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did you forget the republican gave us income tax / or are you going to blame Obama or clinton ?
without it how could we have a government , how could we have a military ,
DEA , FDA , and more , where do you suspect the money to support our country come from ?
a republican with his hand out to china ? for yet more money ?
During the administration of President George W. Bush, the gross public debt increased from $5.7 trillion in January 2001 to $10.7 trillion by December 2008. Under President Barack Obama, the debt increased from $10.7 trillion to $14.2 trillion by February 2011.
$5 trillion under Bush in 8 years and $3.5 trillion under Obama in 2 years and 1 month. It will only take Obama 3 years to pass Bush and 40% of the money is borrowed.
While Bush took over with a Budget surplus, Obama came to office with the worse recession since the Great Depression and two unfunded wars, handed to him. Right...
Soak the rich? No way. The top tax rate in 1913 was 7% levied on income over a half million dollars, about 10 million in todays dollars.
After the amendment passed the tax rate was ridiculously low at 7%. Today the top marginal tax rate is the lowest in 20 years.Soak the rich? No way. The top tax rate in 1913 was 7% levied on income over a half million dollars, about 10 million in todays dollars.
Congressman Cordell Hull (D-Tenn., and later Secretary of State under FDR) saw exactly what was happening. He took the floor to excoriate the Republican leaders. Said he:
"No person at all familiar with the present trend of national legislation will seriously insist that these same Republican leaders are over-anxious to see the country adopt an income tax...What powerful influence, what new light and deepseated motive suddenly moves these political veterans to 'about face' and pretend to warmly embrace this doctrine which they have heretofore uniformly denounced?" {1}
He went on to expose what he considered to be a political trick. He needn't have been so concerned. The slogan of "soak the rich" automatically aroused Pavlovian salivation among politicians both in Washington and the states. The Senate approved the Sixteenth Amendment with an astonishing unanimity of 77-0! The House approved it by a vote of 318-14.
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After the amendment passed the tax rate was ridiculously low at 7%. Today the top marginal tax rate is the lowest in 20 years.Soak the rich? No way. The top tax rate in 1913 was 7% levied on income over a half million dollars, about 10 million in todays dollars.
Congressman Cordell Hull (D-Tenn., and later Secretary of State under FDR) saw exactly what was happening. He took the floor to excoriate the Republican leaders. Said he:
"No person at all familiar with the present trend of national legislation will seriously insist that these same Republican leaders are over-anxious to see the country adopt an income tax...What powerful influence, what new light and deepseated motive suddenly moves these political veterans to 'about face' and pretend to warmly embrace this doctrine which they have heretofore uniformly denounced?" {1}
He went on to expose what he considered to be a political trick. He needn't have been so concerned. The slogan of "soak the rich" automatically aroused Pavlovian salivation among politicians both in Washington and the states. The Senate approved the Sixteenth Amendment with an astonishing unanimity of 77-0! The House approved it by a vote of 318-14.
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Since the Repug shitheads like branding their party as the party that freed slaves why not slap their with a little of their own medicine
Heather Cox Richardson: Don't Forget: Republicans Created Income Taxes
After the Southern Democrats seceded from the Union in 1861, Republicans dominated Congress. Immediately, they reinstated the old tariff duties Democrats had dropped, erecting tariff walls around the entire U.S. economy. But these tariffs could only stabilize the peacetime budget. The financial maw of the Civil War required an entirely new revenue system, and Republicans set out to create it.
Their guiding principle was to spread the burden of taxation evenly throughout society. They believed that the survival of the nation would benefit all Americans, so everyone should support the government to the best of their ability, "not upon each man an equal amount," a leading Republican explained, "but a tax proportionate to his ability to pay."
First, they placed taxes on all manufactured goods. Together with the tariffs, these taxes on consumer goods -- essentially sales taxes -- would fall disproportionately on working-class Americans.
To counteract this regressive tax, Republicans invented the national income tax. This was a wildly new idea in 1861, when most people tallied their income and expenses item to item, rather than thinking of their income as a yearly number. Congressmen shook their heads at the difficulty of figuring out how much money they made in 12 months. But levying a tax on income would guarantee that "the burdens will be more equalized on all classes of the community, more especially on those who are able to bear them," said a senator from a wealthy eastern state when he introduced the novel plan.
Congress adopted the income tax in 1861, placing a tax of 3 percent on incomes over $800. Then in 1862, it made the tax progressive, levying a tax of 3 percent for incomes over $600 a year and of 5 percent for incomes over $10,000. To collect the tax, the Republican Congress created an Internal Revenue Bureau in the Treasury Department.
this is more proof that the Repug shitheads of today are nothing like the Republicans of the 1850s and 1860s, the Repugs they like gloating about who freed the slaves.
I don't think the idea of soaking rich caught on till the great depression. when the wealthy were blamed for the disaster.After the amendment passed the tax rate was ridiculously low at 7%. Today the top marginal tax rate is the lowest in 20 years.
Congressman Cordell Hull (D-Tenn., and later Secretary of State under FDR) saw exactly what was happening. He took the floor to excoriate the Republican leaders. Said he:
"No person at all familiar with the present trend of national legislation will seriously insist that these same Republican leaders are over-anxious to see the country adopt an income tax...What powerful influence, what new light and deepseated motive suddenly moves these political veterans to 'about face' and pretend to warmly embrace this doctrine which they have heretofore uniformly denounced?" {1}
He went on to expose what he considered to be a political trick. He needn't have been so concerned. The slogan of "soak the rich" automatically aroused Pavlovian salivation among politicians both in Washington and the states. The Senate approved the Sixteenth Amendment with an astonishing unanimity of 77-0! The House approved it by a vote of 318-14.
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There was great social unrest and the idea of a tax to "soak the rich" began to take root among liberals in both major parties.
When the first income tax was sent out to the people, the Congress chortled confidently that "all good citizen will willingly and cheerfully support and sustain this, the fairest and cheapest of all taxes." That was the cute little monkey part. After all, the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $20,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $500,000. Who could complain? (Ed. note: Expressed in 1994 dollars this sentence would read, "the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $298,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $7,460,000.").
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Conservatism in the US prior to 1950's was basically a philosophy that embraced traditionalism. Until the mid 20th century almost every major milestone in our history, both good and bad, was due to the work of liberals. Goldwater in 50's, Reagan in 80's, and their followers defined conservatism as we know it today.
Prior to the late 20th century, there were a number of liberals and conservatives in each party. Often coalitions would form to pass major legislation. In the last half of the 20th century, the Republican party became the Conservative party and Democratic party became the Liberal party.
I don't think the idea of soaking rich caught on till the great depression. when the wealthy were blamed for the disaster.After the amendment passed the tax rate was ridiculously low at 7%. Today the top marginal tax rate is the lowest in 20 years.
There was great social unrest and the idea of a tax to "soak the rich" began to take root among liberals in both major parties.
When the first income tax was sent out to the people, the Congress chortled confidently that "all good citizen will willingly and cheerfully support and sustain this, the fairest and cheapest of all taxes." That was the cute little monkey part. After all, the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $20,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $500,000. Who could complain? (Ed. note: Expressed in 1994 dollars this sentence would read, "the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $298,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $7,460,000.").
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Conservatism in the US prior to 1950's was basically a philosophy that embraced traditionalism. Until the mid 20th century almost every major milestone in our history, both good and bad, was due to the work of liberals. Goldwater in 50's, Reagan in 80's, and their followers defined conservatism as we know it today.That is my whole point.
It is Liberals who passed Federal income taxes and it is liberals today who are taxing the hell out of people as you put it,GoneBezerk.
A large majority of people want to either get rid of IRS or make it simpler.
We do all agreed that we need income tax.
Prior to the late 20th century, there were a number of liberals and conservatives in each party. Often coalitions would form to pass major legislation. In the last half of the 20th century, the Republican party became the Conservative party and Democratic party became the Liberal party.
Republicans still have conservative, moderates and liberals. Liberal Democrats ousted the Conservatives in the 90's by not putting them in certain committees and not allowing them certain clout of anything. Then in 09 and 10 Liberals took over the moderates and conservatives by doing back room deals,twisting arms and making deals to help them get reelected, which they did not do and conservative Dem's got voted out.It was conservative Dem's who bought that line and voted for the health care bill. Dem's have become the party of liberals only and moderate and conservatives need not apply. And then they had the audacity to come on talk shows and say that they were the party of inclusiveness,that was dropped quickly because it did not fly.
Republicans still have conservative, moderates and liberals. Liberal Democrats ousted the Conservatives in the 90's by not putting them in certain committees and not allowing them certain clout of anything. Then in 09 and 10 Liberals took over the moderates and conservatives by doing back room deals,twisting arms and making deals to help them get reelected, which they did not do and conservative Dem's got voted out.It was conservative Dem's who bought that line and voted for the health care bill. Dem's have become the party of liberals only and moderate and conservatives need not apply. And then they had the audacity to come on talk shows and say that they were the party of inclusiveness,that was dropped quickly because it did not fly.
you had better see Dean about this.....in sure he will say your full of it.....and then proceed to give you the speech about how Democrats have every type in their party while Republicans only have White people who are Religious Right Wingers.....
I don't think the idea of soaking rich caught on till the great depression. when the wealthy were blamed for the disaster.There was great social unrest and the idea of a tax to "soak the rich" began to take root among liberals in both major parties.
When the first income tax was sent out to the people, the Congress chortled confidently that "all good citizen will willingly and cheerfully support and sustain this, the fairest and cheapest of all taxes." That was the cute little monkey part. After all, the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $20,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $500,000. Who could complain? (Ed. note: Expressed in 1994 dollars this sentence would read, "the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $298,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $7,460,000.").
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But now we know that the disaster was caused by the government involvement in the economy via the Federal Reserve Board.
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It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.
Republicans just seem to love income taxes.
Founding of the countryConservatism in the US prior to 1950's was basically a philosophy that embraced traditionalism. Until the mid 20th century almost every major milestone in our history, both good and bad, was due to the work of liberals. Goldwater in 50's, Reagan in 80's, and their followers defined conservatism as we know it today.
Prior to the late 20th century, there were a number of liberals and conservatives in each party. Often coalitions would form to pass major legislation. In the last half of the 20th century, the Republican party became the Conservative party and Democratic party became the Liberal party.
What you call "milestones" are more like headstones in the graveyard of society.
There will always be a few renegades in each party. Conservatives were a strong voice in the Democratic Party until the late 60's. The Republican party was controlled by liberals in the 60's. Since then the two parties have essentially become the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party. Each party has become more idealogical to the point that Congress is at best ineffective.Conservatism in the US prior to 1950's was basically a philosophy that embraced traditionalism. Until the mid 20th century almost every major milestone in our history, both good and bad, was due to the work of liberals. Goldwater in 50's, Reagan in 80's, and their followers defined conservatism as we know it today.That is my whole point.
It is Liberals who passed Federal income taxes and it is liberals today who are taxing the hell out of people as you put it,GoneBezerk.
A large majority of people want to either get rid of IRS or make it simpler.
We do all agreed that we need income tax.
Prior to the late 20th century, there were a number of liberals and conservatives in each party. Often coalitions would form to pass major legislation. In the last half of the 20th century, the Republican party became the Conservative party and Democratic party became the Liberal party.
Republicans still have conservative, moderates and liberals. Liberal Democrats ousted the Conservatives in the 90's by not putting them in certain committees and not allowing them certain clout of anything. Then in 09 and 10 Liberals took over the moderates and conservatives by doing back room deals,twisting arms and making deals to help them get reelected, which they did not do and conservative Dem's got voted out.It was conservative Dem's who bought that line and voted for the health care bill. Dem's have become the party of liberals only and moderate and conservatives need not apply. And then they had the audacity to come on talk shows and say that they were the party of inclusiveness,that was dropped quickly because it did not fly.
Founding of the countryConservatism in the US prior to 1950's was basically a philosophy that embraced traditionalism. Until the mid 20th century almost every major milestone in our history, both good and bad, was due to the work of liberals. Goldwater in 50's, Reagan in 80's, and their followers defined conservatism as we know it today.
Prior to the late 20th century, there were a number of liberals and conservatives in each party. Often coalitions would form to pass major legislation. In the last half of the 20th century, the Republican party became the Conservative party and Democratic party became the Liberal party.
What you call "milestones" are more like headstones in the graveyard of society.
Freeing the slaves
Louisiana Purchase
Right to Vote for Women
etc...
You call these Headstones?
So the Repubs used to be patriotic but now they're only patriotic to big business. What happened to them?
