Don't Blame Gingrich for the Ballot Fiasco - He's Just a Victim of Fraud.

[Luddly Neddite]

One guy turned in One Thousand Five Hundred fraudulent signatures?

What?

Newt's got lil Jimmy O'Keefe working for him?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

On a campaign stop at an Algona chocolate store, the former House speaker said the "mistake" occurred because one of their workers committed fraud.

"We hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 – we needed 10,000 – 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.

Imagine that, it’s so ACORN-esque.

"At the request of the state GOP, the board voted to close the primary. A voter who wants to cast a primary ballot must first sign a pledge of intent to support the Republican nominee in November."

And what if someone ‘violates’ the ‘pledge’ and votes for Obama? How is anyone even going to know if someone ‘violates’ the ‘pledge’? Will that republican’s vote for Obama be thrown out? Do republicans know this would be illegal and un-Constitutional, or do they simply not care?

Are all republicans this stupid or only in VA?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

You gotta hand it to Newt - He's not really all that smarter than the others but he bluffs reeel gud.

Frankly, I feel bad for Calista. Can you imagine living with that blowhard? Hope those diamonds are worth it.

I'm thinking she enjoys the sparkle of the diamonds as she's quietly praying she never gets stricken with cancer or MS.

The diamonds and the hope that her husband will change his mind and actually go for the presidency.

As it is, she's gonna need plastic surgery on that mouth from so much frozen grinning.

Way too much like poor little rich Cindy McCain.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

On a campaign stop at an Algona chocolate store, the former House speaker said the "mistake" occurred because one of their workers committed fraud.

"We hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 – we needed 10,000 – 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.

Imagine that, it’s so ACORN-esque.

"At the request of the state GOP, the board voted to close the primary. A voter who wants to cast a primary ballot must first sign a pledge of intent to support the Republican nominee in November."

And what if someone ‘violates’ the ‘pledge’ and votes for Obama? How is anyone even going to know if someone ‘violates’ the ‘pledge’? Will that republican’s vote for Obama be thrown out? Do republicans know this would be illegal and un-Constitutional, or do they simply not care?

Are all republicans this stupid or only in VA?

The voters think it would be illegal only if the GObP paid them for their "support" and that its okay if its the voters who are paying (off) the 1% in order to keep them in the 1%.

BTW, has anyone seen this pledge yet?

Oughta make an interesting read.

 

[paulitician]

Gingrich can't win. This may have been fraud but it doesn't matter. He's the wrong guy at the wrong time. It's all over.

 

[paperview]

On a campaign stop at an Algona chocolate store, the former House speaker said the "mistake" occurred because one of their workers committed fraud.

"We hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 – we needed 10,000 – 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.

Imagine that, it’s so ACORN-esque.

"At the request of the state GOP, the board voted to close the primary. A voter who wants to cast a primary ballot must first sign a pledge of intent to support the Republican nominee in November."

And what if someone ‘violates’ the ‘pledge’ and votes for Obama? How is anyone even going to know if someone ‘violates’ the ‘pledge’? Will that republican’s vote for Obama be thrown out? Do republicans know this would be illegal and un-Constitutional, or do they simply not care?

Are all republicans this stupid or only in VA?

I'd go with the former.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Wow, PPV has an amazing jones for Gringrich. He is not my favorite person either. But PPV is carrying on a crusade as if Newt is the love child of Henry VIII and Forrest Gump.

 

[paperview]

Wow, PPV has an amazing jones for Gringrich. He is not my favorite person either. But PPV is carrying on a crusade as if Newt is the love child of Henry VIII and Forrest Gump.

He's not only a low life cheating, slime, skunk, deadbeatdad, reptilian pathalogical liar,, he's a megalomaniacal freak in his political and social views and downright scary.

He should be exposed for the every bit of revolt that he is.

Sue me.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

NO skin off of my nose, but it is kind of disturbing to see someone ordinarily calm, sensible and good humored so totally off the rails about just one more scheming politician. They are none of them worth that level of corrosive angst. Whatever the source of this, you need to let it go, as it really is very unhealthy.


Not to say you are wrong, of course. He may be all that. But you need to keep yourself healthy and balanced. he is not worth it.

 

[paperview]

NO skin off of my nose, but it is kind of disturbing to see someone ordinarily calm, sensible and good humored so totally off the rails about just one more scheming politician. They are none of them worth that level of corrosive angst. Whatever the source of this, you need to let it go, as it really is very unhealthy.


Not to say you are wrong, of course. He may be all that. But you need to keep yourself healthy and balanced. he is not worth it.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'm having a blast.

Newt himself is presenting himself to be the self-immolating, chicken skinned, detestable creature I've known he was for the last 20 years. It's give me great joy to see others see it now too.

We are facing a very important election.

He is an evil and dangerous man and to help expose him further gives me joy.

I am happy as a lark honey. You have no idea.

 

[oreo]

Now he's citing Fraud.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...signature-fraud-cost-slot-on-virginia-ballot/

Gingrich: Campaign worker's signature fraud cost slot on Virginia ballot

Posted by
CNN Political Producer Shawna ShepherdAlgona, Iowa (CNN) - Newt Gingrich cited fraud Wednesday as the reason he didn't get on the Virginia primary ballot.

On a campaign stop at an Algona chocolate store, the former House speaker said the "mistake" occurred because one of their workers committed fraud.

"We hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 – we needed 10,000 – 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.

TRENDING: Gingrich: Campaign worker’s signature fraud cost slot on Virginia ballot – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs



Poor Nootie. can't cut a break/

(love the chocolate connection. lol) (For those who didn't see it, this is a Romney Tweet joke)

Really the smartest candidates--were Bachmann--Huntsman and Santorum--who didn't even bother going into Virginia to collect signatures to get on Virginia's primary ballot--- They knew they could possibly waste a lot of time and money collecting signatures only to get booted off by the state GOP.

The most obvious point here is that Romney, Gingrich, Perry, and Paul would seem to have better campaign organizations than the other candidates. Even Gingrich, whose ability to get on the ballot in several states had been in question, managed to pull this off. (Although, as Doug also noted, Gingrich and Perry could still be disqualified.)

The more interesting and important point, though, is the absurdity of the process.
It’s a core teaching of American Politics 101 classes that there are no national elections in the United States. President of the United States and Vice President of the United States are national offices but we elect our presidents and vice presidents via 51 state elections (counting DC, per the 23rd Amendment), each of which (as we learned quite painfully following the 2000 election) have their own rules.

The primaries are even more bizarre. Despite the fact that we’re choosing candidates for a national office, we have an arcane process wherein the two major parties set rules and then try to enforce them on 50-plus states, districts, and territories–often without much success. The various states and other delegate-awarding entities are in competition with each other for influence on the process. Those entities must contend with the traditions that put Iowa and New Hampshire in an absurdly favorable position and where South Carolina thinks it’s next in line. And, inexplicably, each of the entities sets conditions for ballot access that seem quite whimsical and have little relation to the national race and on timetables that have no real relation to the increasingly fluid primary calendar.

That the two major political parties don’t control the primary calendar for nominating their candidates is beyond silly. Worse, however, is the fact that they don’t even control who’s on the ballot for their highest office. In a rational system, candidates would simply have to qualify one time to get on the Republican presidential ballot. Instead, candidates have to spend an absurd amount of time and money getting petitions signed and jumping through other hoops set by states and other delegate-awarding entities.

The Virginia Primary Ballot and the Absurdity of the System

In Virginia the state GOP decided that not only do you need 10K signatures--you are required to get 400 hundred out of all the 11 districts within that state. Now imagine having to do that in predominately registered democrat territory--- Democrats and non-registered voters--would be signing every GOP candidates petition with full knowledge that the GOP candidate is going to get booted off the ballot--by the state GOP election board.

In my opinion--the State GOP in the state of VIRGINIA needs to be wearing bags over their heads about right now. They are ABSURD--and the perception is--is that they have rigged their primary--by technically eliminating 6 out of 8 GOP candidates. And they can wear their badge well. With their insanity they have disenfranchised GOP voters all over that state for NOT being able to cast a vote for a candidate of their own choosing. The state GOP in Virginia deserves the butterfly ballot award that was held by Broward county in Florida--LOL.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Gingrich can't win. This may have been fraud but it doesn't matter. He's the wrong guy at the wrong time. It's all over.

It was over before it began - minus the media hype

 

[Inthemiddle]

Now he's citing Fraud.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...signature-fraud-cost-slot-on-virginia-ballot/

Gingrich: Campaign worker's signature fraud cost slot on Virginia ballot

Posted by
CNN Political Producer Shawna ShepherdAlgona, Iowa (CNN) - Newt Gingrich cited fraud Wednesday as the reason he didn't get on the Virginia primary ballot.

On a campaign stop at an Algona chocolate store, the former House speaker said the "mistake" occurred because one of their workers committed fraud.

"We hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 – we needed 10,000 – 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.

TRENDING: Gingrich: Campaign worker’s signature fraud cost slot on Virginia ballot – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs



Poor Nootie. can't cut a break/

(love the chocolate connection. lol) (For those who didn't see it, this is a Romney Tweet joke)

Really the smartest candidates--were Bachmann--Huntsman and Santorum--who didn't even bother going into Virginia to collect signatures to get on Virginia's primary ballot--- They knew they could possibly waste a lot of time and money collecting signatures only to get booted off by the state GOP.

The most obvious point here is that Romney, Gingrich, Perry, and Paul would seem to have better campaign organizations than the other candidates. Even Gingrich, whose ability to get on the ballot in several states had been in question, managed to pull this off. (Although, as Doug also noted, Gingrich and Perry could still be disqualified.)

The more interesting and important point, though, is the absurdity of the process.
It’s a core teaching of American Politics 101 classes that there are no national elections in the United States. President of the United States and Vice President of the United States are national offices but we elect our presidents and vice presidents via 51 state elections (counting DC, per the 23rd Amendment), each of which (as we learned quite painfully following the 2000 election) have their own rules.

The primaries are even more bizarre. Despite the fact that we’re choosing candidates for a national office, we have an arcane process wherein the two major parties set rules and then try to enforce them on 50-plus states, districts, and territories–often without much success. The various states and other delegate-awarding entities are in competition with each other for influence on the process. Those entities must contend with the traditions that put Iowa and New Hampshire in an absurdly favorable position and where South Carolina thinks it’s next in line. And, inexplicably, each of the entities sets conditions for ballot access that seem quite whimsical and have little relation to the national race and on timetables that have no real relation to the increasingly fluid primary calendar.

That the two major political parties don’t control the primary calendar for nominating their candidates is beyond silly. Worse, however, is the fact that they don’t even control who’s on the ballot for their highest office. In a rational system, candidates would simply have to qualify one time to get on the Republican presidential ballot. Instead, candidates have to spend an absurd amount of time and money getting petitions signed and jumping through other hoops set by states and other delegate-awarding entities.

The Virginia Primary Ballot and the Absurdity of the System

In Virginia the state GOP decided that not only do you need 10K signatures--you are required to get 400 hundred out of all the 11 districts within that state. Now imagine having to do that in predominately registered democrat territory--- Democrats and non-registered voters--would be signing every GOP candidates petition with full knowledge that the GOP candidate is going to get booted off the ballot--by the state GOP election board.

In my opinion--the State GOP in the state of VIRGINIA needs to be wearing bags over their heads about right now. They are ABSURD--and the perception is--is that they have rigged their primary--by technically eliminating 6 out of 8 GOP candidates. And they can wear their badge well. With their insanity they have disenfranchised GOP voters all over that state for NOT being able to cast a vote for a candidate of their own choosing. The state GOP in Virginia deserves the butterfly ballot award that was held by Broward county in Florida--LOL.

Amazing. Gingrich himself admits that he fell short because of his staff. And yet you STILL rally around this BS.

 

[JimH52]

Newt is a victim of being a lazy slug, who knew the law but ignored it.

 

[Zoom]

Now he's citing Fraud.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...signature-fraud-cost-slot-on-virginia-ballot/

Gingrich: Campaign worker's signature fraud cost slot on Virginia ballot

Posted by
CNN Political Producer Shawna ShepherdAlgona, Iowa (CNN) - Newt Gingrich cited fraud Wednesday as the reason he didn't get on the Virginia primary ballot.

On a campaign stop at an Algona chocolate store, the former House speaker said the "mistake" occurred because one of their workers committed fraud.

"We hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 – we needed 10,000 – 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.

TRENDING: Gingrich: Campaign worker’s signature fraud cost slot on Virginia ballot – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs



Poor Nootie. can't cut a break/

(love the chocolate connection. lol) (For those who didn't see it, this is a Romney Tweet joke)

Really the smartest candidates--were Bachmann--Huntsman and Santorum--who didn't even bother going into Virginia to collect signatures to get on Virginia's primary ballot--- They knew they could possibly waste a lot of time and money collecting signatures only to get booted off by the state GOP.

The most obvious point here is that Romney, Gingrich, Perry, and Paul would seem to have better campaign organizations than the other candidates. Even Gingrich, whose ability to get on the ballot in several states had been in question, managed to pull this off. (Although, as Doug also noted, Gingrich and Perry could still be disqualified.)

The more interesting and important point, though, is the absurdity of the process.
It’s a core teaching of American Politics 101 classes that there are no national elections in the United States. President of the United States and Vice President of the United States are national offices but we elect our presidents and vice presidents via 51 state elections (counting DC, per the 23rd Amendment), each of which (as we learned quite painfully following the 2000 election) have their own rules.

The primaries are even more bizarre. Despite the fact that we’re choosing candidates for a national office, we have an arcane process wherein the two major parties set rules and then try to enforce them on 50-plus states, districts, and territories–often without much success. The various states and other delegate-awarding entities are in competition with each other for influence on the process. Those entities must contend with the traditions that put Iowa and New Hampshire in an absurdly favorable position and where South Carolina thinks it’s next in line. And, inexplicably, each of the entities sets conditions for ballot access that seem quite whimsical and have little relation to the national race and on timetables that have no real relation to the increasingly fluid primary calendar.

That the two major political parties don’t control the primary calendar for nominating their candidates is beyond silly. Worse, however, is the fact that they don’t even control who’s on the ballot for their highest office. In a rational system, candidates would simply have to qualify one time to get on the Republican presidential ballot. Instead, candidates have to spend an absurd amount of time and money getting petitions signed and jumping through other hoops set by states and other delegate-awarding entities.

The Virginia Primary Ballot and the Absurdity of the System

In Virginia the state GOP decided that not only do you need 10K signatures--you are required to get 400 hundred out of all the 11 districts within that state. Now imagine having to do that in predominately registered democrat territory--- Democrats and non-registered voters--would be signing every GOP candidates petition with full knowledge that the GOP candidate is going to get booted off the ballot--by the state GOP election board.

In my opinion--the State GOP in the state of VIRGINIA needs to be wearing bags over their heads about right now. They are ABSURD--and the perception is--is that they have rigged their primary--by technically eliminating 6 out of 8 GOP candidates. And they can wear their badge well. With their insanity they have disenfranchised GOP voters all over that state for NOT being able to cast a vote for a candidate of their own choosing. The state GOP in Virginia deserves the butterfly ballot award that was held by Broward county in Florida--LOL.

"Really the smartest candidates--were Bachmann"