Durbin says Democrats don hat tip to quantum windbag who started a thread- http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...l-bring-up-jobs-bill-sometime-next-month.html ala Durbin and the difficulty then on Sept. 19 of collecting Democratic Votes for the Jobs Bill. I update here as I see a doubling down and a subtle message back to Obama from the senate, you are using us, we know you are and, well, sorry but senators last forever, Presidents come and go, sayonara. Though he understates the issue they have amongst their own caucus, Charlie Cook the non partisan handicapper/prognosticator over at nat. journal estimates in reality there may be as many 12-15 Dem. Senators who wont touch it. Its not a surprise really, the dems have what 22-23? seats to defend next year, DC politics ala Obamas needs dont match up at the local- state level as the been there done that stimulus thang and the class warfare angle is not quite the answer on their level.