Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[Katzndogz]

I can't hate King. I certainly can't hate him for the legend created after his death to make him a martyr for the cause.

For years, Coretta King did not believe that James Earl Ray was acting alone. She believed that he acted on behalf of black leadership who saw him spiraling out of control. As the face of the civil rights movement, if he fell, the entire movement would collapse. She believed that for many years. Of course she made a bundle off his death and elevation to near sainthood too.

 

[Rocko]

What exactly is it I'm I fighting, that he stood for.

 

[Truthmatters]

GOP Memo Admits Plan Could 'Keep Black Vote Down' - Los Angeles Times



quit trying to keep black people from voting

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh the irony............JFK voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1957. The Democrat put Civil Rights at the bottom of his list, after he promised to help during his campaign.

Regardless of his promises, in 1961 Kennedy did nothing to help and push forward the civil rights issue. Why? International factors meant that the president could never focus attention on domestic issues in that year. He also knew that there was no great public support for such legislation. Opinion polls indicated that in 1960 and 1961, civil rights was at the bottom of the list when people were asked "what needs to be done in America to advance society ?" Kennedy was also concentrating his domestic attention on improving health care and helping the lowest wage earners. Civil rights issues would only cloud the issue and disrupt progress in these areas. Kennedy also argued that improving health care and wages for the poor would effectively be civil rights legislation as they would benefit the most from these two.

John Kennedy and Civil Rights

And the great majority of the party (including JFK and LBJ) changed for the good, many of its bad guys went into the GOP, the two parties worked well on the issues in 1964 and 1965, and the GOP has not done well since.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Isn't it odd that nobody talks about the white woman he had went to that hotel to meet?

 

[California Girl]

I wonder how MLK would view the people who claim him for their partisan bullshit. Having read a lot of and by the man... I kind of think he'd be ashamed of y'all. But, if you don't really care about the man, his work and his values... then I guess you have no problem in using his name for your partisan crap.

He would cheer the people who LOVE what he did for America.


I am one of those.

You dont get to claim him as yours while fighting against what he stood for.

I'm not 'claiming' him. I respect him far too much to do so. It is a pity that you respect him so little that you claim him as 'yours'. He is not yours. He - his legacy - belongs to America. All of it.

And, again, if you knew anything about him .... you would know that he would be horrified by the way you people (partisan left wing morons) lie about him for your political point scoring. He would be horrified by the damage people like you have done to minorities.

 

[Katzndogz]

Anyone who starts a post with 'probably' and makes an idiotic claims about what someone else has read is not smart enough for me to concern myself with.

Twit.

I said probably because I don't know where you get your information from. I can't say definitively what you have read to form the opinions that you have. I can say that what you have read promotes the legend and not the truth of what King really was. Look it up. Stop accepting the pablum cooked up to make a legend. Look it up for yourself.

I've read extensively about King, and - despite your claims - not all from the positive point of view. That is called research. Intelligent research on an individual requires one read both the positive and the negative. From that, one forms one's own opinion. I hope that helps you understand how intelligent people develop their opinions. Perhaps you might be encouraged to try it for yourself.

It is OBVIOUS I have formed my own opinion, which is different from yours! Please don't say that unless I agree with you I don't think for myself. That's appropriate for democrats and Ron Paulites, I have more respect for you than that.

 

[rightwinger]

Imagine going into a restaurant and being told you could not sit inside on the tables off of real plates but that you could go around the back and get food in a sack...but still pay the same price for the indignity.
Imagine driving with your kids and being told at a gas station that your kids could not use the restroom
Imagine getting on a bus in the front, paying the driver and having to get off the bus and reenter through the back door so you would not have to walk through the white people

Now, imagine it is 2012 and we have a leading presidential candidate who supports that

 

[California Girl]

Imagine going into a restaurant and being told you could not sit inside on the tables off of real plates but that you could go around the back and get food in a sack...but still pay the same price for the indignity.
Imagine driving with your kids and being told at a gas station that your kids could not use the restroom
Imagine getting on a bus in the front, paying the driver and having to get off the bus and reenter through the back door so you would not have to walk through the white people

Now, imagine it is 2012 and we have a leading presidential candidate who supports that

Imagine if you stopped lying for political point scoring? Hard, isn't it?

 

[California Girl]

I said probably because I don't know where you get your information from. I can't say definitively what you have read to form the opinions that you have. I can say that what you have read promotes the legend and not the truth of what King really was. Look it up. Stop accepting the pablum cooked up to make a legend. Look it up for yourself.

I've read extensively about King, and - despite your claims - not all from the positive point of view. That is called research. Intelligent research on an individual requires one read both the positive and the negative. From that, one forms one's own opinion. I hope that helps you understand how intelligent people develop their opinions. Perhaps you might be encouraged to try it for yourself.

It is OBVIOUS I have formed my own opinion, which is different from yours! Please don't say that unless I agree with you I don't think for myself. That's appropriate for democrats and Ron Paulites, I have more respect for you than that.

So, let me get this right. It is perfectly fine for you to claim I haven't formed my own opinion. Yet it is not fine for me to make that claim about you.

Yea. OK. You are dismissed.

 

[Sunshine]

he saved my weekend too.


3 DAYS BITCHES!!!!!!!!

No, he really didn't. We used to get both Washington's birthday and Lincoln's birthday. which were very close together. But they combined those days, called it 'Presidents Day' and set up a day in January to be MLK day. He did not add to our number of holidays.

Many states that had formerly observed Lincoln's birthday have created a joint holiday to honor both Lincoln and George Washington, sometimes calling it "Presidents Day". It coincides with the Federal holiday officially designated "Washington's Birthday", observed on the third Monday of February. There has never been an annual Federal holiday honoring Lincoln.

Lincoln's Birthday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sunshine]

LBJ whacked King and Malcolm X too.

It has also been postulated that he whacked Kennedy as well. Brought him to Dallas. Had him killed.

 

[Ernie S.]

Dr Martin Luther King saved this country
And then the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and barack obama fucked it up again.

 

[Katzndogz]

Do you honestly think that MLK would support today's 'Liberals' attitude towards minorities? Because if you do, you really don't understand what he stood for. He would never support the use of race as a weapon. He would not support the destruction of black communities for partisan politics. He just wouldn't... and that is what today's 'Liberals' to. They abuse minorities for political gain. They do not value minorities as people - minorities are just a 'voting block', a 'special interest' group to be pandered to when they need there votes. Do you think he would be proud of the disproportionate number of minorities on welfare? He wouldn't. And it is your party that has done that. He would be ashamed of today's Democrats.... and of today's Republicans... in my opinion.

MLK was a staunch, dyed in the wool, republican. He was fighting the democrats who were then controlled by the KKK. Back when there was a KKK powerful enough to put George Wallace in office as governor and send Robert Byrd to Washington. The blacks of the time were all republicans. IF MLK woud have opposed what the democrats have done since the civil rights movement of the day, that belief is NOT reflected in any of his fellow activists. That philosophy died along with King or become corrupted. Would King have followed his fellow civil rights activists? That's the question. Sure. He would not have stood alone.

Well no he wasn't. That was his father. He voted for Kennedy.

Public stance on political parties

As the leader of the SCLC, King maintained a policy of not publicly endorsing a U.S. political party or candidate: "I feel someone must remain in the position of non-alignment, so that he can look objectively at both parties and be the conscience of both—not the servant or master of either."[29]

In a 1958 interview, he expressed his view that neither party was perfect, saying, "I don't think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses ... And I'm not inextricably bound to either party."[30]

King critiqued both parties' performance on promoting racial equality:


Actually, the Negro has been betrayed by both the Republican and the Democratic party. The Democrats have betrayed him by capitulating to the whims and caprices of the Southern Dixiecrats. The Republicans have betrayed him by capitulating to the blatant hypocrisy of reactionary right wing northern Republicans. And this coalition of southern Dixiecrats and right wing reactionary northern Republicans defeats every bill and every move towards liberal legislation in the area of civil rights.[31]

Personal political advocacy

Although King never publicly supported a political party or candidate for president, in a letter to a civil rights supporter in October 1956 he said that he was undecided as to whether he would vote for the Adlai Stevenson or Dwight Eisenhower, but that "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket."[32]

In his autobiography, King says that in 1960 he privately voted for Democratic candidate John F. Kennedy: "I felt that Kennedy would make the best president. I never came out with an endorsement. My father did, but I never made one." King adds that he likely would have made an exception to his non-endorsement policy in 1964, saying "Had President Kennedy lived, I would probably have endorsed him in 1964."[33]
Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The problem with Wikipedia is that anyone can come up with anything and put it in there or change it once it is part of Wikipedia.

Robert Kennedy as attorney general was dedicated to destroying King. J. Edgar Hoover was directed by Kennedy to do everything he could, conduct any kind of surveillance to get evidence against King. The democrats were convinced that King was a communist plant. The wiretaps the FBI put on King's phone was at the specific direction of JFK! Jackie Kennedy despised King. She said he was a phony, not to be trusted, tricky.

Now the Kennedy's have been reformulated as supporting King. Revisionist history at its finest.

 

[Katzndogz]

LBJ whacked King and Malcolm X too.

It has also been postulated that he whacked Kennedy as well. Brought him to Dallas. Had him killed.

Did Robert Kennedy use knowledge of mafia dons to make a deal with Frank Liberto to hire Lloyd Jowers to assassinate King? Jowers never got the chance but a Memphis jury in 1999 found him guilty of conspiracy.

There were an awful lot of people who wanted King taken out. At one time, Malcolm X was suspected of his own plot.

 

[California Girl]

This is what MLK said:

I don't think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses ... And I'm not inextricably bound to either party."

Just so we are clear on this. He was not a fucking Republican. Nor was he a fucking Democrat. He was tied to neither party.... just like me. So, if anyone can claim the affiliation of MLK it is 'Independents'.... like me.

Sucks to be hacks, huh?

LMAO.

 

[Truthmatters]

Imagine going into a restaurant and being told you could not sit inside on the tables off of real plates but that you could go around the back and get food in a sack...but still pay the same price for the indignity.
Imagine driving with your kids and being told at a gas station that your kids could not use the restroom
Imagine getting on a bus in the front, paying the driver and having to get off the bus and reenter through the back door so you would not have to walk through the white people

Now, imagine it is 2012 and we have a leading presidential candidate who supports that

Imagine if you stopped lying for political point scoring? Hard, isn't it?

It is what you woule have if businesses were allowed to decide for themselves who they treated how.


It is reality that Paul wants to repeal amendments

 

[The Rabbi]

This is what MLK said:

I don't think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses ... And I'm not inextricably bound to either party."

Just so we are clear on this. He was not a fucking Republican. Nor was he a fucking Democrat. He was tied to neither party.... just like me. So, if anyone can claim the affiliation of MLK it is 'Independents'.... like me.

Sucks to be hacks, huh?

LMAO.

That really isn't much proof, other than he saw teh weaknesses in both parties. He was a Republican because the white establishment around him was Democratic.

 

[Truthmatters]

Is Ron Paul Confused on the 14th Amendment? | Ron Paul 2012 | Peace . Gold . Liberty

 

[California Girl]

This is what MLK said:

I don't think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses ... And I'm not inextricably bound to either party."

Just so we are clear on this. He was not a fucking Republican. Nor was he a fucking Democrat. He was tied to neither party.... just like me. So, if anyone can claim the affiliation of MLK it is 'Independents'.... like me.

Sucks to be hacks, huh?

LMAO.

That really isn't much proof, other than he saw teh weaknesses in both parties. He was a Republican because the white establishment around him was Democratic.

It's his own words. And I tend to go by the words, and the actions of the individual concerned. I do not claim all Democrats are xxxx nor do I claim all Republicans are xxx. I treat people as individuals.

Seems to me, going by King's own words, (and by what I have read about the man), he had little time for either party.

The evidence suggests that King thought independently of 'party'. Much like me.