Does the 2nd Amendment Cover Ammo?

[kaz]

The Second refers to the formation of regulated milita, and uses the natural right of self-defense as justification.

The definition of a "militia" is in the hands of the people, not the government

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do you agree that the 1st amendment's establishment clause doe snot protect human sacrifice as part of a religious ceremony?
legally speaking, why?

Religious sacrifice does not serve the rights of the individual... it literally rejects the fundamental american principle that we are ALL endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights.
Therefore the RIGHT to one's life is SUSTAINED THROUGH THE DEFENSE OF ONE'S MEANS and the means of other innocents, to exercise their LIFE.
FTR: This is also how we know that 'The Right to Privacy, does not provide a "RIGHT" to murder one's inconvenient, pre-born children.

OK... and if he who would be sacrificed makes the choice to be sacrificed.... does the 1st amendment protect those who kill him?

The right to life, comes intrinsically with the responsibility to defend the means to exercise that life... there is no sound moral justification which provides for the taking of innocent life. (Although I am a proponent of such, where disease has crippled the life and the end of such is known to be defined by prolonged, incomprehensible pain.

Naturally, some will disagree, and they can bring their contests, but they're not going to care for how it goes for them.)

Edit: Short answer to your question is: No.

The short answer is all I need.

The police have no authority to do background checks on anyone unless they are the target of a criminal investigation. The Constitution doesn't allow infringing the right to bear arms for any reason other than having been convicted of a felony by due process of law.

Not exactly true.
The state can infringe your right so long at such infringement confirms to the standards of strict scrutiny.
This is, of course, exceedingly difficult to do as the state must show a compelling interest for the infringement, that the infringement meets that interest, and that it is least restrictve means of doing so.

The "strict scrutiny" test is bullshit. Where does the Constitution mention it? It's just one more excuse in a long list the government contrived to violate your rights.

Do you agree that the 1st amendment's establishment clause does not protect human sacrifice as part of a religious ceremony?
Legally speaking, why?

Because every human has a right to life. You can't practice that religion without violating the rights of other citizens.

You can, if the sacrificant gives his life willingly as part of that religion.
So then....?

 

[bripat9643]

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You just proved my argument!

Also, apparently you've not heard of gun permits, etc.

Jury trial. LOL.

So the existence of gun permits is proof that they're valid? Circular dumbass reasoning.

Jim Crow must have been good because it existed for decades!

Over a century, in fact.

Less than a century, actually. Jim Crow didn't start until after first Civil Rights Act was declared unconstitutional in 1883.

Incorrect, but a lot of people believe that. The original Jim Crow laws were passed long before the Civil war in Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio to prevent runaway slaves from settling. Jim Crow, originally called the Black Codes, was a series of laws that prevented negros from finding work, owning property, squatting, malingering, or doing anything except passing right on through. They because so popular that the states neighboring Illinois, Ohio and Indiana passed similar legislation.

The reason this gets lost in history is because new Jim Crow laws were passed after the war during Reconstruction, but instead of calling them the Black Codes, as they were originally called, in 1865 the laws were dubbed "Jim Crow" after a white performer who painted himself black and performed comedy skits in Pennsylvania and New York in 1832. Though the name Jim Crow was around before the Civil War, the name was applied to laws inspired by the pre-war Black Codes all the way until 1933.

You're correct if you believe the black codes were the same thing as Jim Crow laws. I don't. They existed prior to the Civil War and they were mostly abolished after the Civil War.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

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So the existence of gun permits is proof that they're valid? Circular dumbass reasoning.

Jim Crow must have been good because it existed for decades!

Over a century, in fact.

Less than a century, actually. Jim Crow didn't start until after first Civil Rights Act was declared unconstitutional in 1883.

Incorrect, but a lot of people believe that. The original Jim Crow laws were passed long before the Civil war in Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio to prevent runaway slaves from settling. Jim Crow, originally called the Black Codes, was a series of laws that prevented negros from finding work, owning property, squatting, malingering, or doing anything except passing right on through. They because so popular that the states neighboring Illinois, Ohio and Indiana passed similar legislation.

The reason this gets lost in history is because new Jim Crow laws were passed after the war during Reconstruction, but instead of calling them the Black Codes, as they were originally called, in 1865 the laws were dubbed "Jim Crow" after a white performer who painted himself black and performed comedy skits in Pennsylvania and New York in 1832. Though the name Jim Crow was around before the Civil War, the name was applied to laws inspired by the pre-war Black Codes all the way until 1933.

You're correct if you believe the black codes were the same thing as Jim Crow laws. I don't. They existed prior to the Civil War and they were mostly abolished after the Civil War.

That's a simple semantic disagreement. The only real difference between those laws is the name. In all other respects, laws restricting the rights of colored people to preserve the property values of White America are the same. The Black Codes in the Northern States also lasted well into the 20th century, contrary to your claim they were abolished quickly after the war, and mirrored Jim Crow laws passed in the South during Reconstruction. Even after the abolition of these laws, many rural counties in Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois remained lily white for decades afterward. In fact, the war was but a brief hiccup in an otherwise unbroken tradition both North and South, of creating laws restricting the rights of negros, regardless of what history named them in retrospect.

 

[EatMorChikin]

What's the point of having a gun and not being able to get ammunition for it...
Well for Democrat's that's exactly the point.Isn't it.
We will let you keep the guns....just can't have the ammo...
Because we don't want to be called gun grabbers...

You have to give them credit for trying. They've come up with a million dumb excuses for abridging the 2nd Amendment.

Oh the shit will keep flying, they will stop at nothing to make sure we are all defenseless victims like them.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Do you agree that the 1st amendment's establishment clause does not protect human sacrifice as part of a religious ceremony?
Legally speaking, why?

I don't agree. If the person volunteers for a religious sacrifice, then so be it.

 

[Vigilante]

Until an ammo manufacturer that is DIRECTLY affected by such an ammo ban, decides to take it all the way up the line to SCOTUS, if necessary, the obomanation can do whatever his PEN will write.... there is NO EFFECTIVE Republican opposition to anything this POS does!.... Looking more and more like a THIRD PARTY is needed, just to fuck up the feckless Republicans we voted in on campaign promises! We see the LEADERSHIP, bow down and give Obozo a BJ, in the Oval Office!

 

[BluesLegend]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

 

[Vigilante]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

I believe the actual numbers show it's black man with a gun, that KILLS because he was
"DISRESPECTED" or some sort of gang violence...but Pussypussy never let's FACTS get in his way.....

 

[BluesLegend]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

I believe the actual numbers show it's black man with a gun, that KILLS because he was
"DISRESPECTED" or some sort of gang violence...but Pussypussy never let's FACTS get in his way.....

I love watching the left writhe in pain these past 4 years, every election has been a gift.

 

[Vigilante]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

I believe the actual numbers show it's black man with a gun, that KILLS because he was
"DISRESPECTED" or some sort of gang violence...but Pussypussy never let's FACTS get in his way.....

I love watching the left writhe in pain these past 4 years, every election has been a gift.

Unfortunately, the Republican leadership is in Obuma's back pocket... or why CAVE on everything the POS has done since they took over?...SOMETHING IS WRONG with this picture!

 

[Siete]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

I believe the actual numbers show it's black man with a gun, that KILLS because he was
"DISRESPECTED" or some sort of gang violence...but Pussypussy never let's FACTS get in his way.....

I love watching the left writhe in pain these past 4 years, every election has been a gift.

Unfortunately, the Republican leadership is in Obuma's back pocket... or why CAVE on everything the POS has done since they took over?...SOMETHING IS WRONG with this picture!

there ya go ^^^^^^^^

Congress can cover an EO, the POTUS can cover Congress with a veto, Congress can override the veto, the final responsibility is on Congress, in this case a REPUBLICAN Congress ... if RW's want answers ask the Republican Congress and quit bitching about Obama ...

end of story.

 

[Vigilante]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

I believe the actual numbers show it's black man with a gun, that KILLS because he was
"DISRESPECTED" or some sort of gang violence...but Pussypussy never let's FACTS get in his way.....

I love watching the left writhe in pain these past 4 years, every election has been a gift.

Unfortunately, the Republican leadership is in Obuma's back pocket... or why CAVE on everything the POS has done since they took over?...SOMETHING IS WRONG with this picture!

there ya go ^^^^^^^^

Congress can cover an EO, the POTUS can cover Congress with a veto, Congress can override the veto, the final responsibility is on Congress, in this case a REPUBLICAN Congress ... if RW's want answers ask the Republican Congress and quit bitching about Obama ...

end of story.

Since the Congress is not FILIBUSTER PROOF, the CommiecRATS, can BLOCK all of the Congress's act or bills......

Thanks for playing! You really are trying to be a shyster?....

 

[bripat9643]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"

most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Liberal terrorists have caused trillions in financial damage to the country, its workers, and our manufacturing base. To the point that the future of the Republic is in doubt. So much for your petty example.

Actually, the most common type of American terrorist is a union man.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Actually, the most common type of American terrorist is a union man.

I think the Confederate States found that out.....

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, the most common type of American terrorist is a union man.

I think the Confederate States found that out.....

I would say that you're pretending to be stupid, except for the fact that I know you aren't pretending.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Actually, the most common type of American terrorist is a union man.

I think the Confederate States found that out.....

I would say that you're pretending to be stupid, except for the fact that I know you aren't pretending.

if you use snark please label it .....

 

[M14 Shooter]

Slothrop's "Believe it or Stuff it"
most common type of American terrorist is a white man with a grudge and a gun

Most common statement from a liberal: mindless, partisan and bigoted.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

, Muslims in the United States are more often the victims of ideological violence than the perpetrators of it.