Does self awareness come from atoms and molecules?

[evenflow1969]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

Carbon atoms are not self aware. They do how ever form molecules that form systems that become self aware.

 

[Old Rocks]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Yes

 

[Old Rocks]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Electrical impulses firing between neurons.

Really? So my smart phone might really be smart

Probably smarter than you. LOL I have always wondered if we will create AI accidentally when enough computing power on the net is hooked up to become self aware.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

Carbon atoms are not self aware. They do how ever form molecules that form systems that become self aware.

That makes no sense.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

A lesson for Frank:

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-atoms-...repel-each-other-like-stones-organism-or-dust

 

[Wry Catcher]

"I think, therefore, I am" And at the moment I think Frank has gotten a hold of some very powerful and potentially stepped on weed.

Ingesting > smoking

True and no stink, and satisfies the munchies.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

Carbon atoms are not self aware. They do how ever form molecules that form systems that become self aware.

That makes no sense.

And yet, it is a fact. A rational person would not then try to invent fake facts so suit his own preconceptions, but rather would come to terms with knowing jack shit about this and would then do research somewhere besides USMB.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

Carbon atoms are not self aware. They do how ever form molecules that form systems that become self aware.

That makes no sense.

And yet, it is a fact. A rational person would not then try to invent fake facts so suit his own preconceptions, but rather would come to terms with knowing jack shit about this and would then do research somewhere besides USMB.

Molecules held together are automatically self aware? Is a tree self aware? Is a rock?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Molecules held together are automatically self aware?

No...where did you get such an odd idea?

 

[evenflow1969]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

Carbon atoms are not self aware. They do how ever form molecules that form systems that become self aware.

That makes no sense.

you are pretty short on understanding,

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Maybe this belongs in Religion and Ethics? What else would it be the product of, if not chemistry?

So a carbon atom knows that it's different from other carbon atoms?

Carbon atoms are not self aware. They do how ever form molecules that form systems that become self aware.

That makes no sense.

you are pretty short on understanding,

One of us surely is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Molecules held together are automatically self aware?

No...where did you get such an odd idea?

So, how does that happen

 

[abu afak]

"I think, therefore, I am" And at the moment I think Frank has gotten a hold of some very powerful and potentially stepped on weed.

This thread is just another variant of "God of the Gaps".
If he/we don't understand it, it must be god.
see ie, God of the gaps - RationalWiki

The same Idiotic 'reasoning' that produced the Fire, Lightning, Fertility, and 10,000 Other 'gods'.... UNTIL we undertsoood the natural phenomenon.

YAAAAWN.
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[CrusaderFrank]

"I think, therefore, I am" And at the moment I think Frank has gotten a hold of some very powerful and potentially stepped on weed.

This thread is just another variant of "God of the Gaps".
If he/we don't understand it, it must be god.
The same Idiotic 'reasoning' that producd the Fire, Lightning, Fertility, and 10,000 Other 'gods'.... UNTIL we undertsoood the natural phenomenon.

YAAAAWN.
`

Yeah, still not seeing where, when and how you showed where awareness comes from

 

[abu afak]

Yeah, still not seeing where, when and how you showed where awareness comes from

I didn't claim to.
Nor do I have to.
You're just doing it again.

I said YOU are using god as an explanation for something we do NOT understand YET.
It does NOT follow that if you don't understand/understand yet, that it must be god.
(the false implication of this thread)
And that this 'reasoning'/justification for a god/dog has always failed in the past as 10,000 other natural explanations have been found.

You are TOO Stupid to debate.
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[Moonglow]

Does self awareness come from atoms and molecules?

Only to the initiated.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, still not seeing where, when and how you showed where awareness comes from

I didn't claim to.
You're just doing it again STUPID.
I said YOU are using god as an explanation for something we do NOT understand YET.
And that this 'reasoning'/justification for a god/dog has always failed in the past as 10,000 other natural explanations have been found.

You are TOO Stupid to debate.
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See, I never said that either. An alternative is that EVERYTHING is self aware, but we're only able to relate to a very tiny sampling based upon how we communicate that awareness

 

[abu afak]

See, I never said that either. An alternative is that EVERYTHING is self aware, but we're only able to relate to a very tiny sampling based upon how we communicate that awareness

That IS the "implication" of this thread, and your repeated theme.. and yo Life.
That there is a supernatural force/god.

You did NOT have to elaborate.
And that implication/'reasoning is/remains Bogus.

Blo me/bye/gameover
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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Molecules held together are automatically self aware?

No...where did you get such an odd idea?

So, how does that happen

Selection!

 

[IsaacNewton]

Youre reading this, so you believe you're self aware. Is that merely a by product of chemistry?

Can atoms walk on water.