Dr. Ford should be a Cautionary Tale

[OldLady]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

 

[miketx]

Also, America hating demonrats need to learn what "innocent until proven guilty" means.

 

[Mac1958]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Agree completely, that's the one potential silver lining in this ugly mess.

But it's very possible that we're too busy screaming to learn anything right now.

As usual.
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[Maxdeath]

The biggest problem is the Democrats and the resist Trump decided to weoponize the #me too movement in a misguided attempt at partisan politics. Thanks to that misguided attempt it will be harder for those that have been attacked to come forward and be believed.

 

[night_son]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

All sardonic cynicism aside now, OL, many thanks for an excellent, well expressed piece here on a critical social and cultural and political colossus matter of our time. I've got three nieces ranging in age from elementary to just graduated H.S. and your words should ring resoundingly far for all children like them.

 

[toobfreak]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

 

[OldLady]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?
I very much object to Beyonce type performances but that is what young girls grow up thinking is cool and popular, and when I was a teenager I wore hot pants and platform shoes just like everyone else. I wasn't being a slut. I was being in fashion.

 

[BlackFlag]

The biggest problem is the Democrats and the resist Trump decided to weoponize the #me too movement in a misguided attempt at partisan politics. Thanks to that misguided attempt it will be harder for those that have been attacked to come forward and be believed.

Ooooor a victim of sexual assault spoke out when it appeared a man she knows as a rapist is about to spend decades cirtailing women’s rights.

 

[toobfreak]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?

Did I ever say that? Why can't you at least have a VALID argument? Just because it is WRONG or just because you tell your kids it is WRONG doesn't mean it won't happen. So why INVITE IT? There are two sides to every coin and the other side to this is girls not walking around half naked making guys drool with their tongues hanging out! There is a big difference between looking cute and pretty and dressing like a whore. You don't have to look like a slut to be attractive. Indeed, the "good girls," the ones usually more worth going after usually do dress more conservatively. It all comes down to what parents let their kids look like. No one can walk around half naked then be entirely surprised and blameless if then some kid with hyper-active hormones cannot deal with it. Just as starving people in as mountainous crash site have been known to eat friends to stay alive, hunger, extreme sex drive, lack of money or freezing cold can drive many a person to do crazy, and WRONG things.

 

[OldLady]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?

Did I ever say that? Why can't you at least have a VALID argument? Just because it is WRONG or just because you tell your kids it is WRONG doesn't mean it won't happen. So why INVITE IT? There are two sides to every coin and the other side to this is girls not walking around half naked making guys drool with their tongues hanging out! There is a big difference between looking cute and pretty and dressing like a whore. You don't have to look like a slut to be attractive. Indeed, the "good girls," the ones usually more worth going after usually do dress more conservatively. It all comes down to what parents let their kids look like. No one can walk around half naked then be entirely surprised and blameless if then some kid with hyper-active hormones cannot deal with it. Just as starving people in as mountainous crash site have been known to eat friends to stay alive, hunger, extreme sex drive, lack of money or freezing cold can drive many a person to do crazy, and WRONG things.

^^^ I think my argument in this case was quite valid ^^^^
LOL

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Look people I worked for 20 years investigation of crimes. Anytime you wait to report the crime makes it impossible to solve it. The Crime the Judge was accused of the time factor make it non-crime, you by not reporting it really makes it moot. Only he and she know for sure if it did happen. No court can or would convict. The only thing the left is going to do is use it for drawing it out by hook or crook. Hell it has never been report even as we post about the so call incident.

 

[Maxdeath]

The biggest problem is the Democrats and the resist Trump decided to weoponize the #me too movement in a misguided attempt at partisan politics. Thanks to that misguided attempt it will be harder for those that have been attacked to come forward and be believed.

Ooooor a victim of sexual assault spoke out when it appeared a man she knows as a rapist is about to spend decades cirtailing women’s rights.

Her story had so many holes it it you could fly a 747 through it and not scratch the paint. She lied so many times it was hard to keep track of them. She did not know anything about a polygraph yet coached a friend. All her witnesses said it did not happen. The therapist was so incompetent as to write down four when she said two. The friend that she coached pressured one of the so called witnesses to change her story. Ford wrote a paper on how to use self hypnosis to creat any past memory you want. The polygraph was a travesty. If anything happened to her she would be the most vile and despicable woman alive because she would have chosen to leave a friend alone with not even a word of warning.

Democrats have done a great disservice to the #me too movement with out a moments thought. It is always surprising to the levels that they are willing to go to do the most harm to the people of the U.S.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The biggest problem is the Democrats and the resist Trump decided to weoponize the #me too movement in a misguided attempt at partisan politics. Thanks to that misguided attempt it will be harder for those that have been attacked to come forward and be believed.

Ooooor a victim of sexual assault spoke out when it appeared a man she knows as a rapist is about to spend decades cirtailing women’s rights.

Meanwhile NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED of evidence that her story was true, in fact she lied so much it is hard to remember what the topic was.

 

[OldLady]

Any possibility you could get back to the topic, folks? The great argument is over and we can stop finger pointing now. The decision is made, Kavanaugh will sit on the Supreme Court, for better or worse. So peace, dammit.

Meanwhile, don't forget what I said. Maybe in 50 years this kind of situation will be rare, because those who have been sexually assaulted will feel comfortable enough to come forward WHEN IT HAPPENS.

 

[AZGAL]

how much candy did the dimo liars need to wave in everybodys face to TEMPT us to abandon cherished principles

 

[hjmick]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?

Did I ever say that? Why can't you at least have a VALID argument? Just because it is WRONG or just because you tell your kids it is WRONG doesn't mean it won't happen. So why INVITE IT? There are two sides to every coin and the other side to this is girls not walking around half naked making guys drool with their tongues hanging out! There is a big difference between looking cute and pretty and dressing like a whore. You don't have to look like a slut to be attractive. Indeed, the "good girls," the ones usually more worth going after usually do dress more conservatively. It all comes down to what parents let their kids look like. No one can walk around half naked then be entirely surprised and blameless if then some kid with hyper-active hormones cannot deal with it. Just as starving people in as mountainous crash site have been known to eat friends to stay alive, hunger, extreme sex drive, lack of money or freezing cold can drive many a person to do crazy, and WRONG things.

Clothing is NOT an invitation. To anything. It doesn't matter one iota what someone is wearing, it is never an invitation to sexual assault of any kind. Ever. Got it?

 

[Joann Stubbs]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Told my girls the same rules and why guys are strange at that age. No very bright. I sent to Martial arts also which came in handy at least once. She was the only one of color in the class.

 

[Joann Stubbs]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?

Did I ever say that? Why can't you at least have a VALID argument? Just because it is WRONG or just because you tell your kids it is WRONG doesn't mean it won't happen. So why INVITE IT? There are two sides to every coin and the other side to this is girls not walking around half naked making guys drool with their tongues hanging out! There is a big difference between looking cute and pretty and dressing like a whore. You don't have to look like a slut to be attractive. Indeed, the "good girls," the ones usually more worth going after usually do dress more conservatively. It all comes down to what parents let their kids look like. No one can walk around half naked then be entirely surprised and blameless if then some kid with hyper-active hormones cannot deal with it. Just as starving people in as mountainous crash site have been known to eat friends to stay alive, hunger, extreme sex drive, lack of money or freezing cold can drive many a person to do crazy, and WRONG things.

Clothing is NOT an invitation. To anything. It doesn't matter one iota what someone is wearing, it is never an invitation to sexual assault of any kind. Ever. Got it?

Clothing counts and get attention if you don't think so you need to think somemore about it.

 

[hjmick]

Regardless of the politics, one thing became very clear, not only with Dr. Ford's testimony but with the accusation against Roy Moore. Our girls need to be taught that if they are assaulted, they need to "tell," right then and there. Our boys need to be taught that sexual pleasure cannot be a game of force. And all kids need to have frank discussions with adults they trust about what drinking too much can lead to. Not preaching, but honestly talking about it.

Many of us at USMB are parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, or have close relationships with young people who apparently need to hear the message. It is up to us to steer kids right.

Girls need to understand that even if they made the mistake of going to an underage drinking party and maybe drank too much, it is not a boy's right to force her to do anything against her will. Boys need to understand that girls' privacy and preference needs to be respected. Assault is assault. Boys don't feel that if they drink too much at a party, others have the right to break their nose; there is only a difference because women's rights to their sexuality has not completely moved from the Dark Ages yet.

Hopefully a lot of parents have used this as a teachable moment. Waiting 30 years to tell someone that you were sexually assaulted, whether it was a drunk boy at a party or a priest, is waiting too long. And there is no reason to wait, no reason to be ashamed or afraid.

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?

Did I ever say that? Why can't you at least have a VALID argument? Just because it is WRONG or just because you tell your kids it is WRONG doesn't mean it won't happen. So why INVITE IT? There are two sides to every coin and the other side to this is girls not walking around half naked making guys drool with their tongues hanging out! There is a big difference between looking cute and pretty and dressing like a whore. You don't have to look like a slut to be attractive. Indeed, the "good girls," the ones usually more worth going after usually do dress more conservatively. It all comes down to what parents let their kids look like. No one can walk around half naked then be entirely surprised and blameless if then some kid with hyper-active hormones cannot deal with it. Just as starving people in as mountainous crash site have been known to eat friends to stay alive, hunger, extreme sex drive, lack of money or freezing cold can drive many a person to do crazy, and WRONG things.

Clothing is NOT an invitation. To anything. It doesn't matter one iota what someone is wearing, it is never an invitation to sexual assault of any kind. Ever. Got it?

Clothing counts and get attention if you don't think so you need to think somemore about it.

I don't have to think about shit, you need to back off of justifying sexual assault being okay because of someone's attire. What someone, anyone, wears IS NOT AN INVITATION TO SEXUAL ASSAULT OR RAPE. That is a fact. Deal with it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Right on, OL. You only left one thing out. If girls don't want to send the wrong message, they shouldn't wear skin tight jeans up the crack of their ass and their boobs hanging out or skirts that barely cover their ass. Promiscuous apparel sends the wrong message, and while maybe only wanting to "look sexy," girls are also putting red light sex alerts in a lot of guy's heads. Like sticking your head under the tire of a running car, just as IN THEORY, the brake should hold the car from moving, guys SHOULD control themselves, but that is no guarantee either will. Sometimes when you ask for bad things to happen and gamble they won't, you gamble WRONG.

Toob, when you have that chat with teenaged boys, will you tell them it's okay as long as they are wearing a sexy outfit?

Did I ever say that? Why can't you at least have a VALID argument? Just because it is WRONG or just because you tell your kids it is WRONG doesn't mean it won't happen. So why INVITE IT? There are two sides to every coin and the other side to this is girls not walking around half naked making guys drool with their tongues hanging out! There is a big difference between looking cute and pretty and dressing like a whore. You don't have to look like a slut to be attractive. Indeed, the "good girls," the ones usually more worth going after usually do dress more conservatively. It all comes down to what parents let their kids look like. No one can walk around half naked then be entirely surprised and blameless if then some kid with hyper-active hormones cannot deal with it. Just as starving people in as mountainous crash site have been known to eat friends to stay alive, hunger, extreme sex drive, lack of money or freezing cold can drive many a person to do crazy, and WRONG things.

Clothing is NOT an invitation. To anything. It doesn't matter one iota what someone is wearing, it is never an invitation to sexual assault of any kind. Ever. Got it?

Clothing counts and get attention if you don't think so you need to think somemore about it.

I don't have to think about shit, you need to back off of justifying sexual assault being okay because of someone's attire. What someone, anyone, wears IS NOT AN INVITATION TO SEXUAL ASSAULT OR RAPE. That is a fact. Deal with it.

You can ignore reality all you want, doesn't mean the rest of us have too.