Dr Patrick Chavis

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    Seven years ago, Chavis became the toast of the media elite and the racial preference crowd when he was profiled lavishly by New York Times magazine writer Nicholas Lemann. Chavis, who made the cover of the magazine, was a black physician admitted to the University of California-Davis medical school under a special racial-preference quota.

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    Allan Bakke, meanwhile, the white man who had to flippin' SUE his way into medical school, has a nice little practice going. These are the stories you won't hear from the media, because they're inconvenient to the whole "blacks are just like whites and are only oppressed because whites are evil" theme.

    But in fact, they are not. Blacks have an average IQ that is 15 points lower than whites, and this is almost wholly the result of inheritance, not environmental factors. They also have numerous behavioral differences, including shorter time horizons and lack of impulse control. THAT is why they are so much more poor and crime-prone. NOT because white people are evil.

    Well, I might be evil. But that's beside the point. And most white people are really pretty nice.

    But you won't hear that from the media, either.
     
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    From where do you get the statistic and the reason for it? Please provide me with a link to a web site giving this information or even a reference.
     
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    Prepare for a spiral into craziness.
     
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    The biological factors underlying race differences in sports have consequences for educational achievement, crime and sexual behavior. In educational achievement and occupational success, Orientals average slightly ahead of Whites, who average substantially ahead of Blacks. On standardized IQ tests, hundreds of studies show this three-way pattern. Most IQ tests have an average score of 100, with a "normal" range from 85 to 115. Whites average from 100 to 103. Orientals in Asia and the U.S. tend to have higher scores, about 106, even though IQ tests were made for the Euro-American culture. Blacks in the U.S., the Caribbean, Britain and Africa average lower IQs-about 85. The lowest average IQs are found for sub-Saharan Africans-from 70 to 75.

    The relation between brain size and intelligence has been shown by dozens of studies, including state-of-the-art magnetic resonance imaging. Orientals average 1 cubic inch more brain matter than Whites, and Whites average a very large 5 cubic inches more than Blacks. Since one cubic inch of brain matter contains millions of brain cells and hundreds of millions of nerve connections, brain size differences help to explain why the races differ in IQ.

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    :D :D :D
    LOLOLOLOL

    Oh wait, you really believe that stuff. Sorry, thought you were auditioning for comedy central.

    Good Luck with that.
     
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    Sure. It's all through The Bell Curve, published in 1994 by Murray and Herrnstein. The Bell Curve, in turn, cites studies dating back to WWI (Shuey's work) up 'til today. You can also find references in Michael Levin's "Why Race Matters," J. Phillippe Rushton's "Race, Evolution and Behavior," and "Race, Genetics and Society," by Glayde Whitney.

    More detail, if you are interested:

    Why Race Matters: Race Differences and What They Mean, by Michael Levin. "The main scientific evidence of black/white differences in intelligence is black and white performance on standardized intelligence tests. Competent authorities agree that, as measured by the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale, the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children, the Raven's Progressive Matrices, and similar instruments, the mean IQ of whites exceeds that of American blacks by about one standard deviation." Page 34.

    "This difference was first observed during Army recruits during World War I, and has remained fairly constant." Page 34.

    "The most throrough survey of the literature through 1966 is Shuey's The Testing of Negro Intelligence (1966), which reports 382 comparative studies involving 80 different tests administered to hundreds of thousands of black and white children, high school and college students, military personnel, civilian adults, deviates, and criminals. The average black score in these studies was a bit below 85 and the average white IQ a bit above 100, with the difference in the means in the various studies ranging from 12 to 18 points." Page 35.

    "In other words, 88 percent of blacks -- and by definition 50 percent of whites -- score below the white mean." Page 35.

    Race, Evolution & Behavior: A Life History Perspective, by J. Phillipe Rushton. "For example, Mervyn Skuy and his colleagues (2000) found South African secondary students (in South Africa) had IQ equivalents in the 70s range on several tests, including the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-Revised (WISC-R), the Rey Auditory Verbal Learning Test, the Stroop Color Word Test, the Wisconsin Card Sorting Test, the Bender Gestalt Visual Motor Integration Test, the Rey Osterreith Complex Figure Test, the Train Making Test, the Spatial Memory Task, and various Drawing Tasks." Page 15.

    For "cultural bias" debunkment, see Why Race Matters. For inheritiability of the above, see The Bell Curve.
     
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    Wow. I didn't think that race mattered. Then I was introduced to the notion that due to brain size, related to IQ, there significant racial differences that are shaped genetically rather than socially. Now I see stuff that refutes THIS claim. So much stuff! Okay. My opinion has shifted a tiny bit. Perhaps Blacks should be treated slightly differently by the state...until I find persuading information to the contrary.

    Inequality by Design: Cracking the Bell Curve Myth by six members of the University of California, Berkeley, Department of Sociology does precisely what its title promises. Through a reanalysis of the data set used in the infamous Herrnstein and Murray book (see Examiner, Winter 1994-95), the authors refute the claim that inherited differences in intelligence cause inequality. Instead, they show that racial variations in achievement are the result of a society s inequality, not an unavoidable consequence of genes.

    http://www.fairtest.org/examarts/winter97/bellcurv.htm
     
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    So matt, if this is true, then you feel it justifies affirmative action? Racial discrimination is wrong, still. You already know some individuals are smarter than others. How does a POSSIBLE racial correlation change things, from the individual perspective?

    Think about this matt. If you feel these stats being true justifies affirmative action, why aren't the liberals behind them?
     
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