DOJ is suing Gallup: No poll ever to be beleived now

[Plasmaball]

"gallup violated the false claims act by giving the government inflated estimates of the number of hours that it would take to perform its services, even though it had separate and lower internal estimates of the number of hours that would be required. The complaint further alleges that the government paid gallup based on the inflated estimates, rather than gallup’s lower internal estimates."

republicans don't want to see the false claims act enforced? Color me surprised.

wtf?
you can't be serious you want these people prying on our free speech this way..If this the case then we should SUE Obama

That's not what is happening...bloody hell go stick your head between the door and door frame and slam the door over and over again.don't worry you wont damage anything.

 

[blackhawk]

So in other words, because Gallup reported the same convention bounce that every other pollster reported, it had to have been rigged.

No one said it was rigged but are going to try and claim that if the DOJ under a Republican President was suing a pollster just a few months before the election the left would not be questioning that and some in fact raising bloody hell over it?

 

[AmyNation]

*facepalm*

 

[Plasmaball]

Republicans are so cute when they all get the orders to parrot the same conspiracy theory. When it happens, you can see them all bleating the same thing in unison, all across the internet.

Let's look a the conspiracy theory. Axelrod, a campaign advisor who is paid to make political statements, made a political statement about Gallup. According to the kooks, Axelrod simply saying the poll was inaccurate somehow qualifies as "The Obama adminstriation is leaning on Gallup". And thus this proves an old minor lawsuit about overcharging, something that would only get Gallup fined, was really politically motivated. Craft, those Democrats, to have started the plot all those years earlier.

Why can't the right come up with better conspiracy theories? I mean, what would even the point be of getting Gallup to report better polls, since polls don't win elections?

Lib dweebs like manfoot here can't even track the conversation.

I looked at the OP. I investigated what it said. As it turns out, the Administration's Dept. of Justice DID join in on a qui tam suit filed by a whistle-blower against Gallup.

That whistle-blower suit alleged that Gallup was essentially engaged in a scheme to defraud the government based on deliberate miscalculations of the amount of time required to engage in polling activity and charging (in advance) for those inflated estimated hours.

The claims of the whistle-blower might have some validity or they might not. But it is POLITICALLY suspect for the Administration to join in THIS particular qui tam suit.

Close your eyes to that fact, manfoot. You'll sleep better tonight, you lib-sheep drone. But I guaranfuckingtee you that if the shoe were on the other foot and it was a GOP Administration aiding some whistle-blower to "investigate' Gallup after Gallup had been critical of the Republican Administration's "numbers," you'd be up in arms over it.

We all know it too.

Oh stop it, its not suspect just because you nitwits think it is.

 

[peach174]

So in other words, because Gallup reported the same convention bounce that every other pollster reported, it had to have been rigged.

DOJ filed the suite against Gallup on Aug. 22,2012 before the Dem's convention.
If you would have read the report you would have known this.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I simply stated the facts. It's now the obligation of the conspiracy theorists to refute them.

That is, please post your examples of the Obama administration "leaning" on Gallup, and your evidence that Gallup rigged polls as a result of such pressure. Note that "But it could possibly be true, and I want it to be true!" probably would not qualify as good evidence.

Your 'facts' are like your asshole, totally fucked, full of shit, and stink like hell.

 

[Plasmaball]

I simply stated the facts. It's now the obligation of the conspiracy theorists to refute them.

That is, please post your examples of the Obama administration "leaning" on Gallup, and your evidence that Gallup rigged polls as a result of such pressure. Note that "But it could possibly be true, and I want it to be true!" probably would not qualify as good evidence.

Your 'facts' are like your asshole, totally fucked, full of shit, and stink like hell.

Then id suggest removing your face from his ass..just a tip.

 

[AmyNation]

This lawsuit was started by a former employee who says gallop overcharged our government. So we should just ignore a pollster breaking the law because an election is coming up soon?

 

[blackhawk]

"gallup violated the false claims act by giving the government inflated estimates of the number of hours that it would take to perform its services, even though it had separate and lower internal estimates of the number of hours that would be required. The complaint further alleges that the government paid gallup based on the inflated estimates, rather than gallup’s lower internal estimates."

republicans don't want to see the false claims act enforced? Color me surprised.

wtf?
you can't be serious you want these people prying on our free speech this way..If this the case then we should SUE Obama

That's not what is happening...bloody hell go stick your head between the door and door frame and slam the door over and over again.don't worry you wont damage anything.

If your going to post the story post all of it or the link don't just cut and paste what you like and leave out parts like this.

William Kruse, associate counsel with Gallup, said the polling firm finds the lawsuit “shocking.”
“We’re just shocked the Department of Justice would pursue this kind of a meritless claim,” he told POLITICO.
The government, Kruse said, “had a chance to vet these prices in advance and now, years later, they want to come back and say they should have been charged less for them.”
“We look forward to the Justice Department explaining itself in court,” he added.


Read more: Margin of error: DOJ sues Gallup - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com

 

[gallantwarrior]

This lawsuit was started by a former employee who says gallop overcharged our government. So we should just ignore a pollster breaking the law because an election is coming up soon?

Just why in fucking hell are our tax dollars being wasted on polls in the first place?

 

[Stephanie]

ah, I see our resident troll showed up...yawn

 

[bigrebnc1775]

??????

doj suing gallop - Bing

I had already predicted new levels of pettiness. Reminds me of Del............

obama defenders will say it's nothing.
PICKET: Internal e-mails: Axelrod intimidated Gallup before DOJ lawsuit surfaced against polling company - Washington Times

 

[mamooth]

It's clear at this point that the righties understand how they're going to lose. That's why they're shifting to damage control, pre-positioning a list of excuses explaining why they lost.

Vote fraud!

Rigged Polls!

Military vote suppressed!

Righties, anything else you want to add to the list? After all, it couldn't be you'll lose because your candidates and message stink. Conspiracies are the only possible explanation!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"gallup violated the false claims act by giving the government inflated estimates of the number of hours that it would take to perform its services, even though it had separate and lower internal estimates of the number of hours that would be required. The complaint further alleges that the government paid gallup based on the inflated estimates, rather than gallup’s lower internal estimates."

republicans don't want to see the false claims act enforced? Color me surprised.

wtf?
you can't be serious you want these people prying on our free speech this way..If this the case then we should SUE Obama

That's not what is happening...bloody hell go stick your head between the door and door frame and slam the door over and over again.don't worry you wont damage anything.

Gawd I'm good.

 

[AmyNation]

It's clear at this point that the righties understand how they're going to lose. That's why they're shifting to damage control, pre-positioning a list of excuses explaining why they lost.

Vote fraud!

Rigged Polls!

Military vote suppressed!

Righties, anything else you want to add to the list? After all, it couldn't be you'll lose because your candidates and message stink. Conspiracies are the only possible explanation!

You forgot media bias.

 

[Liability]

This lawsuit was started by a former employee who says gallop overcharged our government. So we should just ignore a pollster breaking the law because an election is coming up soon?

Just why in fucking hell are our tax dollars being wasted on polls in the first place?

That might be appropriate in some cases. I can't say its wrong for a representative form of government to take a read on the view of the people on some measures it is contemplating.

But it is fascinating that after agreeing to a contract price, suddenly now, years later, the government is willing to throw in with a whistle-blower and say there is some merit to the proposition that the government ACCEPTED a contract that charged them too much.

And of course, it's just a coincidence (nothing to see here) that it involves an organization that has criticized some numbers coming out of the same Administration.

The fact that it has such an overwhelming stench, at this point, of being politically motivated SHOULD have led the government to take a different position. Their action now has the aura of being politically motivated. And I'd bet a dollar it is.

 

[Plasmaball]

wtf?
you can't be serious you want these people prying on our free speech this way..If this the case then we should SUE Obama

That's not what is happening...bloody hell go stick your head between the door and door frame and slam the door over and over again.don't worry you wont damage anything.

If your going to post the story post all of it or the link don't just cut and paste what you like and leave out parts like this.

William Kruse, associate counsel with Gallup, said the polling firm finds the lawsuit “shocking.”
“We’re just shocked the Department of Justice would pursue this kind of a meritless claim,” he told POLITICO.
The government, Kruse said, “had a chance to vet these prices in advance and now, years later, they want to come back and say they should have been charged less for them.”
“We look forward to the Justice Department explaining itself in court,” he added.


Read more: Margin of error: DOJ sues Gallup - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com

That's nice, what does that have to do with stepth claiming free speech issues?
Oh it doesn't you say and has to do with pricing? No shit,yeah she is quite stupid.

 

[Plasmaball]

wtf?
you can't be serious you want these people prying on our free speech this way..If this the case then we should SUE Obama

That's not what is happening...bloody hell go stick your head between the door and door frame and slam the door over and over again.don't worry you wont damage anything.

Gawd I'm good.

No your not. I never said it wasn't nothing, I said it wasn't a free speech issue you fucking moron.

 

[Dick Tuck]

Give people a pass, when they're stealing from our tax dollars? Are you people really this fucking stupid, or is it that you're really this desperate?

 

[J.E.D]

As others have pointed out, it has nothing to do with poll numbers.

The Department of Justice on Wednesday joined a lawsuit against Gallup after a whistle-blower alleged the organization overcharged the government for polling services.
The whistle-blower lawsuit, filed by a former Gallup employee, claims the firm gave the government inflated estimates for polling services and made federal agencies pay far more than what Gallup’s internal estimates called for, the DOJ announced .


Read more: Margin of error: DOJ sues Gallup - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com