Doomsdayers Stymied Again...Dow UP 1,080

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Dec 27, 5:01 PM EST · ^^^^^^^
Ooops. Bet the liberals didnt see that coming with all their glory hole elation when it was down today 600 points. While they were sucking each other off, the news looked good once again. I love it when "supposed" experts over or under estimate all the time...
 
Yeah, funny how the liberals suddenly went silent again about the stock market as of yesterday, whereas for the previous week they were screaming because of the adjustment, most of which was done by automatic (AI-driven) selling.

When the market began to take off within days of Trump's election, liberals said Trump had nothing to do with it and that it was Obama's doing. When the market boom continued, liberals again said that it was thanks to Obama. But, oh, when there was a drop over the last week, liberals decided that *now* Trump was responsible for the stock market and blamed the drop on him!
 
Yeah, funny how the liberals suddenly went silent again about the stock market as of yesterday, whereas for the previous week they were screaming because of the adjustment, most of which was done by automatic (AI-driven) selling.

When the market began to take off within days of Trump's election, liberals said Trump had nothing to do with it and that it was Obama's doing. When the market boom continued, liberals again said that it was thanks to Obama. But, oh, when there was a drop over the last week, liberals decided that *now* Trump was responsible for the stock market and blamed the drop on him!

Please.

Libs go silent when the market goes up, cons were silent when it was falling.

You really needed to explain to us what practically ALL of us already know?


And the major selling was NOT 'automatic selling'. It was driven because the markets were nervous...as well they should be.

Show me one unbiased report from a respected source that says the December slump is primarily due to 'automatic selling'?


And most of the big jumps today and yesterday were due to pension fund re-balancing.

Pension Panic Sparks Dow's Greatest Point Rise In History
Why Stocks Are Soaring: A Massive, $64 Billion Buy Order
 
The FAANG stocks are becoming information utilities and that is screwing up the investment meme. Stock buy backs are also reinforcing that move,
 
Biggest Buy Order In History Hits, Spiking Stocks... But Is It The Pensions?

Update: and there it is - at precisely 2:39pm, a TICK print of 1775 was registered, signifying the biggest buy program of all time. Now, the only question - is this the real "pension buying" deal... or someone trying to fake out the algos into buying and trapped shorts into covering. The one problem with today's buying fury: a burst of record buy orders only managed to push the Dow Jones 200 points higher, far less than yesterday's 800+ point frenzy, which means that there are far more sellers into this ramp than yesterday.

And another problem: a hint that today's move is merely a fake out is that unlike yesterday's true reallocation out of Treasurys and into stocks, today's the 10Y has barely budged during the stock surge.

"Will they, or won't they" - that's the question on every trader's mind.

In the last two days, massive buy orders driven by pension reallocation trades sent stocks soaring (something even Bloomberg now admits was the catalyst for the surge) in late day trading, and with less than 2 hours left to go in today's session, all traders wanted to know is whether pensions funds would make it a three-peat.

And while we don't know if it is indeed pensions, or someone merely frontrunning today's forced buying - or perhaps just pretending to be them - at precisely 2:05pm, the NYSE TICK - an indicator showing relative strength of buy and sell orders - just hit 1,735, the second highest reading on record, as an absolutely gargnatuan buy order hit...

Biggest Buy Order In History Hits, Spiking Stocks... But Is It The Pensions?


Something fishy is going on. Three days in a row with record-sized, single buy orders? Either pensions are re-balancing still or maybe the someone/something wants the markets up...BADLY.
 
I am actually starting to feel sorry for you.

In a "know not what they do" kind of way.

You're a fag...not interested in your "feelings".....I suggest you chug a bottle of turpentine and see what's next.

So...when confronted with a serious response...you resort to something from childhood...calling him a 'fag'? What the heck would that have to do with the equity markets?

And then you suggest he drink a poisonous drink?

You are taking this WAAAAY too seriously.

It's just a chat forum...relax, sheesh.
 
So...when confronted with a serious response...you resort to something from childhood...calling him a 'fag'? What the heck would that have to do with the equity markets?

And then you suggest he drink a poisonous drink?

You are taking this WAAAAY too seriously.

It's just a chat forum...relax, sheesh.

Do I take the future of this nation "too seriously"? that will never happen. The poster in question is an unadulterated piece of shit who continues to reply to posts not directed to him? with garbage. We don't come here to chat...we come here to destroy the left's lies and distortions about the wonders of communism. It's never worked, it never will, all it does is bring poverty, enslavement, and death to those who've tried it. The stock market creates nothing being a zero-sum game. Somebody buys what somebody else is selling...no wealth is created so it's no more than a game being played with the stinking Fed to fleece the suckers who don't have inside information. Stock tips are how our CONgress Critters are bribed; it's how Pelousy is worth $200M and nobody does anything about it because the FBI is now little more than the gestapo of the Rat party. This is what Trump is up against and why we are in lockstep with him. If he's murdered or overthrown, welcome to civil war #2.
 
So...when confronted with a serious response...you resort to something from childhood...calling him a 'fag'? What the heck would that have to do with the equity markets?

And then you suggest he drink a poisonous drink?

You are taking this WAAAAY too seriously.

It's just a chat forum...relax, sheesh.

Do I take the future of this nation "too seriously"? that will never happen. The poster in question is an unadulterated piece of shit who continues to reply to posts not directed to him? with garbage. We don't come here to chat...we come here to destroy the left's lies and distortions about the wonders of communism. It's never worked, it never will, all it does is bring poverty, enslavement, and death to those who've tried it. The stock market creates nothing being a zero-sum game. Somebody buys what somebody else is selling...no wealth is created so it's no more than a game being played with the stinking Fed to fleece the suckers who don't have inside information. Stock tips are how our CONgress Critters are bribed; it's how Pelousy is worth $200M and nobody does anything about it because the FBI is now little more than the gestapo of the Rat party. This is what Trump is up against and why we are in lockstep with him. If he's murdered or overthrown, welcome to civil war #2.

1) you are underestimating the importance of the equity markets. Sure, the Fed is manipulating them now. But that has only been since 2008 or so. Before that the stock market was, and will be again, an important part of the economy.

2) You made a post agreeing with Mac. Then when he did not agree with you, you got more and more angry/hostile towards him. Your behavior was not controlled and rational...it was unbalanced and wild.
You are aware he started a thread on how much the left has lost it, right? I don't know what he is...but it clearly ain't a 'lefty'.

Your 'mission' is obviously to come here and take out your real life frustrations on others while hiding behind your keyboard.
And that's (sadly, more-of-less) basically what most chat forums seem to be about.
But when you start freaking out on people simply for their positions, acting juvenile (calling him 'gay'...jeez, talk about grace-school insults - silly and pointless) and then openly suggesting for him to commit suicide (by drinking turpentine)?
You are going WAAAY too far and taking this WAAAAY to fucking seriously.
NOTHING on a chat forum justifies wishing physical harm on someone...that shows you more have the problem then him (and he gets on my nerves too - with his condescending attitude).

Anyway, enough of this.

You need a new hobby...try exercise.

We are done here and I will not read your inevitable reply to me on this as clearly you are too far gone at this time to reason with.

Have a nice day.
 
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Your 'mission' is obviously to come here and take out your real life frustrations on others while hiding behind your keyboard.
And that's (sadly, more-of-less) basically what most chat forums seem to be about.
So very true. However, from my perspective as an ex stock broker I can assure you all attempts at arriving at a logical theory of how the market works these days are doomed to failure. Maybe long experience and something like instinct moderated by a sly understanding of how todays automated (autonomous?) market software and it’s unpredictable, instantaneous influences upon prices could help but it’s still always a case of buyer ( and seller) beware.
Then there's the wonderfully unpredictable power of placing rumours in the right place at the right time ( whispering in the exchange lift at 8am is often effective) that simply can’t ever be predicted and all bets are off. Enjoy the monkey fight kiddies but don’t bitch when you lose everything.
 

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