Don't you love how they say REMAINS at 7.8% unemployment!!!

[boedicca]

Here's why it's relevant:

The Employment-population ration was 62.4M in July 2008. By December 2012, it declined to 58.6%.

3.8% is no longer employed. That's why tax receipts are down and the deficit is will never come back under control. We need economic growth that generates Real Private Sector Jobs - something Obamanomics is unable to produce.

Yup. You are correct. We need tax cuts. That works well, eh. Lets see. Didn't that work well for Reagan. Yeah. That's the ticket. Some good old supply side economics, like reagan used. Dropped taxes at the beginning of his term, and the UE went......OOPS. UP. To the highest rate since the great depression. Up to 10.8%. So, we should do what he did then. More tax decreases, right??? Yeah, that's the ticket. That solved the problem, right. Oh, no. He RAISED taxes 11 times. And borrowed enough to nearly triple the national debt. Used a lot of the new revenue for Stimulus. And grew the federal government. Made the fed gov way bigger than when he came to power.

But that worked well. UE rate went down. Paid off some of the deficit. And had a good economy. Soo, that is what you are suggesting, eh, boedicca. Raise taxes and spend stimulatively. Like Reagan did.

But now I AM confused. That is pretty much what Obama is suggesting. Raise taxes and use the revenue for stimulus spending.

16M jobs were created during Reagan's two terms. How much net job creation has there been since the start of Obama's presidency?

 

[Rozman]

Obama has it made...
He goes on stage and says whatever Valerie Jarrett and Michelle come up with the night before.
He does his little stand up routine.
He sings a little bit.
His adoring fans don't even give a rat's ass what he just said.
The media doesn't challenge him ever...

It's a great gig.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Obama has it made...
He goes on stage and says whatever Valerie Jarrett and Michelle come up with the night before.
He does his little stand up routine.
He sings a little bit.
His adoring fans don't even give a rat's ass what he just said.
The media doesn't challenge him ever...

It's a great gig.

it like he said in his book, being a half-white, non-threatening black man works really well on guilt ridden white America! He can do as well with the economy as FDR and they'll still love him. Barry is the reason for term limits!!

 

[Rshermr]

Here's why it's relevant:

The Employment-population ration was 62.4M in July 2008. By December 2012, it declined to 58.6%.

3.8% is no longer employed. That's why tax receipts are down and the deficit is will never come back under control. We need economic growth that generates Real Private Sector Jobs - something Obamanomics is unable to produce.

Yup. You are correct. We need tax cuts. That works well, eh. Lets see. Didn't that work well for Reagan. Yeah. That's the ticket. Some good old supply side economics, like reagan used. Dropped taxes at the beginning of his term, and the UE went......OOPS. UP. To the highest rate since the great depression. Up to 10.8%. So, we should do what he did then. More tax decreases, right??? Yeah, that's the ticket. That solved the problem, right. Oh, no. He RAISED taxes 11 times. And borrowed enough to nearly triple the national debt. Used a lot of the new revenue for Stimulus. And grew the federal government. Made the fed gov way bigger than when he came to power.

But that worked well. UE rate went down. Paid off some of the deficit. And had a good economy. Soo, that is what you are suggesting, eh, boedicca. Raise taxes and spend stimulatively. Like Reagan did.

But now I AM confused. That is pretty much what Obama is suggesting. Raise taxes and use the revenue for stimulus spending.

16M jobs were created during Reagan's two terms. How much net job creation has there been since the start of Obama's presidency?

23M jobs were created during the Clinton admin. So, me poor ignorant con, what you are not willing to take into effect was that neither clinton nor reagan came into power during the great republican recession of 2008. So, lets look at the presidents since FDR. I know you are kringing, cause you know you are caught. Here you go:

FDR Total: +15.69 million (estimated total)

Truman Total: +8.70 million jobs

Ike Total: +3.54 million jobs

JFK Partial term: +3.57 million jobs

LBJ Total: +12.18 million jobs

Nixon Total: +9.18 million jobs

Ford Partial term: +2.07 million jobs

Carter First term: +10.34 million jobs

Reagan Total: +16.10 million jobs

George H.W. Bush First term: +2.59 million jobs

Bill Clinton, Total +22.74 million jobs

George W. Bush Total: 1.31 million jobs

From a standing standpoint:
1. Clinton
2. Reagan
3. LBJ/kennedy
4. FDR
5. Nixon/Ford
6. Carter (Only 4 years)
7. Truman
8. HW Bush
9. W Bush

All numbers above from: http://www.ibtimes.com/us-presidents-which-party-create-more-jobs-democratic-or-republican-408508

And at this point, Obama has surpassed W Bush for jobs created with 4 years to go.

So, maybe you should think long and hard before you bring up job creation again, my con friend.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So, maybe you should think long and hard before you bring up job creation again, my con friend.

of course Republicans will always create more jobs because they are pro business. Democrats are anti business so tax and regulate business more. How on earth could that create more jobs?? Would you choke a man and then claim you were helping him to breath??

As for FDR creating the most jobs you must be crazy. He actually ruled during the Great Depression!! Did you ever go to HS??

Here's what Henry Morgenthau, FDR's Secretary of the Treasury (the man who desperately needed the New Deal to succeed as much as Roosevelt) said about the New Deal stimulus: "We have tried spending money.We are spending more than we ever have spent before and it does not work... We have never made good on our promises...I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!"

"The New Republic"( at the time a FDR greatest supporter") noted. In June 1939, the federal public works programs still supported almost 19 million people, nearly 15% of the population" [page 313]

In fact in 1939, unemployment was at 17%, and there were 11 million additional in stimulus make work welfare jobs. Today when the population is 2.5 times greater we have only 8 million unemployed. Conclusion: legislation to make Democrats illegal
is urgently needed

 

[pinqy]

In fact in 1939, unemployment was at 17%, and there were 11 million additional in stimulus make work welfare jobs. Today when the population is 2.5 times greater we have only 8 million unemployed. Conclusion: legislation to make Democrats illegal
is urgently needed

WPA jobs were still considered unemployed.
And current unemployment is 12 million.

 

[Rshermr]

So, maybe you should think long and hard before you bring up job creation again, my con friend.

of course Republicans will always create more jobs because they are pro business. Democrats are anti business so tax and regulate business more. How on earth could that create more jobs?? Would you choke a man and then claim you were helping him to breath??

As for FDR creating the most jobs you must be crazy. He actually ruled during the Great Depression!! Did you ever go to HS??

Here's what Henry Morgenthau, FDR's Secretary of the Treasury (the man who desperately needed the New Deal to succeed as much as Roosevelt) said about the New Deal stimulus: "We have tried spending money.We are spending more than we ever have spent before and it does not work... We have never made good on our promises...I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!"

"The New Republic"( at the time a FDR greatest supporter") noted. In June 1939, the federal public works programs still supported almost 19 million people, nearly 15% of the population" [page 313]

In fact in 1939, unemployment was at 17%, and there were 11 million additional in stimulus make work welfare jobs. Today when the population is 2.5 times greater we have only 8 million unemployed. Conclusion: legislation to make Democrats illegal
is urgently needed

Uh, ed. Get back to your meds. Maybe you will then be able to read and add. If you did, you would see that dem presidents oversaw over two times as many jobs created as republicans. And, me boy, you would see that FDR was not number 1, but number 4. The worst two were repubs, the two Bush's.

It is ok, however, ed. We understand that you are delusional. Not your fault. Just plain bad luck.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

dem presidents oversaw over two times as many jobs created as republicans.

1) How is that possible when Democrats are anti business???

2) Clinton was tops at job creation but that was because he inherited a boom from Bush 41 and because Republicans took over the House for first time in 40 years and made Clinton lie and say " the era of big government is over?

In sum, presidents don't create jobs, governments do and previous policy does!! Still over your head??

See why we say a liberal will be slow??