, unless it comes to things like abortion and gay marriage, etc. Then all of a sudden we need a separation of church and state.

The Founding Fathers came from a system where the state preached from the pulpit. This created a means of all sort of abuses via the state. Many abhorred such a system and is why people came to the US, so that they could have religious freedom.. This is why the Founding Fathers refused to endorse a state religion.

To sum up, politics is about men and money and power, but the religion of God is not. If you then try to make them one in the same, men will simply use clever ways to pursue their never ending drive for money in power in the name of God.

Constantine is a prime example. He adopted the fledgling religion of Christianity as his own, but did not become a Christian. He still worshiped the pagan gods, but saw adopting a religion that seemed to thrive as it was being brutally oppressed as a good political move, and it was. Then the world was subjected to the first evils of Christianity, such as the Inquisitions and Crusades, etc. In fact, the Jewish persecution lasted for centuries with the Holocaust being the climax of such oppression.

I am also reminded of scripture where Jesus was feeding the multitude with only a few loaves of bread and a few fish. The miracle everyone witnessed caused them to want to make Jesus their worldly king, but he rejected the invitation and escaped from them. The disciples were perplexed. Why would Jesus do such a thing? But we were later clued in as Jesus was confronted by Pilate as he said that his kingdom was not of this world, for if it were, his disciples would take up arms to free him.

Also note how the Hebrew people set up their government. Essentially, God gave them a few judges to keep the peace and that was it, but the people clamored for a human king. We see this in 1 Samuel 8 as the people were warned by God that if they continued to insist on a human king, they would be subjected to a myriad of abuses since man is only after money and power for himself, but the people would not listen. God then gave them Saul as we later watched the Hebrew nation circle the drain until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

And what was Nazi Germany like? You guessed it, a socialist utopia, unless you were Jewish. In fact, I wonder how many Jews voted for Hitler.

As I look at the welfare system in the US, something does not seem right. We have a system where people are now forced to give to government with the presumption that some of the money will make it into the hands of the needy, a big presumption to be sure. In fact, I once heard that only 9 cents on the dollar actually goes to those in need. So you have a whole group of people who were forced to give them money to help others, which then negates their gift of giving. In fact, finding ways of getting out of paying taxes becomes the virtue. We all do it. Then you also create another group of people who are giving charity from government. However, the money is not given in the name of God, and instead of being seen as a gift, it becomes an entitlement. No matter how much money is then given to them, it is never enough and they are never grateful for the gifts they receive.

Those who practice their faith are the backbone of giving in the US. In fact, statistics show that those who attend church regularly give far more of the money and time to helping the poor than those that don't. Meanwhile, those that don't practice their faith or have no faith sit back and whine about needing to elect people to force them to give more of their money and time to the poor.

Very odd indeed.

And lastly, the issue of immigration is not that we should not allow immigrants into the US, the issue is whether or not the US should have control over the immigration. Should the US allow everyone in, including those who murder, rape, and promote terrorism? No, they should not. The US should secure the border and allow the citizens of the US to vote for who should be let in, and not decided for them. If the border is not secured, then it matters little what the citizens and politicians want to allow in regarding immigration because the decision will be made for them.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What are they guilty of ?

This is 50 year old Jurgen Klopp. He is a German. Explain what he has to feel guilt for.

I am not talking about personal guilt, but national guilt. Their nation perpetrated mass genocide that was industrial. Do I need to explain this to you? It wasn't just taking land. It was racial. This needs to be explained?

Ok. So what are they doing or not doing as a nation ? Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Its a career in the US.

See how you pivoted to the US immediately???

I'm gonna cry about HATE now just like you Tommy

waaaaaaaaahhhhh

I mentioned the US because you are an American criticising Germanys reaction to the holocaust. You still havent stated what they arent doing.

The Germans have become self-righteous in their new and improved "sensitivity" to all things racist, or so they think, and have turned on America as a result. They are completely self-unaware and have no idea how insufferable this is to everyone else. They judge us for OUR past now that they are so evolved. Yes, STATISTICS show they are the most cold and unfriendly toward Americans in Europe and this was BEFORE Trump.

That is my OPINION Tommy and not one borne out of "hate". Not all opinions you don't like are "hateful". Don't be so small-minded.

You make several assertions but do not back any of them up. Do you have any evidence ?

 

[Votto]

As for what can Christians do for this world, Jesus has already shown us. In fact, before Jesus came on the scene, it was survival of the fittest. The poor and down trodden were left to fend for themselves. Don't get me wrong, it is still bad but not nearly as bad as it used to be. I'm reminded of the gangster Al Capone. Even though he lived a life of theft and murder, he ran a soup kitchen for the poor. Why? Because it gave him legitimacy in a culture dominated by Christian thought. I view government much the same in terms of why they seem to want to help the poor as well.

 

[Likkmee]

Read Psalm 37 and be patient

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

No such thing as a christian leftist

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Look at their leader.

And make no mistake, Donald Trump IS the leader of the Christian right.

Donald Trump is a role model for the children of the Christian right.

These are NOT the same Christians I grew up with. Today's radical and racist Christian right is nothing like traditional Christianity.

Not EVERY thread Dean is about The Donald, your Extreme Trump Derangement Syndrome though results in EVERY thread YOU post in you posting about The Donald.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Look at their leader.

And make no mistake, Donald Trump IS the leader of the Christian right.

Donald Trump is a role model for the children of the Christian right.

These are NOT the same Christians I grew up with. Today's radical and racist Christian right is nothing like traditional Christianity.

You wouldn't know "traditional Christianity" if it fell on your head, and neither would Penny

What do you know about Christianity?

Where do you want me to start Penny? I mean ask me a question. But even your question, no doubt, will reveal a stunning lack of self-awareness

Do you think that all that hate in your heart will cause you problems come the rapture ?

There is going to be NO Rapture, only the American Evangelicals have been brainwashed with a Pre-Great Tribulation Rapture.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

No such thing as a christian leftist

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Look at their leader.

And make no mistake, Donald Trump IS the leader of the Christian right.

Donald Trump is a role model for the children of the Christian right.

These are NOT the same Christians I grew up with. Today's radical and racist Christian right is nothing like traditional Christianity.

You wouldn't know "traditional Christianity" if it fell on your head, and neither would Penny

I went to Catholic School and we actually read the Bible. We had assignments from the Bible.
It was nothing like what right wingers teach today.
Adultery is NOT excusable.
Tax cuts for billionaires is NOT what Jesus preached.
Racism isn't promoted.
See what I mean?

Donald Trump has adultery in his past but he is not preaching it as PUBLIC POLICY.

What you want us to do is vote for politicians who endorse BABY KILLING AS PUBLIC POLICY.

"What you want us to do is vote for politicians who endorse BABY KILLING AS PUBLIC POLICY."

It's incredible that the majority of Leftists are Athiests - well the ones who have NOT CONVERTED to their precious Islam yet - and they get into ANY thread about Christians and TELL Practising Christians that we do NOT KNOW ANYTHING about Christianity OR Jesus Christ, they then go on some incoherent lecture about WHAT Christianity is and WHAT Jesus Christ would do and at the SAME time they then get into other threads to TRASH Christianity and TRASH Jesus Christ who apparently to them is a Myth and/or Some Dead Jew On A Stick.

Illustrating what low IQ Muppets they are they IGNORE that in Our Bible Our Lord is on RECORD as being AGAINST Faggots and Lesbo's and on RECORD as being AGAINST the SLAUGHTER of the most innocent as they slumber in the womb, which are apart from their Black Fetish and Muslim Fetish and Blame Whitey Fetish are the TWO biggest Fetishes that ALL Leftists have, their FANATICAL support of the LGBTQ Agenda and their FANATICAL support of MURDERING the most innocent as they slumber in the womb.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

You wouldn't know "traditional Christianity" if it fell on your head, and neither would Penny

What do you know about Christianity?

Where do you want me to start Penny? I mean ask me a question. But even your question, no doubt, will reveal a stunning lack of self-awareness

Do you think that all that hate in your heart will cause you problems come the rapture ?

Tommy do you suppose that we are to put up with your anti-Christian rot and say nothing? Oh that's right. If we speak back we have "hate in our heart". I don't hate you. Or Penny. Or Dean. I think you're deluded and I feel sorry for all of you.

The first post of yours I read was full of loony conspiracy theories about Germans. It was dripping with hate. Hate seems to be an integral part of the US evangelical cult.

I slapped her for that post you refer to and if she posts any more Anti-Germanic Hate Rants I will slap her again. She is a Conservative and we can agree on many things but I am not going to allow her to trash my own. Blood is more IMPORTANT than politics and so if any more trashing I will defend and slap her again.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Do you think that all that hate in your heart will cause you problems come the rapture ?

Tommy do you suppose that we are to put up with your anti-Christian rot and say nothing? Oh that's right. If we speak back we have "hate in our heart". I don't hate you. Or Penny. Or Dean. I think you're deluded and I feel sorry for all of you.

The first post of yours I read was full of loony conspiracy theories about Germans. It was dripping with hate. Hate seems to be an integral part of the US evangelical cult.

"Dripping with hate" means disagrees with Tommy strongly. We know, Tommy, we know.

No it was nasty stuff. Germany and the US have been allies for over 70 years but you want to project nazi atrocities on to people who are your friends. It is a bizarre stance.

Poor Tommy, cry some more. Reminder: they ARE the people who spawned the Nazis, remember? Are you going to pretend YOU don't remind us of all American school shootings even if we don't do it, or Jim Crow laws and etc? Oh please. That's for starters. For enders, they are no allies of ours, nor friends. Saying so is not "hate" Tommy. Disagreeing with you is not "hate", Tommy.

"Reminder: they ARE the people who spawned the Nazis, remember?"

STFU that crap end 74 years ago, stop with your insane American Propaganda, you are a Xenophobe and have issues.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

How are they handling "their guilt" ?

Guilt is in quotes?

They're not guilty?

What are they guilty of ?

This is 50 year old Jurgen Klopp. He is a German. Explain what he has to feel guilt for.

I am not talking about personal guilt, but national guilt. Their nation perpetrated mass genocide that was industrial. Do I need to explain this to you? It wasn't just taking land. It was racial. This needs to be explained?

Ok. So what are they doing or not doing as a nation ? Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Its a career in the US.

Tommy hates the US

waaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh I have to cry about all the HATERS like Tommy

So Tommy hates the US, YOU hate Germanics, you are a hypocrite so NO ONE can hate the US but YOU can hate Germanics because of a THING that END 74 years ago? GTFO and STFU you Xenophobe bigot.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

If you are blaming modern Germans for the Nazis then it must follow that you are responsible for slavery and the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans. That would be absurd. Do you see how this works ?

Oh please Tommy, first. That is part of why you European Lefties hate America in the first place: slavery and racism and etc. And yes you do blame us. Whether I blame modern Germans or not is immaterial; YOU blame modern Americans, so don't even go there.

But I do not--what I do blame them for is their projection and the way they're handling their guilt NOW. They are handling it in rampant anti-Americanism. That's not "hate" Tommy. Anytime someone disagrees with you or makes an observation YOU DON'T LIKE, it is not "hate". Tommy.

How are they handling "their guilt" ?

Guilt is in quotes?

They're not guilty?

What are they guilty of ?

This is 50 year old Jurgen Klopp. He is a German. Explain what he has to feel guilt for.

I am not talking about personal guilt, but national guilt. Their nation perpetrated mass genocide that was industrial. Do I need to explain this to you? It wasn't just taking land. It was racial. This needs to be explained?

ZERO to be guilty for on ANY level.

So WHAT who cares? Why not be a FANATIC about what the Soviet Union did, you know Stalin was YOUR ally. Oh what else? Oh yes IF it was NOT for the Russians YOU would have LOST, the Russians win the Second War.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

No it was nasty stuff. Germany and the US have been allies for over 70 years but you want to project nazi atrocities on to people who are your friends. It is a bizarre stance.

Poor Tommy, cry some more. Reminder: they ARE the people who spawned the Nazis, remember? Are you going to pretend YOU don't remind us of all American school shootings even if we don't do it, or Jim Crow laws and etc? Oh please. That's for starters. For enders, they are no allies of ours, nor friends. Saying so is not "hate" Tommy. Disagreeing with you is not "hate", Tommy.

If you are blaming modern Germans for the Nazis then it must follow that you are responsible for slavery and the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans. That would be absurd. Do you see how this works ?

Oh please Tommy, first. That is part of why you European Lefties hate America in the first place: slavery and racism and etc. And yes you do blame us. Whether I blame modern Germans or not is immaterial; YOU blame modern Americans, so don't even go there.

But I do not--what I do blame them for is their projection and the way they're handling their guilt NOW. They are handling it in rampant anti-Americanism. That's not "hate" Tommy. Anytime someone disagrees with you or makes an observation YOU DON'T LIKE, it is not "hate". Tommy.

How are they handling "their guilt" ?

Guilt is in quotes?

They're not guilty?

NOT GUILTY. As you are a low IQ Muppet I put again:

NOT GUILTY. GUILTY OF ZERO. CRAP END 74 YEARS AGO. PEOPLES HAVE MOVED ON. ONLY AMERICAN PROPAGANDISTS AND NEW YORK LIBERALS KEEP THIS CRAP ALIVE.

 

[bodecea]

No such thing as a christian leftist

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Penny's a good little sponge. She hates who she's been told to hate.

Irony - alert!

 

[bodecea]

No such thing as a christian leftist

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Look at their leader.

And make no mistake, Donald Trump IS the leader of the Christian right.

Donald Trump is a role model for the children of the Christian right.

These are NOT the same Christians I grew up with. Today's radical and racist Christian right is nothing like traditional Christianity.

You wouldn't know "traditional Christianity" if it fell on your head, and neither would Penny

 

[bodecea]

Easter question: What can Christians on the left and right do about the evil of our world?

Contribute less.

Yes, Europe is in such fine shape with that philosophy. Keep your cultural rot over there.

Yes...Europe IS in such fine shape. They are (rightfully) laughing at our so-called president.

 

[bodecea]

No such thing as a christian leftist

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Look at their leader.

And make no mistake, Donald Trump IS the leader of the Christian right.

Donald Trump is a role model for the children of the Christian right.

These are NOT the same Christians I grew up with. Today's radical and racist Christian right is nothing like traditional Christianity.

You wouldn't know "traditional Christianity" if it fell on your head, and neither would Penny

I went to Catholic School and we actually read the Bible. We had assignments from the Bible.
It was nothing like what right wingers teach today.
Adultery is NOT excusable.
Tax cuts for billionaires is NOT what Jesus preached.
Racism isn't promoted.
See what I mean?

Donald Trump has adultery in his past but he is not preaching it as PUBLIC POLICY.

What you want us to do is vote for politicians who endorse BABY KILLING AS PUBLIC POLICY.

So....that's your excuse?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Poor Tommy, cry some more. Reminder: they ARE the people who spawned the Nazis, remember? Are you going to pretend YOU don't remind us of all American school shootings even if we don't do it, or Jim Crow laws and etc? Oh please. That's for starters. For enders, they are no allies of ours, nor friends. Saying so is not "hate" Tommy. Disagreeing with you is not "hate", Tommy.

If you are blaming modern Germans for the Nazis then it must follow that you are responsible for slavery and the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans. That would be absurd. Do you see how this works ?

Oh please Tommy, first. That is part of why you European Lefties hate America in the first place: slavery and racism and etc. And yes you do blame us. Whether I blame modern Germans or not is immaterial; YOU blame modern Americans, so don't even go there.

But I do not--what I do blame them for is their projection and the way they're handling their guilt NOW. They are handling it in rampant anti-Americanism. That's not "hate" Tommy. Anytime someone disagrees with you or makes an observation YOU DON'T LIKE, it is not "hate". Tommy.

How are they handling "their guilt" ?

Guilt is in quotes?

They're not guilty?

What are they guilty of ?

This is 50 year old Jurgen Klopp. He is a German. Explain what he has to feel guilt for.

I hope Liverpool win the EPL, they deserve to they have performed exceptional.

It is of course close though, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea I think not going to be in top two all far behind Liverpool and Manchester City, I hope Liverpool win the League but I feel that Manchester City are going to get it this I predict by 1 point or perhaps level on Points but will win the League on Goal Difference.

The Table as it stands now:

Position Club Pl GD Pts
https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/10/Liverpool/overview
1. Liverpool 35 +59 88

2. Man City 34 +65 86

3. Spurs 34 +29 67

4. Arsenal 34 +25 66

5. Chelsea 34 +21 66

 

[miketx]

No such thing as a christian leftist

Actually the Christian right are hypocrites. Very unchristian like, but they know it. Look at holy roller Sarah Sanders, she lies like Tramp.

Look at their leader.

And make no mistake, Donald Trump IS the leader of the Christian right.

Donald Trump is a role model for the children of the Christian right.

These are NOT the same Christians I grew up with. Today's radical and racist Christian right is nothing like traditional Christianity.

You wouldn't know "traditional Christianity" if it fell on your head, and neither would Penny

What do you know about Christianity?

Clearly a lot more than you two liars.