DOJ Admits FBI Never Saw Crowdstrike Report on DNC Russian Hacking Claim…

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The foundation for the Russian election interference narrative is built on the claim of Russians hacking the servers of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and subsequently releasing damaging emails that showed the DNC worked to help Hillary Clinton and eliminate Bernie Sanders.

Despite the Russian ‘hacking’ claim the DOJ previously admitted the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server. Instead the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.



The narrative around the DNC hack claim was always sketchy; many people believe the DNC email data was downloaded onto a flash drive and leaked. In a court filing (full pdf below) the scale of sketchy has increased exponentially.

Suspecting they could prove the Russian hacking claim was false, lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission. Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the Crowdstrike report.

Yes, that is correct. The FBI and DOJ were only allowed to see a “draft” report prepared by Crowdstrike, and that report was redacted… and that redacted draft is the “last version of the report produced”; meaning, there are no unredacted & final versions.

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!


This means the FBI and DOJ, and all of the downstream claims by the intelligence apparatus; including the December 2016 Joint Analysis Report and January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, all the way to the Weissmann/Mueller report and the continued claims therein; were based on the official intelligence agencies of the U.S. government and the U.S. Department of Justice taking the word of a hired contractor for the Democrat party….. despite their inability to examine the server and/or actually see an unredacted technical forensic report from the investigating contractor.

The entire apparatus of the U.S. government just took their word for it…

…and used the claim therein as an official position….

…which led to a subsequent government claim, in court, of absolute certainty that Russia hacked the DNC.

Think about that for a few minutes.

The full intelligence apparatus of the United States government is relying on a report they have never even been allowed to see or confirm; that was created by a paid contractor for a political victim that would not allow the FBI to investigate their claim.

The DNC server issue is foundation, and cornerstone, of the U.S. government’s position on “Russia hacking” and the election interference narrative; and that narrative is based on zero factual evidence to affirm the U.S. government’s position.

…”the government does not need to prove at the defendant’s trial that the Russians hacked the DNC”… (pg 3)
Ridiculous.

You couldn’t make this nonsense up if you tried…

Here’s the full filing:

View this document on Scribd
.



Hang them all!
 
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:
 
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:


CrowdStrike denied bid to block security report in legal challenge against ''subversive'' NSS Labs | ZDNet
thanks, I'll read the link



There is rarely a dull day at CrowdStrike where we are not detecting or responding to a breach at a company somewhere around the globe. In all of these cases, we operate under strict confidentiality rules with our customers and cannot reveal publicly any information about these attacks. But on rare occasions, a customer decides to go public with information about their incident and give us permission to share our knowledge of the adversary tradecraft with the broader community and help protect even those who do not happen to be our customers. This story is about one of those cases.


READ THE REST HERE

Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee »
 
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:


CrowdStrike denied bid to block security report in legal challenge against ''subversive'' NSS Labs | ZDNet
thanks, I'll read the link



There is rarely a dull day at CrowdStrike where we are not detecting or responding to a breach at a company somewhere around the globe. In all of these cases, we operate under strict confidentiality rules with our customers and cannot reveal publicly any information about these attacks. But on rare occasions, a customer decides to go public with information about their incident and give us permission to share our knowledge of the adversary tradecraft with the broader community and help protect even those who do not happen to be our customers. This story is about one of those cases.


READ THE REST HERE

Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee »
From one of their links-

Both the DNC and the security firm Crowdstrike, hired to respond to the breach, have said repeatedly over the years that they gave the FBI a copy of all the DNC images back in 2016. The DNC reiterated that Monday in a statement to the Daily Beast.


“The FBI was given images of servers, forensic copies, as well as a host of other forensic information we collected from our systems,” said Adrienne Watson, the DNC’s deputy communications director. “We were in close contact and worked cooperatively with the FBI and were always responsive to their requests. Any suggestion that they were denied access to what they wanted for their investigation is completely incorrect.”

The FBI declined comment for this story, but in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee last year, then-director James Comey said that Crowdstrike “ultimately shared with us their forensics.”

At that same hearing, Comey complained that the DNC didn’t give the FBI direct access to the DNC’s servers. It’s unclear why Comey wanted the FBI operating on the DNC’s live network, but if the DNC demurred it wouldn’t be an unusual call, particularly five months before election day.
............

Now, they never did give them the servers to look at, and lo and behold! Turns out a cd is cracked and other info is missing from fbi evidence from the mid-year exam.
Such a coincidence!

Sort of like all the missing, corrupt drives from the IRS, oh, and all the Clinton missing, destroyed devices. All just a coincidence.

And from left biased slate-

Setting aside the nonsensical first half of the tweet, there’s actually an interesting question worth revisiting buried in the second half. Why wouldn’t the Democratic National Committee allow the FBI to check their servers during the investigation of the DNC breaches during the 2016 election?

The DNC maintains there’s a simple answer to this question: According to the group, the FBI never asked to see their servers. But FBI Director James Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee back in January that the FBI did, in fact, issue “multiple requests at different levels” to the DNC to gain direct access to their computer systems and conduct their own forensic analysis.

Instead, whether because they were denied access or simply never asked for it, the FBI instead used the analysis of the DNC breach conducted by security firm CrowdStrike as the basis for its investigation. Regardless of who is telling the truth about what really happened, perhaps the most astonishing thing about this probe is that a private firm’s investigation and attribution was deemed sufficient by both the DNC and the FBI.
The FBI Relied on a Private Firm’s Investigation of the DNC Hack—Which Makes the Agency Harder to Trust

Now we find out part of the report was even redacted by crowdstrike.
 
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:
Total horseshit. Show us where Crowdstrike made the report available to the public.

Mueller's accusations against Stone are total horseshit. He sure as hell threaten anyone with death. The accusation was that he threatened to kill an associate's dog.

You're inability to get the facts right shows why no one should pay attention to anything you post.
 
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:


CrowdStrike denied bid to block security report in legal challenge against ''subversive'' NSS Labs | ZDNet
thanks, I'll read the link



There is rarely a dull day at CrowdStrike where we are not detecting or responding to a breach at a company somewhere around the globe. In all of these cases, we operate under strict confidentiality rules with our customers and cannot reveal publicly any information about these attacks. But on rare occasions, a customer decides to go public with information about their incident and give us permission to share our knowledge of the adversary tradecraft with the broader community and help protect even those who do not happen to be our customers. This story is about one of those cases.


READ THE REST HERE

Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee »
So where's the report? That's a story about the report, not the report itself.
 
The problem with that propaganda, is Crowdstrike let colleagues in the cyber security community review the data/Report... and they do not differ with Crowdstrike's conclusions, from what I understand. And then you have Special Counsel, who followed the money and servers back to the GRU on Guciffer2...

(And please do not give me that Seth rich stuff... just more propaganda... the DCCC was broken in to along, with Podesta, and neither were servers at the DNC that Seth worked for....)
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:


CrowdStrike denied bid to block security report in legal challenge against ''subversive'' NSS Labs | ZDNet
thanks, I'll read the link



There is rarely a dull day at CrowdStrike where we are not detecting or responding to a breach at a company somewhere around the globe. In all of these cases, we operate under strict confidentiality rules with our customers and cannot reveal publicly any information about these attacks. But on rare occasions, a customer decides to go public with information about their incident and give us permission to share our knowledge of the adversary tradecraft with the broader community and help protect even those who do not happen to be our customers. This story is about one of those cases.


READ THE REST HERE

Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee »
From one of their links-

Both the DNC and the security firm Crowdstrike, hired to respond to the breach, have said repeatedly over the years that they gave the FBI a copy of all the DNC images back in 2016. The DNC reiterated that Monday in a statement to the Daily Beast.


“The FBI was given images of servers, forensic copies, as well as a host of other forensic information we collected from our systems,” said Adrienne Watson, the DNC’s deputy communications director. “We were in close contact and worked cooperatively with the FBI and were always responsive to their requests. Any suggestion that they were denied access to what they wanted for their investigation is completely incorrect.”

The FBI declined comment for this story, but in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee last year, then-director James Comey said that Crowdstrike “ultimately shared with us their forensics.”

At that same hearing, Comey complained that the DNC didn’t give the FBI direct access to the DNC’s servers. It’s unclear why Comey wanted the FBI operating on the DNC’s live network, but if the DNC demurred it wouldn’t be an unusual call, particularly five months before election day.
............

Now, they never did give them the servers to look at, and lo and behold! Turns out a cd is cracked and other info is missing from fbi evidence from the mid-year exam.
Such a coincidence!

Sort of like all the missing, corrupt drives from the IRS, oh, and all the Clinton missing, destroyed devices. All just a coincidence.

And from left biased slate-

Setting aside the nonsensical first half of the tweet, there’s actually an interesting question worth revisiting buried in the second half. Why wouldn’t the Democratic National Committee allow the FBI to check their servers during the investigation of the DNC breaches during the 2016 election?

The DNC maintains there’s a simple answer to this question: According to the group, the FBI never asked to see their servers. But FBI Director James Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee back in January that the FBI did, in fact, issue “multiple requests at different levels” to the DNC to gain direct access to their computer systems and conduct their own forensic analysis.

Instead, whether because they were denied access or simply never asked for it, the FBI instead used the analysis of the DNC breach conducted by security firm CrowdStrike as the basis for its investigation. Regardless of who is telling the truth about what really happened, perhaps the most astonishing thing about this probe is that a private firm’s investigation and attribution was deemed sufficient by both the DNC and the FBI.
The FBI Relied on a Private Firm’s Investigation of the DNC Hack—Which Makes the Agency Harder to Trust

Now we find out part of the report was even redacted by crowdstrike.
The parts of what Crowdstrike did to remediate their systems to keep a future attack from happening were proprietary and not pertinent to the investigation were redacted, is what the court filing said.

Also I read an article on it from cyber firms that the actual server is not needed nor used by those in cyber security, they use copies or clones of the server, because that freezes it in the time period of the attack being researched, instead of allowing other operations going forward that could interfere...

the server is still being used by the DNC, if anyone really needed it, from what I have read.

--------------------------------

What is it that you think you will find on the server that crowdstrike did not find or include in their analysis?


what's the conspiracy you are hoping to prove? :dunno:
 
The problem with that propaganda, is Crowdstrike let colleagues in the cyber security community review the data/Report... and they do not differ with Crowdstrike's conclusions, from what I understand. And then you have Special Counsel, who followed the money and servers back to the GRU on Guciffer2...

(And please do not give me that Seth rich stuff... just more propaganda... the DCCC was broken in to along, with Podesta, and neither were servers at the DNC that Seth worked for....)
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:


CrowdStrike denied bid to block security report in legal challenge against ''subversive'' NSS Labs | ZDNet
thanks, I'll read the link



There is rarely a dull day at CrowdStrike where we are not detecting or responding to a breach at a company somewhere around the globe. In all of these cases, we operate under strict confidentiality rules with our customers and cannot reveal publicly any information about these attacks. But on rare occasions, a customer decides to go public with information about their incident and give us permission to share our knowledge of the adversary tradecraft with the broader community and help protect even those who do not happen to be our customers. This story is about one of those cases.


READ THE REST HERE

Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee »
From one of their links-

Both the DNC and the security firm Crowdstrike, hired to respond to the breach, have said repeatedly over the years that they gave the FBI a copy of all the DNC images back in 2016. The DNC reiterated that Monday in a statement to the Daily Beast.


“The FBI was given images of servers, forensic copies, as well as a host of other forensic information we collected from our systems,” said Adrienne Watson, the DNC’s deputy communications director. “We were in close contact and worked cooperatively with the FBI and were always responsive to their requests. Any suggestion that they were denied access to what they wanted for their investigation is completely incorrect.”

The FBI declined comment for this story, but in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee last year, then-director James Comey said that Crowdstrike “ultimately shared with us their forensics.”

At that same hearing, Comey complained that the DNC didn’t give the FBI direct access to the DNC’s servers. It’s unclear why Comey wanted the FBI operating on the DNC’s live network, but if the DNC demurred it wouldn’t be an unusual call, particularly five months before election day.
............

Now, they never did give them the servers to look at, and lo and behold! Turns out a cd is cracked and other info is missing from fbi evidence from the mid-year exam.
Such a coincidence!

Sort of like all the missing, corrupt drives from the IRS, oh, and all the Clinton missing, destroyed devices. All just a coincidence.

And from left biased slate-

Setting aside the nonsensical first half of the tweet, there’s actually an interesting question worth revisiting buried in the second half. Why wouldn’t the Democratic National Committee allow the FBI to check their servers during the investigation of the DNC breaches during the 2016 election?

The DNC maintains there’s a simple answer to this question: According to the group, the FBI never asked to see their servers. But FBI Director James Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee back in January that the FBI did, in fact, issue “multiple requests at different levels” to the DNC to gain direct access to their computer systems and conduct their own forensic analysis.

Instead, whether because they were denied access or simply never asked for it, the FBI instead used the analysis of the DNC breach conducted by security firm CrowdStrike as the basis for its investigation. Regardless of who is telling the truth about what really happened, perhaps the most astonishing thing about this probe is that a private firm’s investigation and attribution was deemed sufficient by both the DNC and the FBI.
The FBI Relied on a Private Firm’s Investigation of the DNC Hack—Which Makes the Agency Harder to Trust

Now we find out part of the report was even redacted by crowdstrike.
The parts of what Crowdstrike did to remediate their systems to keep a future attack from happening were proprietary and not pertinent to the investigation were redacted, is what the court filing said.

Also I read an article on it from cyber firms that the actual server is not needed nor used by those in cyber security, they use copies or clones of the server, because that freezes it in the time period of the attack being researched, instead of allowing other operations going forward that could interfere...

the server is still being used by the DNC, if anyone really needed it, from what I have read.

--------------------------------

What is it that you think you will find on the server that crowdstrike did not find or include in their analysis?


what's the conspiracy you are hoping to prove? :dunno:
Here is the link to why the server itself is not needed, once it is copied.

Trump's Stupid ‘Where Is the DNC Server?’ Conspiracy Theory, Explained
 
The foundation for the Russian election interference narrative is built on the claim of Russians hacking the servers of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and subsequently releasing damaging emails that showed the DNC worked to help Hillary Clinton and eliminate Bernie Sanders.

Despite the Russian ‘hacking’ claim the DOJ previously admitted the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server. Instead the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.



The narrative around the DNC hack claim was always sketchy; many people believe the DNC email data was downloaded onto a flash drive and leaked. In a court filing (full pdf below) the scale of sketchy has increased exponentially.

Suspecting they could prove the Russian hacking claim was false, lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission. Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the Crowdstrike report.

Yes, that is correct. The FBI and DOJ were only allowed to see a “draft” report prepared by Crowdstrike, and that report was redacted… and that redacted draft is the “last version of the report produced”; meaning, there are no unredacted & final versions.

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!


This means the FBI and DOJ, and all of the downstream claims by the intelligence apparatus; including the December 2016 Joint Analysis Report and January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, all the way to the Weissmann/Mueller report and the continued claims therein; were based on the official intelligence agencies of the U.S. government and the U.S. Department of Justice taking the word of a hired contractor for the Democrat party….. despite their inability to examine the server and/or actually see an unredacted technical forensic report from the investigating contractor.

The entire apparatus of the U.S. government just took their word for it…

…and used the claim therein as an official position….

…which led to a subsequent government claim, in court, of absolute certainty that Russia hacked the DNC.

Think about that for a few minutes.

The full intelligence apparatus of the United States government is relying on a report they have never even been allowed to see or confirm; that was created by a paid contractor for a political victim that would not allow the FBI to investigate their claim.

The DNC server issue is foundation, and cornerstone, of the U.S. government’s position on “Russia hacking” and the election interference narrative; and that narrative is based on zero factual evidence to affirm the U.S. government’s position.

…”the government does not need to prove at the defendant’s trial that the Russians hacked the DNC”… (pg 3)
Ridiculous.

You couldn’t make this nonsense up if you tried…

Here’s the full filing:

View this document on Scribd
.



Hang them all!
the parts that were redacted, were the steps they took to remediate the problem and make them safer in the FUTURE, and had absolutely nothing to do with their analysis of the server hacking that took place.

IT SAYS SO,

right there in the yellow highlighted area, in your post.... for goodness sake!
 
Crowdstrike made their report public, nothing that roger stone could not get himself....

and it was NOT part of this indictment against roger Stone, he lied before the FBI and he threatened with death, another person who would not lie for him to back his lie up...

Trump keeps nice friends! :rolleyes:
Total horseshit. Show us where Crowdstrike made the report available to the public.

Mueller's accusations against Stone are total horseshit. He sure as hell threaten anyone with death. The accusation was that he threatened to kill an associate's dog.

You're inability to get the facts right shows why no one should pay attention to anything you post.

these left wingers are either too dope addled to read anything correctly, or they know they're just lying and making up total crap, which is why no one needs to treat them as real posters, just spammers.
 
The foundation for the Russian election interference narrative is built on the claim of Russians hacking the servers of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and subsequently releasing damaging emails that showed the DNC worked to help Hillary Clinton and eliminate Bernie Sanders.

Despite the Russian ‘hacking’ claim the DOJ previously admitted the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server. Instead the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.



The narrative around the DNC hack claim was always sketchy; many people believe the DNC email data was downloaded onto a flash drive and leaked. In a court filing (full pdf below) the scale of sketchy has increased exponentially.

Suspecting they could prove the Russian hacking claim was false, lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission. Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the Crowdstrike report.

Yes, that is correct. The FBI and DOJ were only allowed to see a “draft” report prepared by Crowdstrike, and that report was redacted… and that redacted draft is the “last version of the report produced”; meaning, there are no unredacted & final versions.

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!


This means the FBI and DOJ, and all of the downstream claims by the intelligence apparatus; including the December 2016 Joint Analysis Report and January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, all the way to the Weissmann/Mueller report and the continued claims therein; were based on the official intelligence agencies of the U.S. government and the U.S. Department of Justice taking the word of a hired contractor for the Democrat party….. despite their inability to examine the server and/or actually see an unredacted technical forensic report from the investigating contractor.

The entire apparatus of the U.S. government just took their word for it…

…and used the claim therein as an official position….

…which led to a subsequent government claim, in court, of absolute certainty that Russia hacked the DNC.

Think about that for a few minutes.

The full intelligence apparatus of the United States government is relying on a report they have never even been allowed to see or confirm; that was created by a paid contractor for a political victim that would not allow the FBI to investigate their claim.

The DNC server issue is foundation, and cornerstone, of the U.S. government’s position on “Russia hacking” and the election interference narrative; and that narrative is based on zero factual evidence to affirm the U.S. government’s position.

…”the government does not need to prove at the defendant’s trial that the Russians hacked the DNC”… (pg 3)
Ridiculous.

You couldn’t make this nonsense up if you tried…

Here’s the full filing:

View this document on Scribd
.



Hang them all!
the parts that were redacted, were the steps they took to remediate the problem and make them safer in the FUTURE, and had absolutely nothing to do with their analysis of the server hacking that took place.

IT SAYS SO,

right there in the yellow highlighted area, in your post.... for goodness sake!
And that has WHAT TO DO with the FBI not looking at the computer when the supposed incident happened....for goodness sake!!!!
 

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