DREAM Arguments Pull at Heartstrings But Ignore Commonsense

Discussion in 'Immigration/Illegal Immigration' started by ForestGirl, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. ForestGirl
    Offline

    ForestGirl Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    165
    Thanks Received:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +39
    The passage of the DREAM Act in the House on Wednesday makes me think how quickly we forget to be thankful after Thanksgiving. Instead of being thankful for the education and other opportunities they have already received, potential beneficiaries of the DREAM Act amnesty are asking for more. More education, more jobs, more benefits, and everything else that comes with amnesty and American citizenship.

    NumbersUSA | For Lower Immigration Levels - For Lower Immigration Levels
     
  2. Intense
    Offline

    Intense Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Messages:
    44,909
    Thanks Received:
    5,849
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +5,863
    We are going to be under allot of pressure fighting this. it just seems like one unfunded mandate after another, putting us deeper in the hole. They are playing all of the angles.


    Groups like The National Council of La Raza and other Hispanic and immigrant advocacy groups know the prospects for comprehensive immigration reform are dim for the time being. So they've turned their attention to a measure that they believe will spark more sympathy from most Americans, bringing with them a coalition of labor groups, the Conference of Catholic Bishops and even Defense Secretary Robert Gates. And come 2012, advocates say, Spanish-language media will be filled with ads slamming lawmakers who voted against the Dream Act.

    "Many of us come from families with mixed (immigration) status. We can't vote, but our families and friends can," said Julieta Garibay, 29, one of the original "Dreamers" who has pushed for the Dream Act since it was first introduced in Congress in 2001. "Our allies will remember who voted, and how they voted, and will hold them accountable in 2012."

    The Dream Act would provide qualified people up to the age of 29 with a path to citizenship if they attend college or join the military, while mandating decades before they could petition for family. An estimated 2.1 million immigrants could be eligible, though it's likely a far smaller number would meet the bill's requirements.

    With Dream Act shelved, immigrants look to 2012
     
  3. Wolfmoon
    Offline

    Wolfmoon U B U & I'll B Me 4 USA!

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2009
    Messages:
    2,520
    Thanks Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    PROUD, USA
    Ratings:
    +146
    Record numbers go hungry in the US

    Government report shows 50m people unable to put food on the table at some point last year

    Record numbers go hungry in households in the US | World news | guardian.co.uk

    "More than a million children regularly go to bed hungry in the US, according to a government report that shows a startling increase in the number of families struggling to put food on the table. President Barack Obama, who pledged to eradicate childhood hunger, has described as "unsettling" the agriculture department survey, which says 50 million people in the US – one in six of the population – were unable to afford to buy sufficient food to stay healthy at some point last year, in large part because of escalating unemployment or poorly paid jobs. These numbers are a wake-up call … for us to get very serious about food security and hunger, about nutrition and food safety in this country. The numbers to worsen when the survey for this year is released in 2010."
     
  4. William Joyce
    Offline

    William Joyce Chemotherapy for PC

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2004
    Messages:
    9,693
    Thanks Received:
    1,135
    Trophy Points:
    190
    Location:
    Caucasiastan
    Ratings:
    +1,349
    It's a dream for Hispanics, a nightmare for the rest of us.
     
  5. Intense
    Offline

    Intense Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Messages:
    44,909
    Thanks Received:
    5,849
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +5,863
    I have an original idea. If we can't sustain who we have here already, maybe the humane thing to do is first close our borders, and then send those home that can't sustain themselves. I wonder why nobody has thought of that before????? ;) :lol:
     
  6. Intense
    Offline

    Intense Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Messages:
    44,909
    Thanks Received:
    5,849
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +5,863
    Maybe it is just too unfair to expect people to make it to the Food Pantries without assistance. Maybe we should Chauffeur them, or better yet have the food delivered directly to them. Maybe we should prepare it for them too, and clean their dishes when they are done.
     
  7. Wolfmoon
    Offline

    Wolfmoon U B U & I'll B Me 4 USA!

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2009
    Messages:
    2,520
    Thanks Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    PROUD, USA
    Ratings:
    +146
    The food pantries and church freebies are being raided by illegal aliens. There's nothing left after they've over abused them! There have been many a news stories about them emptying them, and leaving nothing for the poor and needy Americans.
     
  8. Intense
    Offline

    Intense Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Messages:
    44,909
    Thanks Received:
    5,849
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +5,863
    Allot of food goes through our's every week. There is generally little left over, but that is the point.
     
  9. bag
    Offline

    bag Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2010
    Messages:
    68
    Thanks Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    houston, tx
    Ratings:
    +9
    gee, it was nice to sacrifice and tout the fairness ofthe American system when times were going good. now that we have a challenge... throw that all to hell. hippocrits, all.
     
  10. BlueFlamer
    Offline

    BlueFlamer BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2010
    Messages:
    13
    Thanks Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +2
    The DREAM Act wasn't going anywhere to begin with, and the Dems knew it before they forced a vote on this issue. They knew there wasn't enough support in Congress to get it passed into law. The only reason they pushed it through was to pander to Hispanic voters.

    Right now the majority of Americans already support the actions Arizona has taken. Every single poll you look at shows this. We, The People, are sick and tired of the federal government's refusal to enforce illegal immigration laws. We, The People, are fed up with spending billions of dollars each year on a problem that never gets fixed, only worsens, saps our resources, and benefits no one but giant corporations looking to make themselves richer, and illegal citizens themselves. Look bag, if we weren't completely fed up, there wouldn't be 25 states considering anti-illegal-immigration laws similar to Arizona's despite the fact that a federal judge (a Clinton appointee--imagine that!) ruled key parts of the legislation unconstitutional.

    And bag, I do feel for these people. I mean, it’s not their fault that drug cartels puppeteer Mexican government and law enforcement officials. It’s not their fault that this corruption is the very reason Mexico’s economy is failing and can’t support its own population. But on the flip side, it is not the United States’ responsibility to absorb the mass exodus that has resulted from Mexico’s inability to deal with its own problems.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2010

Share This Page