Drone Incident

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    The media is being spoon fed info about the drone incident in Iran that changes daily it seems. Now we are told that the drone was in Afghanistan air space and wasn't shot down. OK, so how does Iran come to possess our drone. Assume the drone was over Afghanistan
    air space and suffered a failure that stopped it's ability to fly (electronics or power plant).

    As the drone descended emergency chutes automatically deployed at a certain altitude. Prevailing winds then carried the drone the relatively short distance into Iran and thus they can claim any story that sells Iranian newspapers. This would account for the lack of blast, burn and smoke damage of a warhead explosion. It would also account for the "covering" of the bottom of the drone as it would come to rest on it's belly and suffer some impact or drag damage, albeit slight.

    If this is so then we are entitled to have our drone back.

    I offer as precedent the defection of a Soviet Union pilot who flew his then state of the art Russian MIG-25 to Japan. After we gleaned what we could we returned the plane.

    Of course the Iranians are not gentlemen and don't abide by the unwritten code.

    Some postulate that the craft in the pictures is not a real drone but a mock-up. If so, then who cares.
     
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    A bigger problem than a downed spy drone...
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    Russians providing jamming equipment to Iran is worse news than downed spy drone: Bolton
    Monday 12th December, 2011 - Former US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton has said that reports suggesting that Russia provided jamming equipment to Iran is even worse than the news of Tehran capturing an American spy drone.
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    Iran threatens whole world - Israeli president
    Mon 12 December 2011 : Shimon Peres has called for more international pressure on Iran to stop the country acquiring nuclear weapons.
     
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    Uncle Ferd says, "Yea - dey gonna send it back an' put one o' dem Hellfire missiles up Obama's wazoo...
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    Decoding done, Iran set to 'reverse engineer' US drone
    Dec 13, 2011 : Iranian experts are in the final stages of recovering data from the US surveillance drone captured by the country's armed forces, the state TV reported on Monday.
     
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    What's worse is out traitor and chief let them have it. The fucking POS little muslim ass clown could have had special ops go in and retrieve it, or we could have blown it to bits. Both options were presented to him. But no, the shit stain in the black house chose to just let the Iranians, the Chinese and the Russians enjoy reverse engineering one of our most sophisticated stealth drone air craft. The mother fucker obama ought to be lead out of the black house in chains for treason and shot.
     
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    Dead Eye Dick givin' `em hell...
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    Cheney rips Obama over Iran drone capture
    Dec 13, 2011 - Iran's capture of a U.S. surveillance drone has revived the feud between President Obama and former vice president Dick Cheney.

     
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    Yesterday an Iranian engineer published on the Internet that the drone was spoofed into landing in Iraq because the GPS was hacked and new commands given. This is good to know because the capability of Electronic Warfare by Iran and it's allies has taken a big jump and it's now in the open.

    This puts at risk any remote controlled weapons system we have. During the Vietnam war the US and the NVA (read Soviet Union) played cat and mouse electronically continually.

    We, of all people, should know that electronic advantages are perishable commodities.

    Time for a counter-counter measure (so to speak).
     
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    You are correct

    Latest information seems to be that the drones control frequency was jammed. Once the drone loses it's control it reverts to ......return to base

    Iran spoofed the GPS readings to make the drone think it was landing in Afghanistan instead of Iran

    I don't see where our military knew where it had actually landed
     
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    How about transmitting data over an ENCRYPTION?

    And have a built in GPS that can determine where it is at when the connection is shut off so it can get to a safe zone?
    It's possible and can be accurate.
     
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    The control signal to the drone is encrypted so that nobody else can take control. GPS does not send a signal, the drone triangulates off of GPS satellite positions. That is what was spoofed
     
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    is there any way to make the drone determine if the GPS location was spoofed?
     

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