Durham Reportedly Investigating Whether CIA Withheld Information From FBI in Russia Probe

[Dragonlady]

This is proof positive that Durham's investigation has found NOTHING and has no charges to file on anyone. Now he's grasping at straws because everything else has failed.

Incidentally, as for wanting to talk to Brennan - he said on TV last night that he'd sit down with Durham any where, any time. He has nothing to hide.

But why all these people are prepared to sacrifice their professional careers and reputations, and violate their oaths of office on the alter of Trump's ego is beyond me.

Lying sack of shit!...
You LIE. even when the headlines say you lie!!

Mr. Horowitz had found that the F.B.I. acted appropriately in opening the inquiry in 2016 into whether the Trump campaign wittingly or unwittingly helped Russia influence the election in Donald J. Trump’s favor. In response, Mr. Durham, whose report is not expected to be complete for months, released a caveat-laden rebuttal: “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the F.B.I. case was opened.”

Yes, that's what Durham has said he believed, but he didn't say he had evidence to prove it. Nor has he provided any evidence to prove. This is the problem when Republicans investigate their "enemies". They start with the conclusion, and then search for evidence to support it. And when they fail to find the evidence they accuse others of covering it up.

Sensible people wait until someone does something stupid, like enthusictically embrace assistance from the Russian government in an election campaign, and invite them to do more, or brag about having access to Hillary's stolen emails in a public bar in front of a bunch of foreign embassy staffers, and say "What the hell is going on here?" and question such behaviour.

And those questions are reasonable. The FBI didn't publicize the investigation, like they did with Hillary's emails, and Mueller did say that Trump didn't criminally conspire with the Russians, but only because the Russians considered the campaign to be too chaotic and utterly incapable of not getting caught and didn't want to create any kind of record of their dealings with these clowns. That's hardly a ringing endorsement of the Trump Campaign's behaviour.

But the campaign was run by a ragtag bunch of crooks (Manafort), liars (all of them), and opportunists (Page, Guliani) and star fuckers (Papadopolous), that many of them committed multiple felonies trying to cover up this non-conspiracy, and a whole range of Trumpian crimes were uncovered in the investigation.

This is how a real crime family operates. The Clintons and most Democrats understand that in Washington, someone is always watching, always listening, and you keep your nose clean or the other side is going to be launching investigations.

But Republican Administrations since Nixon, keep flouting the law and getting caught violated the Constitution, profitting off the taxpayers, all while claiming that they're the moral party, and the Democrats are corrupt.

After Watergate, after Iran Contra, W's wars of profit, after everything that Trump has done since before the election. The Republican Party put yet another criminal into the White House and they refuse to hold him accountable.

So the American voters will. In Spades.

Dingbat. If he believed it and he's investigating it, most probable he has evidence or wouldn't have said shit!!!

This is proof positive that Durham's investigation has found NOTHING and has no charges to file on anyone. Now he's grasping at straws because everything else has failed.

Incidentally, as for wanting to talk to Brennan - he said on TV last night that he'd sit down with Durham any where, any time. He has nothing to hide.

But why all these people are prepared to sacrifice their professional careers and reputations, and violate their oaths of office on the alter of Trump's ego is beyond me.

Lying sack of shit!...
You LIE. even when the headlines say you lie!!

Mr. Horowitz had found that the F.B.I. acted appropriately in opening the inquiry in 2016 into whether the Trump campaign wittingly or unwittingly helped Russia influence the election in Donald J. Trump’s favor. In response, Mr. Durham, whose report is not expected to be complete for months, released a caveat-laden rebuttal: “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the F.B.I. case was opened.”

Yes, that's what Durham has said he believed, but he didn't say he had evidence to prove it. Nor has he provided any evidence to prove. This is the problem when Republicans investigate their "enemies". They start with the conclusion, and then search for evidence to support it. And when they fail to find the evidence they accuse others of covering it up.

Sensible people wait until someone does something stupid, like enthusictically embrace assistance from the Russian government in an election campaign, and invite them to do more, or brag about having access to Hillary's stolen emails in a public bar in front of a bunch of foreign embassy staffers, and say "What the hell is going on here?" and question such behaviour.

And those questions are reasonable. The FBI didn't publicize the investigation, like they did with Hillary's emails, and Mueller did say that Trump didn't criminally conspire with the Russians, but only because the Russians considered the campaign to be too chaotic and utterly incapable of not getting caught and didn't want to create any kind of record of their dealings with these clowns. That's hardly a ringing endorsement of the Trump Campaign's behaviour.

But the campaign was run by a ragtag bunch of crooks (Manafort), liars (all of them), and opportunists (Page, Guliani) and star fuckers (Papadopolous), that many of them committed multiple felonies trying to cover up this non-conspiracy, and a whole range of Trumpian crimes were uncovered in the investigation.

This is how a real crime family operates. The Clintons and most Democrats understand that in Washington, someone is always watching, always listening, and you keep your nose clean or the other side is going to be launching investigations.

But Republican Administrations since Nixon, keep flouting the law and getting caught violated the Constitution, profitting off the taxpayers, all while claiming that they're the moral party, and the Democrats are corrupt.

After Watergate, after Iran Contra, W's wars of profit, after everything that Trump has done since before the election. The Republican Party put yet another criminal into the White House and they refuse to hold him accountable.

So the American voters will. In Spades.

Dingbat. If he believed it and he's investigating it, most probable he has evidence or wouldn't have said shit!!!

Republicans always say they believe Hillary did this or that but they can never find any evidence of it. Chuck Grassley was certain that Jim Comey let Hillary off and spent a year investigating Hillary's emails, releasing a report that completely exonerated Hillary, after he looked at the evidence.

William Barr has said that he believed the Trump Campaign was spied on, and there has literally been no evidence found to support that belief.

Republicans believe a lot of things about Democrats and never produce any evidence. It's kind of their Standard Operating Procedure.

Republicans always start investigations with "We believe" and then they go looking for proof of their beliefs. Demcrats start every investigation with "We have evidence that". This is why Republicans go to jail, and Democrats don't.

OMG, the Mueller Investigation started off looking at Russian interference and morphed into the Russia Collusion hoax, with 2-years of the MSM bullshit that Trump is a Russian asset. Get real.
The Horowitz IG report nailed the FBI with falsifying evidence to spy on Trump.
The NSA has evidence that they were illegally spying on Trump.
The chit will hit the fan, the only question is how high up in the Obama admin the indictments will go.

The Investigation into the hacking of the DNC computer triggered the Russia investigation. Trump got invoved because after the hacking, Trump said "Russia, if you're listening". Hours later, the GRU downloaded the DNC emails.

Now maybe the Russian were trying to set him up but Trump and his people did it all to themselves. CIA and surveilling known Russian agents kept intercepting communications and meetings between Trump staffers and GRU agents - more than 200 separate contacts.

US security forces warned the Trump campaign that the people they were meeting with might be trying to recruit them as agents, and that they should report any such attempts to the FBI. The Trump campaign ignored that warning and continue to communicate with Russian agents. In the meantime numerous Trump staffers with ties to Russia "volunteered" for the Trump campaign and Donald said "all aboard without vetting any of them".

Have you watched Papadopolous' reality TV show. I urge you to find a episode. Trump is telling reporters what a fine young man with such a great reputation as one of his advisors. He is EXACTLY the kind of guy who would get drunk in a bar to brag to foreign service toffs that the Russians had Hillary's emails, and he knew how to get them. He is really is a desperate attention seeking whore without a brain in his head. Now he says he was set up. The Aussies reported it to the American Embassy, and the FBI paid George a visit, and like every single one of Trump's staffers, he lied to the FBI about contacts with Russia.

Trump completely validated the notion of extensive meetings and exchanges of information between the Russian agents and the Trump campaign. What Mueller could find enough evidence of a conspiracy to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Mueller did not say there was no evidence of a conspiracy, he said there wasn't enough evidence to obtain a conviction. What Mueller could prove that every single Trump staffer either lied to the FBI outright, about their contacts with Russians, or amended their statements when they were caught to say they forgot.

As for the allegations that Trump is a Russian agent, we don't know what happened to the that investigation because Barr killed it as soon as he got to the AG's office. No report was ever produced, no one has said they've seen one and the Justice Department refuses to speak of that investigation.

Trump has spun this as "no collusion, no collusion" but that's not what the Mueller Report says.

Given the fact sequence, had the FBI and the CIA not investigated all of these recruitment attempts by the GRU, and the lies being told by Trump staffers, and Trump's enthusiasm for the fruits of the hacking, they would have been derelict in their duty to protect national security.

This is not what Trump is telling you. It's all unfair. No Donnie. You're stupid and you do stupid and dangerous things just to be entertaining, like inviting the Russians to hack Hillary. And it's dangerous to national security. Mueller ultimately concluded that the Russian didn't really conspire with Trump because they found him and his staffers, dangerouly incompetent and ill informed and they figure they would get caught. Which they did.

 

[kyzr]

Lying sack of shit!...
You LIE. even when the headlines say you lie!!

Mr. Horowitz had found that the F.B.I. acted appropriately in opening the inquiry in 2016 into whether the Trump campaign wittingly or unwittingly helped Russia influence the election in Donald J. Trump’s favor. In response, Mr. Durham, whose report is not expected to be complete for months, released a caveat-laden rebuttal: “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the F.B.I. case was opened.”

Yes, that's what Durham has said he believed, but he didn't say he had evidence to prove it. Nor has he provided any evidence to prove. This is the problem when Republicans investigate their "enemies". They start with the conclusion, and then search for evidence to support it. And when they fail to find the evidence they accuse others of covering it up.

Sensible people wait until someone does something stupid, like enthusictically embrace assistance from the Russian government in an election campaign, and invite them to do more, or brag about having access to Hillary's stolen emails in a public bar in front of a bunch of foreign embassy staffers, and say "What the hell is going on here?" and question such behaviour.

And those questions are reasonable. The FBI didn't publicize the investigation, like they did with Hillary's emails, and Mueller did say that Trump didn't criminally conspire with the Russians, but only because the Russians considered the campaign to be too chaotic and utterly incapable of not getting caught and didn't want to create any kind of record of their dealings with these clowns. That's hardly a ringing endorsement of the Trump Campaign's behaviour.

But the campaign was run by a ragtag bunch of crooks (Manafort), liars (all of them), and opportunists (Page, Guliani) and star fuckers (Papadopolous), that many of them committed multiple felonies trying to cover up this non-conspiracy, and a whole range of Trumpian crimes were uncovered in the investigation.

This is how a real crime family operates. The Clintons and most Democrats understand that in Washington, someone is always watching, always listening, and you keep your nose clean or the other side is going to be launching investigations.

But Republican Administrations since Nixon, keep flouting the law and getting caught violated the Constitution, profitting off the taxpayers, all while claiming that they're the moral party, and the Democrats are corrupt.

After Watergate, after Iran Contra, W's wars of profit, after everything that Trump has done since before the election. The Republican Party put yet another criminal into the White House and they refuse to hold him accountable.

So the American voters will. In Spades.

Dingbat. If he believed it and he's investigating it, most probable he has evidence or wouldn't have said shit!!!

Lying sack of shit!...
You LIE. even when the headlines say you lie!!

Mr. Horowitz had found that the F.B.I. acted appropriately in opening the inquiry in 2016 into whether the Trump campaign wittingly or unwittingly helped Russia influence the election in Donald J. Trump’s favor. In response, Mr. Durham, whose report is not expected to be complete for months, released a caveat-laden rebuttal: “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the F.B.I. case was opened.”

Yes, that's what Durham has said he believed, but he didn't say he had evidence to prove it. Nor has he provided any evidence to prove. This is the problem when Republicans investigate their "enemies". They start with the conclusion, and then search for evidence to support it. And when they fail to find the evidence they accuse others of covering it up.

Sensible people wait until someone does something stupid, like enthusictically embrace assistance from the Russian government in an election campaign, and invite them to do more, or brag about having access to Hillary's stolen emails in a public bar in front of a bunch of foreign embassy staffers, and say "What the hell is going on here?" and question such behaviour.

And those questions are reasonable. The FBI didn't publicize the investigation, like they did with Hillary's emails, and Mueller did say that Trump didn't criminally conspire with the Russians, but only because the Russians considered the campaign to be too chaotic and utterly incapable of not getting caught and didn't want to create any kind of record of their dealings with these clowns. That's hardly a ringing endorsement of the Trump Campaign's behaviour.

But the campaign was run by a ragtag bunch of crooks (Manafort), liars (all of them), and opportunists (Page, Guliani) and star fuckers (Papadopolous), that many of them committed multiple felonies trying to cover up this non-conspiracy, and a whole range of Trumpian crimes were uncovered in the investigation.

This is how a real crime family operates. The Clintons and most Democrats understand that in Washington, someone is always watching, always listening, and you keep your nose clean or the other side is going to be launching investigations.

But Republican Administrations since Nixon, keep flouting the law and getting caught violated the Constitution, profitting off the taxpayers, all while claiming that they're the moral party, and the Democrats are corrupt.

After Watergate, after Iran Contra, W's wars of profit, after everything that Trump has done since before the election. The Republican Party put yet another criminal into the White House and they refuse to hold him accountable.

So the American voters will. In Spades.

Dingbat. If he believed it and he's investigating it, most probable he has evidence or wouldn't have said shit!!!

Republicans always say they believe Hillary did this or that but they can never find any evidence of it. Chuck Grassley was certain that Jim Comey let Hillary off and spent a year investigating Hillary's emails, releasing a report that completely exonerated Hillary, after he looked at the evidence.

William Barr has said that he believed the Trump Campaign was spied on, and there has literally been no evidence found to support that belief.

Republicans believe a lot of things about Democrats and never produce any evidence. It's kind of their Standard Operating Procedure.

Republicans always start investigations with "We believe" and then they go looking for proof of their beliefs. Demcrats start every investigation with "We have evidence that". This is why Republicans go to jail, and Democrats don't.

OMG, the Mueller Investigation started off looking at Russian interference and morphed into the Russia Collusion hoax, with 2-years of the MSM bullshit that Trump is a Russian asset. Get real.
The Horowitz IG report nailed the FBI with falsifying evidence to spy on Trump.
The NSA has evidence that they were illegally spying on Trump.
The chit will hit the fan, the only question is how high up in the Obama admin the indictments will go.

The Investigation into the hacking of the DNC computer triggered the Russia investigation. Trump got involved because after the hacking, Trump said "Russia, if you're listening". Hours later, the GRU downloaded the DNC emails.

Now maybe the Russian were trying to set him up but Trump and his people did it all to themselves. CIA and surveilling known Russian agents kept intercepting communications and meetings between Trump staffers and GRU agents - more than 200 separate contacts.

US security forces warned the Trump campaign that the people they were meeting with might be trying to recruit them as agents, and that they should report any such attempts to the FBI. The Trump campaign ignored that warning and continue to communicate with Russian agents. In the meantime numerous Trump staffers with ties to Russia "volunteered" for the Trump campaign and Donald said "all aboard without vetting any of them".

Have you watched Papadopolous' reality TV show. I urge you to find a episode. Trump is telling reporters what a fine young man with such a great reputation as one of his advisors. He is EXACTLY the kind of guy who would get drunk in a bar to brag to foreign service toffs that the Russians had Hillary's emails, and he knew how to get them. He is really is a desperate attention seeking whore without a brain in his head. Now he says he was set up. The Aussies reported it to the American Embassy, and the FBI paid George a visit, and like every single one of Trump's staffers, he lied to the FBI about contacts with Russia.

Trump completely validated the notion of extensive meetings and exchanges of information between the Russian agents and the Trump campaign. What Mueller could find enough evidence of a conspiracy to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Mueller did not say there was no evidence of a conspiracy, he said there wasn't enough evidence to obtain a conviction. What Mueller could prove that every single Trump staffer either lied to the FBI outright, about their contacts with Russians, or amended their statements when they were caught to say they forgot.

As for the allegations that Trump is a Russian agent, we don't know what happened to the that investigation because Barr killed it as soon as he got to the AG's office. No report was ever produced, no one has said they've seen one and the Justice Department refuses to speak of that investigation.

Trump has spun this as "no collusion, no collusion" but that's not what the Mueller Report says.

Given the fact sequence, had the FBI and the CIA not investigated all of these recruitment attempts by the GRU, and the lies being told by Trump staffers, and Trump's enthusiasm for the fruits of the hacking, they would have been derelict in their duty to protect national security.

This is not what Trump is telling you. It's all unfair. No Donnie. You're stupid and you do stupid and dangerous things just to be entertaining, like inviting the Russians to hack Hillary. And it's dangerous to national security. Mueller ultimately concluded that the Russian didn't really conspire with Trump because they found him and his staffers, dangerously incompetent and ill informed and they figure they would get caught. Which they did.

1. Trump said "if you're listening find Hillary's missing 30,000 emails". Trump had nothing to do with the DNC hack.
2. The Mueller Investigation said that the Trump campaign had the opportunity to collude with Russia, but declined. Hillary paid Russians for dirt on Trump via the Steele Dossier. Why didn't Mueller look into her collusion?
3. Mifsud and Brennan setup Popadope, stay tuned for the Barr/Durham investigation.
4. Your old Russia bullshit was debunked by Mueller.
5. You should worry more about Bernie winning the democrat nomination. What will you do? Say that being commie is a good thing?