Don't Forget: Republicans Created Income Taxes

It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.

Republicans just seem to love income taxes.

Since you're so opposed to income taxes, then why don't you lobby for the repeal of the 16th Amendment?

Republicans only voted for the 16th Amendment because they thought the states would never go for it. That wouldn't be the first time Republicans got snookered. They aren't called "the stupid party" for nothing.
 
It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.

Republicans just seem to love income taxes.

The first three sentences are absolutely correct and the fourth is absolute bullshit.

As I recall, 44 of the 48 states ratified the 16th Amendment so it wasn't entirely a Republican decision.

With two exceptions, Republicans have consistently argued for and have succeeded in lowering income tax rates for the last 50 years.

One exception was JFK who lowered tax rates and George H W Bush, who raised taxes on the promise by the Democrats that they would cut $3 in spending for every $1 in taxes, then laughed and said we were just kidding.

And, I challenge you to find ONE Democrat on this board, in the Congress or in the Administration that doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich.
 
As was pointed out in this thread by TooTall, Democrat President Woodrow Wilson created what we call income taxes. Deal with it shithead.

Republicans created a tax based on a percentage of your income. We can't call that an income tax, of course, because it would require us to be intellectually honest.

The income tax passed by the Republicans was a temporary tax passed to finance the civil war and less than 1% of the population paid it. Is that intellectually honest enough for you?

The Confederacy also collected income taxes. It authorized its first national income tax measure in 1863. The Confederate bill that finally passed after great debate was a graduated income tax. It exempted wages up to $1,000, levied a 1% tax on the first $1,500 over the exemption, and 2% on all additional income.

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hmmmmm....
 
Since the Repug shitheads like branding their party as the party that freed slaves why not slap their with a little of their own medicine

Heather Cox Richardson: Don't Forget: Republicans Created Income Taxes


After the Southern Democrats seceded from the Union in 1861, Republicans dominated Congress. Immediately, they reinstated the old tariff duties Democrats had dropped, erecting tariff walls around the entire U.S. economy. But these tariffs could only stabilize the peacetime budget. The financial maw of the Civil War required an entirely new revenue system, and Republicans set out to create it.

Their guiding principle was to spread the burden of taxation evenly throughout society. They believed that the survival of the nation would benefit all Americans, so everyone should support the government to the best of their ability, "not upon each man an equal amount," a leading Republican explained, "but a tax proportionate to his ability to pay."

First, they placed taxes on all manufactured goods. Together with the tariffs, these taxes on consumer goods -- essentially sales taxes -- would fall disproportionately on working-class Americans.

To counteract this regressive tax, Republicans invented the national income tax. This was a wildly new idea in 1861, when most people tallied their income and expenses item to item, rather than thinking of their income as a yearly number. Congressmen shook their heads at the difficulty of figuring out how much money they made in 12 months. But levying a tax on income would guarantee that "the burdens will be more equalized on all classes of the community, more especially on those who are able to bear them," said a senator from a wealthy eastern state when he introduced the novel plan.

Congress adopted the income tax in 1861, placing a tax of 3 percent on incomes over $800. Then in 1862, it made the tax progressive, levying a tax of 3 percent for incomes over $600 a year and of 5 percent for incomes over $10,000. To collect the tax, the Republican Congress created an Internal Revenue Bureau in the Treasury Department.


this is more proof that the Repug shitheads of today are nothing like the Republicans of the 1850s and 1860s, the Repugs they like gloating about who freed the slaves.
It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.

Republicans just seem to love income taxes.

Sorry President Wilson was a Democrat.
 
Since the Repug shitheads like branding their party as the party that freed slaves why not slap their with a little of their own medicine

Heather Cox Richardson: Don't Forget: Republicans Created Income Taxes





this is more proof that the Repug shitheads of today are nothing like the Republicans of the 1850s and 1860s, the Repugs they like gloating about who freed the slaves.
It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.

Republicans just seem to love income taxes.

Sorry President Wilson was a Democrat.
Nope. William Howard Taft was president from 1909 through 1913. The tax was proposed in 1909 by Taft and passed by both houses in 1909. It was ratified by the states in 1913.

The legislatures of the following states rejected the amendment without ever subsequently ratifying it:
Connecticut
Rhode Island
Utah
The legislatures of the following states never considered the proposed amendment:
Florida
Pennsylvania
Virginia

Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Yes, you are right but,
Liberals (progressives) tried to take over the Republican party first with President Roosevelt and President Taft. Both were progressives.
President Wilson also was another progressive.
Liberals were unsuccessful in taking over the republican party so they took over the Democrat party.
As I have stated in other posts we have progressives in both parties.
It is liberal ideology that has always been for big government.
And it was progressives (Liberals) who voted for and passed the sixteenth amendment.
 
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Yes, you are right but,
Liberals (progressives) tried to take over the Republican party first with President Roosevelt and President Taft. Both were progressives.
President Wilson also was another progressive.
Liberals were unsuccessful in taking over the republican party so they took over the Democrat party.
As I have stated in other posts we have progressives in both parties.
It is liberal ideology that has always been for big government.
And it was progressives (Liberals) who voted for and passed the sixteenth amendment.
Not buts about it..

The income tax was proposed by a Republican president and passed by a Republican controlled Congress.
 
Yes, you are right but,
Liberals (progressives) tried to take over the Republican party first with President Roosevelt and President Taft. Both were progressives.
President Wilson also was another progressive.
Liberals were unsuccessful in taking over the republican party so they took over the Democrat party.
As I have stated in other posts we have progressives in both parties.
It is liberal ideology that has always been for big government.
And it was progressives (Liberals) who voted for and passed the sixteenth amendment.
Not buts about it..

The income tax was proposed by a Republican president and passed by a Republican controlled Congress.

Yep, by liberals.
 
Typical argument of an idiot.

Who cares who made income taxes, most people don't oppose income taxes...they oppose Democrats trying to tax the hell out of people that will help the economy while giving their tax money to lazy ass people.

Since the Repug shitheads like branding their party as the party that freed slaves why not slap their with a little of their own medicine


After the Southern Democrats seceded from the Union in 1861, Republicans dominated Congress. Immediately, they reinstated the old tariff duties Democrats had dropped, erecting tariff walls around the entire U.S. economy. But these tariffs could only stabilize the peacetime budget. The financial maw of the Civil War required an entirely new revenue system, and Republicans set out to create it.

Their guiding principle was to spread the burden of taxation evenly throughout society. They believed that the survival of the nation would benefit all Americans, so everyone should support the government to the best of their ability, "not upon each man an equal amount," a leading Republican explained, "but a tax proportionate to his ability to pay."

First, they placed taxes on all manufactured goods. Together with the tariffs, these taxes on consumer goods -- essentially sales taxes -- would fall disproportionately on working-class Americans.

To counteract this regressive tax, Republicans invented the national income tax. This was a wildly new idea in 1861, when most people tallied their income and expenses item to item, rather than thinking of their income as a yearly number. Congressmen shook their heads at the difficulty of figuring out how much money they made in 12 months. But levying a tax on income would guarantee that "the burdens will be more equalized on all classes of the community, more especially on those who are able to bear them," said a senator from a wealthy eastern state when he introduced the novel plan.

Congress adopted the income tax in 1861, placing a tax of 3 percent on incomes over $800. Then in 1862, it made the tax progressive, levying a tax of 3 percent for incomes over $600 a year and of 5 percent for incomes over $10,000. To collect the tax, the Republican Congress created an Internal Revenue Bureau in the Treasury Department.


this is more proof that the Repug shitheads of today are nothing like the Republicans of the 1850s and 1860s, the Repugs they like gloating about who freed the slaves.
 
They allow name calling on this board? Too bad.

I enjoy more intellegent debate.

LOL intelligent debate , thats a good one ,
we have teabagers and republican along with democrats

Yes, because no one is intelligent, except you. Which just shows us how woeful this world is when someone who can't write proper sentences things he is the only really smart person.

Oh God , lol when have I ever claimed to be intelligent ?
if I were why would I be here, much less talk to you ?

writing is just that , its not thinking its not experience ,

how sad if you judge people only on grammar .
 
whats wrong with income tax ? that pays for federal programs the military defence in general . infrastructure , property tax pays for school and state needs .

no free lunch , we have to pay soon or later for our convinces .

The income tax is the left's principle tool of class warfare, organized plunder and social engineering. Without it, they couldn't plunder anyone who works hard for a living for the benefit of the tics on the ass of society. They would also have a far more difficult time micromanaging our behavior.

did you forget the republican gave us income tax / or are you going to blame Obama or clinton ?


without it how could we have a government , how could we have a military ,
DEA , FDA , and more , where do you suspect the money to support our country come from ?

a republican with his hand out to china ? for yet more money ?
 
That is my whole point.
It is Liberals who passed Federal income taxes and it is liberals today who are taxing the hell out of people as you put it,GoneBezerk.
A large majority of people want to either get rid of IRS or make it simpler.
We do all agreed that we need income tax.
 
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It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.

Republicans just seem to love income taxes.

Since you're so opposed to income taxes, then why don't you lobby for the repeal of the 16th Amendment?

Republicans only voted for the 16th Amendment because they thought the states would never go for it. That wouldn't be the first time Republicans got snookered. They aren't called "the stupid party" for nothing.

The Sixteenth Amendment was a "soak the rich" scheme which exempted 95% Of Americans.

But Lincoln imposed the 1st income tax in order to pay for the war of northern aggression.

The 16th Amendment has nothing to do with wage withholding.

In 1942 FDR imposed a VICTORY TAX- a direct tax on income which can be levied for a maximum of two years in cases of emergency. The welfare/warfare state loved the extra revenue so much that they kept it. No constitutional authority. Just because the federales are armed and dangerous.

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writing is just that , its not thinking its not experience ,

how sad if you judge people only on grammar .

on a message board how else can you do it......:eusa_eh:......if you cant put a sentence together.....you come off looking stupid.....and unless your from some non-English speaking Country.....you come off as pretty dam uneducated....
 
did you forget the republican gave us income tax / or are you going to blame Obama or clinton ?


without it how could we have a government , how could we have a military ,
DEA , FDA , and more , where do you suspect the money to support our country come from ?
a republican with his hand out to china ? for yet more money ?

During the administration of President George W. Bush, the gross public debt increased from $5.7 trillion in January 2001 to $10.7 trillion by December 2008. Under President Barack Obama, the debt increased from $10.7 trillion to $14.2 trillion by February 2011.

$5 trillion under Bush in 8 years and $3.5 trillion under Obama in 2 years and 1 month. It will only take Obama 3 years to pass Bush and 40% of the money is borrowed.
 
this is more proof that the Repug shitheads of today are nothing like the Republicans of the 1850s and 1860s, the Repugs they like gloating about who freed the slaves.
Yeah.....a lot has changed, since then.....​

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"Now, if your job paid $50,000 a year and you stayed at it for 47 years, your tally for a lifetime of work would be $2.4 million. Not bad — but hedge fund hustler John Paulson pulled down that much last year.

Most of us would consider an annual income of $2.4 million to be a windfall, but it didn't take Paulson a full 12 months of work to pocket his windfall — or one month, a week, or even a day. That's how much he made an hour. Yes, Paulson could've worked one single hour in 2010 and hauled off a paycheck equal to what a typical household gets for a lifetime of work.

Now guess who gets the lower tax rate — the $50,000-a-year family or the $2.4 million-an-hour Wall Street man? Right. Thanks to a loophole big enough to drive an armored truck through, billionaire hedge fund dealers like Paulson escape the usual 35 percent tax rate, instead paying (at most) 15 percent.

That's more than wrong — it's immoral."

 
That is my whole point.
It is Liberals who passed Federal income taxes and it is liberals today who are taxing the hell out of people as you put it,GoneBezerk.
A large majority of people want to either get rid of IRS or make it simpler.
We do all agreed that we need income tax.
Conservatism in the US prior to 1950's was basically a philosophy that embraced traditionalism. Until the mid 20th century almost every major milestone in our history, both good and bad, was due to the work of liberals. Goldwater in 50's, Reagan in 80's, and their followers defined conservatism as we know it today.

Prior to the late 20th century, there were a number of liberals and conservatives in each party. Often coalitions would form to pass major legislation. In the last half of the 20th century, the Republican party became the Conservative party and Democratic party became the Liberal party.
 
It was found unconstitutional in 1895. The 16th amendment, passed in 1913 is the basis for today's income tax. Also passed under a Republican president.

Republicans just seem to love income taxes.

Since you're so opposed to income taxes, then why don't you lobby for the repeal of the 16th Amendment?

Republicans only voted for the 16th Amendment because they thought the states would never go for it. That wouldn't be the first time Republicans got snookered. They aren't called "the stupid party" for nothing.

The Sixteenth Amendment was a "soak the rich" scheme which exempted 95% Of Americans.

But Lincoln imposed the 1st income tax in order to pay for the war of northern aggression.

The 16th Amendment has nothing to do with wage withholding.

In 1942 FDR imposed a VICTORY TAX- a direct tax on income which can be levied for a maximum of two years in cases of emergency. The welfare/warfare state loved the extra revenue so much that they kept it. No constitutional authority. Just because the federales are armed and dangerous.

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Soak the rich? No way. The top tax rate in 1913 was 7% levied on income over a half million dollars, about 10 million in todays dollars.
 
did you forget the republican gave us income tax / or are you going to blame Obama or clinton ?


without it how could we have a government , how could we have a military ,
DEA , FDA , and more , where do you suspect the money to support our country come from ?
a republican with his hand out to china ? for yet more money ?

During the administration of President George W. Bush, the gross public debt increased from $5.7 trillion in January 2001 to $10.7 trillion by December 2008. Under President Barack Obama, the debt increased from $10.7 trillion to $14.2 trillion by February 2011.

$5 trillion under Bush in 8 years and $3.5 trillion under Obama in 2 years and 1 month. It will only take Obama 3 years to pass Bush and 40% of the money is borrowed.

While Bush took over with a Budget surplus, Obama came to office with the worse recession since the Great Depression and two unfunded wars, handed to him. Right...:doubt:
 

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