Drug cartels buy 95% of their guns in the U.S.

Are you kidding me with half the Mexican cops on the cartels payroll? There is no difference other than perhaps time and quantity. I don't doubt that they get some guns from the US but 95% is a hell of a stretch. Ease doesn't mean crap anyway when you're talking a price per item difference of times thirty or more. It would be one thing if their weapon of choice was the M-!6 but it isn't, it's the AK which can be had all of the third world for less than 10% of it's cost in the US. The damn thing may be your basic spray and pray weapon with an effective range of not much more than a hundred or a hundred and fifty yards but in an urban environment combat is usually more like 50 feet max and it is vastly more important at that range that your weapon never jams than it is that your weapon can place a three shot group at 300 hundred yards that you can cover with a quarter.
 
I find it troubling that Mexican mafia is using the AK 47.

It would be better for our economy if they were using American weapons to kill us, and intimidate the Mexican police.

Damn it! Have we no gun salesmen in Mexico?
 
I find it troubling that Mexican mafia is using the AK 47.

It would be better for our economy if they were using American weapons to kill us, and intimidate the Mexican police.

Damn it! Have we no gun salesmen in Mexico?
an AK-47 is about half the cost of an AR-15
 
Crime Statistics > Firearms Death Rate per 100,000 (most recent) by state
VIEW DATA: Totals
Definition Source Printable version
Bar Graph Map Correlations

Showing latest available data.
Rank States Amount (top to bottom)
#1 District of Columbia: 31.2
#2 Alaska: 20
#3 Louisiana: 19.5
#4 Wyoming: 18.8
#5 Arizona: 18
#6 Nevada: 17.3
#7 Mississippi: 17.3
#8 New Mexico: 16.6
#9 Arkansas: 16.3
#10 Alabama: 16.2
#11 Tennessee: 15.4
#12 West Virginia: 14.7
#13 Montana: 14.5
#14 South Carolina: 13.8
#15 North Carolina: 13.6
#16 Georgia: 13.4
#17 Kentucky: 13.1
#18 Oklahoma: 13.1
#19 Missouri: 12.3
#20 Idaho: 12.3
#21 Indiana: 11.7
#22 Colorado: 11.5
#23 Maryland: 11.5
#24 Florida: 11.1
#25 Virginia: 11.1
#26 Texas: 11
#27 Michigan: 10.9
#28 Oregon: 10.5
#29 Pennsylvania: 9.9
#30 California: 9.8
#31 Illinois: 9.7
#32 Kansas: 9.7
#33 Utah: 9.7
#34 Vermont: 9.6
#35 Ohio: 9.3
#36 Washington: 9.3
#37 Delaware: 9.1
#38 North Dakota: 9.1
#39 Wisconsin: 8.1
#40 Nebraska: 8.1
#41 South Dakota: 7.9
#42 Iowa: 6.7
#43 Maine: 6.5
#44 Minnesota: 6
#45 New Hampshire: 5.8
#46 Rhode Island: 5.1
#47 New York: 5.1
#48 New Jersey: 4.9
#49 Connecticut: 4.3
#50 Massachusetts: 3.1
#51 Hawaii: 2.8
Weighted average: 11.5

StateMaster - Firearms Death Rate per 100,000 (most recent) by state



State Rate \2 Rank
United States 466 (X)
Alabama 427 22
Alaska 635 7
Arizona 504 13
Arkansas 499 15
California 552 10
Colorado 374 25
Connecticut 286 34
Delaware 568 9
District of Columbia 1,371 (X)
Florida 711 2
Georgia 456 19
Hawaii 254 39
Idaho 245 41
Illinois 543 11
Indiana 325 29
Iowa 271 37
Kansas 375 24
Kentucky 245 41
Louisiana 639 6
Maine 104 49
Maryland 701 3
Massachusetts 459 18
Michigan 490 17
Minnesota 270 38
Mississippi 295 32
Missouri 491 16
Montana 294 33
Nebraska 309 30
Nevada 616 8
New Hampshire 167 47
New Jersey 356 26
New Mexico 687 5
New York 442 21
North Carolina 448 20
North Dakota 79 50
Ohio 342 28
Oklahoma 501 14
Oregon 298 31
Pennsylvania 411 23
Rhode Island 247 40
South Carolina 784 1
South Dakota 172 46
Tennessee 695 4
Texas 541 12
Utah 236 43
Vermont 112 48
Virginia 276 35
Washington 344 27
West Virginia 271 36
Wisconsin 210 45
Wyoming 230 44

X Not applicable.

From Chris's link.

Thanks for posting that.

As you can see all the states that lead in violent crime are pro gun states.
 

So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:
 

So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:

Sensible regulations could prevent a lot of these problems, but the gun lobby doesn't want any regulation.
 

So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:
complete bullshit, and you know it
gun manufacturers would never survive if they made 5 times what they could sell

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 

So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:

Sensible regulations could prevent a lot of these problems, but the gun lobby doesn't want any regulation.

And just like they get idiots like Divecon to argue for everything else, they have him arguing that the gun manufacturers should be able to make as many as they can sell and they should be able to sell them to anyone. And they should be automatics and loaded with cop killer ammo.

And EVERYONE takes Dive seriously. :cuckoo:
 
PHOENIX (AP) — As police approached a drug cartel's safe house in northwestern Mexico last May, gunmen inside poured on fire with powerful assault rifles and grenades, killing seven officers whose weapons were no match.

Four more lawmen were wounded in the bloodbath and a cache of weapons was seized, including a single AK-47 assault rifle that authorities say was purchased 800 miles away at a Phoenix gun shop and smuggled into Mexico.

The rifle's presence in Mexico underscores two realities in the government's war against drug traffickers: Nearly all the guns the cartels use are smuggled into Mexico from the U.S., and officials say a small number of corrupt American weapons dealers are making the gun running possible.

"It's a war," said Bill Newell, special agent in charge of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Arizona and New Mexico. "It's a war between the drug cartels. And it's a war between the government and the drug cartels. And the weapons of war are the weapons that they are acquiring illegally here in the United States."

Authorities don't know how many firearms are sneaked across the border, but the ATF says more than 7,700 guns sold in America were traced to Mexico last year, up from 3,300 the year before and about 2,100 in 2006. The increase is attributed both to a higher volume going south and a growing interest among Mexican authorities in running recovered weapons through a U.S. gun-tracing database.

Mexican and U.S. officials estimate the cartels get 95 percent of their guns from the United States; others are stolen when cartels overrun Mexican authorities. Cartels recruit "straw buyers" in the United States who make purchases on their behalf. Then people are paid to bring the weapons across the border.

8PYkwksF26IwgdN0LALLhRvXAD95VHUF00]The Associated Press: Cartels in Mexico's drug war get guns from US[/url]
If you just legalize marijuana and coke this would be not such a problem.
And I will give another example of poor gun control: you are a seventeen year old trying to fit in doing drugs, your father is a retired military person and has a gun not locked up so you steal it to brag to your friends. So one friend talked you into bringing it out and you are high so you shoot at a red car and you hit a innocent young kid same age as you but really you are not that bad of a kid. Then your friend turns you to get a deal because they were there plus they have other things on their record they could go away for. You get arrested two days after you shoot this kid but your friend who is more corrupt then you get's off. YOu plead quitly and spend a year before going to prison finding GOD and turing your life around and then in prison and out you pay your victim money every month. And a year after your friend talked you into shooting at that car that was bad plus talking you into stealing your dad gun shoots a cab driver in the back of the head, how do you feel?
Or how do you feel when you are fourteen years old and you watch a bullet be taken out of your big brother's face who is only seventeen right in front of you because your parents had to talk to ER person about insurance and than you have someone tell you there is a good reason to keep a gun in their house with children.

You are a bad kid if you steal your father's pistol, shoot, and kill an innocent person. STOP watching rap videos.
 

So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:

Sensible regulations could prevent a lot of these problems, but the gun lobby doesn't want any regulation.
wrong again
the NRA is for SENSIBLE regulations that don't violate the 2nd amendment
 

So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:
complete bullshit, and you know it
gun manufacturers would never survive if they made 5 times what they could sell

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Listen to me cock sucker. They sell all of them. Only 1/5th of them are sold legally, you stupid ball licker. :lol:
 
So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:

Sensible regulations could prevent a lot of these problems, but the gun lobby doesn't want any regulation.
wrong again
the NRA is for SENSIBLE regulations that don't violate the 2nd amendment

Like?
 
So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:

Need a link for this SB.
 
So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:
complete bullshit, and you know it
gun manufacturers would never survive if they made 5 times what they could sell

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Listen to me cock sucker. They sell all of them. Only 1/5th of them are sold legally, you stupid ball licker. :lol:
you are the fucking moron
 
So the gun lobbyists lobby our politicians to let them continue to do this.

For example, every year lets say 1 million guns are sold legally, yet they manufacture 5 million guns.

So they know those extra guns are going to gangs are drug cartels. Nice.

Or the gun manufacturers insist they don't know who's buying them.

And we allow this because the NRA pays our politicians to look the other way. And some of us even vote against politicians because they are for gun regulations. As if they are the nuts. :cuckoo:

Need a link for this SB.
he pulled it out of his ass
the same place he gets most of his posts
 
Thanks for posting that.

As you can see all the states that lead in violent crime are pro gun states.

Your conclusion doesn't hold up...Vermont, Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota are pro-gun states and they are at the bottom of the list.
 

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