DOJ asked to investigate ID voter laws

[WillowTree]

The poll was from 2011. The other link was from 1986, and is essentially irrelevant. Unless of course Truthmatters can show articles like that every year since 1986. Then he might have a point.

This shit just makes me laugh

I do not disagree


Also, I notice that as soon as I asked for his personal opinion on the reason for the 12% who said they were prevented from voting, and some facts to back it up, Truthmatters left the thread.


I'm new here... is that normal behavior?

She's still lurking. Her green light is on. I think she just stuck her head back up her backside.

 

[Anachronism]

The vote is sacred and you want less people to vote.

Ah ha.... NOW we find the root of your misunderstanding!!!!..... Please tell me how an ideal that originally only allowed white males who owned property to vote makes the concept "Sacred".

The idea was never for the unwashed masses to be involved in the voting, TM. It's only in the last century that we've lost our ever-loving minds and started allowing every Tom, Dick, Jane, and Shaniqua to vote.

 

[Truthmatters]

I'm not sure if your talking to me or not but ill respond anyhow.

Let me give you some COLD HARD FACTS:

Red wine is good for your heart.

Red wine can cause liver cancer

Exercise common sense when consuming red wine.


Why is it so hard to understand that everyone can claim FACTS for their position that may prove their point but when mixed with a little caution common sense can prevail.
I will concede that a lazy person may not get to vote if he was too lazy to get an id. But that was HIS CHOICE. As I stated exceptions to the rule could be included but all your interested in is holding your hard line position.

So you just ignore the republicans saying they dont want everyone to vote in their own words ON TAPE????????????

yes, I don't care what some political idiot said. I care about the protections the law would provide.

These people are leaders in the repoublican party

 

[Truthmatters]

New York Times/CBS News Poll: 2012 Republicans, Obama and the Economy - Document - NYTimes.com


Look on page 30 the second part of question 92


12% said they were prevented from voting

Maybe the high price of gas prevented them from voting?
Maybe heavy rain prevented them from voting?
Maybe a really bad hangover prevented them from voting?
Maybe the warden prevented them from voting, until their sentence was completed?

Without more information, that poll question is useless.

No it is not usless.


There are people in the US who have been prevented from voting.

There are studies that show the ID laws prevent people from voting.

There is a long court documented history of the republican party cheating in elections.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So you just ignore the republicans saying they dont want everyone to vote in their own words ON TAPE????????????

yes, I don't care what some political idiot said. I care about the protections the law would provide.

These people are leaders in the repoublican party

It could be the potus for all I care. All that matters is if this law would protect the American voter from fraud and help to ensure fair elections. Don't you get it? If you think that politician is corrupt in some fashion deal with him not his legislation. Unless the legislation has a detrimental impact that out weighs the positive. Simple really...

 

[kaz]

There are studies that show the ID laws prevent people from voting.

There is a long court documented history of the republican party cheating in elections.

I like how Democrats don't want people to have to show ID to vote, and that proves it's "republicans" who cheat. Gotcha. Logic, not a liberal core competence.

Isn't it ironic when you look at the history of blacks would have done to vote before the civil war or women before suffrage or the long lines and danger Iraqis and Afghanis go through to vote today or the majority of the world still who can't cast a meaningful vote at all and Democrats are so lazy that spending an hour before an election to get a free ID is like trying to get someone past the Berlin wall? The same reason Democrats vote for the candidate who promises the most of other people's money. But hey, if some politician will do it for you, why even work to steal?

 

[Truthmatters]

Then why have you not supplied the facts which prove this type of voter fraud exsists?

 

[Truthmatters]

where is your proof people?


You never show any.

Yet you ignore study after study and pretend the court documents showing the republican party cheating year after year decade after decade means nothing.

 

[kaz]

Then why have you not supplied the facts which prove this type of voter fraud exsists?

Irrelevant. Fraud can exist, ID solves that. And there is no reason not to show ID except to commit fraud. If someone is too lazy to get an ID then I don't see how their vote could possibly be informed. An uninformed voter is exactly what the Democrats want, which is why they are so insistent on somethings so idiotic.

I also like how when Democrats get 50% plus one you are then allowed to ram socialism down the country's throat because it's a democracy, but when 80% of Americans think they should check IDs at polls suddenly there's a new standard, we have to prove there is fraud rather then just preventing it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

New York Times/CBS News Poll: 2012 Republicans, Obama and the Economy - Document - NYTimes.com


Look on page 30 the second part of question 92


12% said they were prevented from voting

Maybe the high price of gas prevented them from voting?
Maybe heavy rain prevented them from voting?
Maybe a really bad hangover prevented them from voting?
Maybe the warden prevented them from voting, until their sentence was completed?

Without more information, that poll question is useless.

No it is not usless.


There are people in the US who have been prevented from voting.

There are studies that show the ID laws prevent people from voting.

There is a long court documented history of the republican party cheating in elections.

SO F'ING WHAT
If their are idiots capable of getting or using an id to vote where id is required and they chose not to, then that's their problem.

Id laws do not discriminate based on any factor other than sheer laziness. There are safeguards for people who lost their id's or just moved because I've had it happen to me and I was still allowed to cast a provisional ballet. Safeguards could be put in for the elderly if their isn't already. It's a non issue except for those that intend to commit voter fraud.

 

[Truthmatters]

There is no fraud worth the money this will cost.

Bush's DOJ Searched and searched and found next to nothing

 

[kaz]

Yet you ignore study after study and pretend the court documents showing the republican party cheating year after year decade after decade means nothing.

Wow, talk about pulled out of your ass...

 

[kaz]

There is no fraud worth the money this will cost.

Bush's DOJ Searched and searched and found next to nothing

What it will cost to check ID? Say what?

 

[Truthmatters]

Maybe the high price of gas prevented them from voting?
Maybe heavy rain prevented them from voting?
Maybe a really bad hangover prevented them from voting?
Maybe the warden prevented them from voting, until their sentence was completed?

Without more information, that poll question is useless.

No it is not usless.


There are people in the US who have been prevented from voting.

There are studies that show the ID laws prevent people from voting.

There is a long court documented history of the republican party cheating in elections.

SO F'ING WHAT
If their are idiots capable of getting or using an id to vote where id is required and they chose not to, then that's their problem.

Id laws do not discriminate based on any factor other than sheer laziness. There are safeguards for people who lost their id's or just moved because I've had it happen to me and I was still allowed to cast a provisional ballet. Safeguards could be put in for the elderly if their isn't already. It's a non issue except for those that intend to commit voter fraud.

Your opinions are worthless next to the facts.

PROVIDE some facts.

 

[Truthmatters]

Yet you ignore study after study and pretend the court documents showing the republican party cheating year after year decade after decade means nothing.

Wow, talk about pulled out of your ass...

Then go read the thread from the start.

I have been providing studies and video and court documented facts.

What have you provided except personal insults?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

New York Times/CBS News Poll: 2012 Republicans, Obama and the Economy - Document - NYTimes.com


Look on page 30 the second part of question 92


12% said they were prevented from voting

Maybe the high price of gas prevented them from voting?
Maybe heavy rain prevented them from voting?
Maybe a really bad hangover prevented them from voting?
Maybe the warden prevented them from voting, until their sentence was completed?

Without more information, that poll question is useless.

No it is not usless.


There are people in the US who have been prevented from voting.

There are studies that show the ID laws prevent people from voting.

I know you're a liberal and therefore not very smart, but a poll saying people were prevented from voting is not proof legal voters were actually prevented from voting.

You never commented about the Mexican assassin who registered to vote, twice.
Why not? What are you afraid of?

 

[Truthmatters]

why do you pretend that all the other evidence I provided doesnt exsist?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

No it is not usless.


There are people in the US who have been prevented from voting.

There are studies that show the ID laws prevent people from voting.

There is a long court documented history of the republican party cheating in elections.

SO F'ING WHAT
If their are idiots capable of getting or using an id to vote where id is required and they chose not to, then that's their problem.

Id laws do not discriminate based on any factor other than sheer laziness. There are safeguards for people who lost their id's or just moved because I've had it happen to me and I was still allowed to cast a provisional ballet. Safeguards could be put in for the elderly if their isn't already. It's a non issue except for those that intend to commit voter fraud.

Your opinions are worthless next to the facts.

PROVIDE some facts.

I DON'T NEED FACTS, I'VE GOT COMMON SENSE.

Without an id "i" could vote in multiple districts if I knew other registered voters names
With an id "i" would get caught

Is that so hard to comprehend? Stop being stupid.

 

[Truthmatters]

You dont need facts?


good thing becausse you have none.

You dont have common sense you have partisan hate

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Truthmatters you should read your own Sig and apply it now. Otherwise your just a bloviating idiot.