Does the money you earn belong to you or the state?

[Dr.House]

Just because charities help people the Government is not allowed to?

Where did you dig up that nonsense?

You're saying the gubmint is an efficient charitable organization?


Where did you dig up that nonsense?

 

[Dr.House]

Funny how trying to do things for the American people is Socialism to the Conservatives. Pass laws to help business, build the military, control labor, abuse the environment and you are a good legislator.
Pass laws that help people and you are a freak'n Socialist

Charaties, non-profits exist to "help people". Plus churches and other religious organizations...

I would love to afford to donate more of my money to these organizations. Why should we let Daddy Gubmint, the most inefficient and corrupt organization in the country, control what is essentially charitable giving?

Too many greedy paws in big gubmint... Non-profits know how to stretch a buck... I'm not saying there's no corruption in NP's, but compared to Uncle Same? Puh-leeze...

It's a fact that less overhead means more goes to those who need it...

Less overhead? Have you seen what executives at those "Non-profits" make???

Much less than the gubmint....

 

[rightwinger]

Charaties, non-profits exist to "help people". Plus churches and other religious organizations...

I would love to afford to donate more of my money to these organizations. Why should we let Daddy Gubmint, the most inefficient and corrupt organization in the country, control what is essentially charitable giving?

Too many greedy paws in big gubmint... Non-profits know how to stretch a buck... I'm not saying there's no corruption in NP's, but compared to Uncle Same? Puh-leeze...

It's a fact that less overhead means more goes to those who need it...

Less overhead? Have you seen what executives at those "Non-profits" make???

Much less than the gubmint....

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

 

[loosecannon]

The Gov't thinks its theirs they keep taking all they can get of it.

It is theirs, they printed it, they own it. The fact that they can legally prohibit you from defacing it, that they can tax your use of it, and that they can recall it is proof positive that money is always theirs and never yours

 

[loosecannon]

The money I earn belongs to me... the state just thinks its theirs.

.

nope, the money itself belongs to Caesar. If you buy property with it you have limited rights to that property, but the money itself is on loan, not lease, and not for sale.

Which is why it is illegal to fuck up a nickel even if it is "yours".

What if everybody in the private sector stopped working where does the government get it's money?
Sorry but my money is my money.

I tell you what you need to do if you think the government owns everybody's money pay my share to.

the government prints the money, it is theirs to make and use how they wish, it says so right in the constitution. Which is why they can print more any day they choose.

You don't have any of your own money and you never will, if you try to print your own you will eventually be shut down like the FreeMen were.

Who Owns the Money - The Fed // Current

 

[Dr.House]

Less overhead? Have you seen what executives at those "Non-profits" make???

Much less than the gubmint....

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

Just salaries, or gubmint paid perks afforded to them as well?

You know what Pelousy's Air Force flights bill alone was? Yikes...

 

[NYcarbineer]

It is your money but you belong to a society.

REALLY?

Please reconcile this with the concept of individual liberty.

Your individual liberty is not unlimited. This is not anarchy, it's a constitutional republic.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The money I earn belongs to me... the state just thinks its theirs.

.

nope, the money itself belongs to Caesar. If you buy property with it you have limited rights to that property, but the money itself is on loan, not lease, and not for sale.

Which is why it is illegal to fuck up a nickel even if it is "yours".

What if everybody in the private sector stopped working where does the government get it's money?
Sorry but my money is my money.

I tell you what you need to do if you think the government owns everybody's money pay my share to.

If it's all your money, why do you pay your taxes? Are you stupid, or just a pussy?

 

[Gadawg73]

If someone tried to break in my home and steal my property I would point my .44 Blackhawk & blow their ass into next week.
My relationship with the IRS is exactly the same.
Wealth is EARNED, never to be "redistributed".

 

[rightwinger]

Much less than the gubmint....

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

Just salaries, or gubmint paid perks afforded to them as well?

You know what Pelousy's Air Force flights bill alone was? Yikes...

LOL...Pathetic response House

Pelosi??? Don't you cons have anything else?

Show me some salaries

 

[Gadawg73]

nope, the money itself belongs to Caesar. If you buy property with it you have limited rights to that property, but the money itself is on loan, not lease, and not for sale.

Which is why it is illegal to fuck up a nickel even if it is "yours".

What if everybody in the private sector stopped working where does the government get it's money?
Sorry but my money is my money.

I tell you what you need to do if you think the government owns everybody's money pay my share to.

the government prints the money, it is theirs to make and use how they wish, it says so right in the constitution. Which is why they can print more any day they choose.

You don't have any of your own money and you never will, if you try to print your own you will eventually be shut down like the FreeMen were.

Who Owns the Money - The Fed // Current

That is CURRENCY, dumbass.
Money is earned.
Government PRINTS CURRENCY.
Government EARNS NOTHING.

 

[Oddball]

Less overhead? Have you seen what executives at those "Non-profits" make???

Much less than the gubmint....

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

How many of those people can get one of their bureaucratic henchmen to wave a gun in your face and force you to contribute to their causes?

 

[Dr.House]

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

Just salaries, or gubmint paid perks afforded to them as well?

You know what Pelousy's Air Force flights bill alone was? Yikes...

LOL...Pathetic response House

Pelosi??? Don't you cons have anything else?

Show me some salaries

You are pathetic, yes...

Why salaries alone?

 

[rightwinger]

Much less than the gubmint....

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

How many of those people can get one of their bureaucratic henchmen to wave a gun in your face and force you to contribute to their causes?

All of them....especially LaPierre

 

[antagon]

or does the ownership pass to the state somewhere at some income level?

Folks keep on saying that reducing tax rates from 35 to 30 is a "giveaway" on high incomes. Since the person earned it in some fashion, how does that 5% belong to the state so that they could "give it away?"

income tax policy essentially states that xx% of your earnings is the state's. without conceding that you've spent it in ways which you've been coerced through expensibility, you are liable for that amount. i guess if the state changes this rate, it would be a giveaway from some points of view, but from others, its just a smaller rip-off.

 

[Oddball]

Show me anyone in government who makes these salaries


Top 25 Compensation Packages from AIP's Charity Rating Guide

Harold Varmus, M.D., President/CEO Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center $2,677,306
Wayne LaPierre, Executive VP/Ex-Officio National Rifle Association & Foundation, respectively $1,281,635
Donald Thomas, Deputy CEO American Cancer Society $1,212,293
Robert J. Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive Boy Scouts of America - N.O. $1,163,472
Michael Friedman, M.D., President/CEO City of Hope $1,134,737
M. Cass Wheeler, Past CEO American Heart Association/American Stroke Association $1,090,769
Includes $300,000 severence payment.
Brian A. Gallagher, President/CEO
United Way Worldwide $1,037,140
Includes "non-qualified pension imputed income of $410,131."
Edwin J. Feulner, President Heritage Foundation $1,008,094
Roxanne Spillett, President/Governor Boys & Girls Clubs of America - N.O. $988,591

How many of those people can get one of their bureaucratic henchmen to wave a gun in your face and force you to contribute to their causes?

All of them

Bullshit.

None of them can, which is more than you can say for HHS poverty pimps.

 

[Oddball]

or does the ownership pass to the state somewhere at some income level?

Folks keep on saying that reducing tax rates from 35 to 30 is a "giveaway" on high incomes. Since the person earned it in some fashion, how does that 5% belong to the state so that they could "give it away?"

It passes to the state from the get-go, on the mere principle of the matter.

Who is telling you how much you can keep and how much will be expropriated from you?

 

[rightwinger]

How many of those people can get one of their bureaucratic henchmen to wave a gun in your face and force you to contribute to their causes?

All of them

Bullshit.

None of them can, which is more than you can say for HHS poverty pimps.

Perhaps you have not met Mr LaPierre???

 

[Oddball]

All of them

Bullshit.

None of them can, which is more than you can say for HHS poverty pimps.

Perhaps you have not met Mr LaPierre???

Since when does the NRA have a monopoly on the use of physical force, with practically no legal repercussions for abuse of that power?

 

[Charles_Main]

or does the ownership pass to the state somewhere at some income level?

Folks keep on saying that reducing tax rates from 35 to 30 is a "giveaway" on high incomes. Since the person earned it in some fashion, how does that 5% belong to the state so that they could "give it away?"

It's our money not the governments. When the government cuts taxes, it is not a giveaway. It is them letting us keep more of our OWN MONEY. When they raise taxes it is a TAKE AWAY.