Does Obama represent the will of the people

The answer is no. Because no man can represent the will of the people. The will of the people is not a monolithic entity.

explain to me why the will of the people cannot be represented?
I submit to you this defines the very problem in our great nation. We are a republic

We govern by the people for the people

It is the very reason people define Obama as a socialist
 
He is the duly elected POTUS.

He and any other elected POTUS are supposed to govern for all the people. How many actually do that is debatable.

The best thing about electing a POTUS is that you don't have to elect him a second time. If the majority of the people don't like the job he did while POTUS they can elect someone else.

Works for me.

when did GWB listen to the people?

You just want to turn the last presidential election on its head to support your partys lies.


LMAO there TDM.

1. It ain't my party.

2. You obviously didn't read what I wrote.

He and the elected POTUS are supposed to govern for all of the people. HOW MANY ACTUALLY DO IS DEBATABLE.

Doesnt' look to me that I was picking on your messiah. Every POTUS governs as he sees fit. They sure can't please the entire populations no matter their party.
WHEW!!!

How old ARE you??!!!

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"Suddenly, it seems everyone in Washington is singing the virtues of retiring the national debt. For two decades, as deficits mounted, it was a nonissue. But the prospect of surpluses has economists and policymakers thinking the unthinkable: erasing the $3.8 trillion pile of federal IOUs held by the public."

 
GM was against the peoples will
Just 21% Favor GM Bailout Plan, 67% Oppose - Rasmussen Reports™

Poll for Obama-care
New CNN Poll: 59% Oppose Obamacare | The Foundry
Poll: ObamaCare a bad idea - Live Pulse - POLITICO.com
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf


Lets start there
Thats trillion dollars along with in my opinion pure socialism with GM. Its never personal to me
The discussion is does Obama represent the will of the people?
Obama only represents the will of those who put him in power.
Wait'll he deep-sixes the Bush Tax-Cuts....and, reverts to the CLINTON-RATES!!!

"Not only was the entire national deficit eliminated after raising taxes on the wealthy in 1993, but the economy grew so fast for the remainder of the decade that many conservative economists thought that the Fed should raise the prime interest rate in order to slow it down."


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No he doesn't. He represents the will of 8% of the people,the extreme far left.
For the first time in our nations history, Congress passed a Health Care Bill against the majority of the people.
When President Clinton was president, at least congress listened to the majority and they did not pass that Health Care Bill.
 
But the message remains: the Right does not see this president as 'one of us' in that charming, old tradition of Conservatives.

I would change that to say... "the majority of Americans do not see this president as "one of us" in that charming, old tradition of America."

He's an ultra liberal, he's a socialist, he's a marxist, he's a black theologist, he's a radical and a muslim by name, and none of that is "traditional" to America.

And NO, he doesn't represent the will of the majority of the people on a great many of his policies. He is anti American, and doing more to ruin America than help it.
Aw, jeez.....is it Stormfront Membership Drive time, again, already??

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No he doesn't represent the will of the "Teabaggers", "Pseudo-conservatives", or "Faux News".

Stupid question as Nosmo-King pointed out.

Look Boo
Thats the will of the people
The republic for witch it stands is a governed that is represented for the people by the people
The question is not only legitimate, it is the very question that the conjures up the word socialism

GM and Chrysler are 2 examples beyond debate
the health-care reform bill had the peoples representatives vote for it, thats why close to 70 of them got thrown out of office

The Stimulus?
CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted - CNN
that money could have been sent back when that poll was taken, the money not spent

Sorry America is much more than Teabaggin, psuedo-conned, faux news viewers.

Like has been point out before, it was the will of the people in 2008 (despite the pseudo-cons and faux news). The next chance they get to express their collective will is 2012.

BTW, do you think Presisent Bush (son) represented the will of the people for both his terms?
 
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No he doesn't. He represents the will of 8% of the people,the extreme far left.
For the first time in our nations history, Congress passed a Health Care Bill against the majority of the people.
When President Clinton was president, at least congress listened to the majority and they did not pass that Health Care Bill.

Even the democrats panned Hillary's Healthcare plan.
 
No he doesn't. He represents the will of 8% of the people,the extreme far left.
For the first time in our nations history, Congress passed a Health Care Bill against the majority of the people.
When President Clinton was president, at least congress listened to the majority and they did not pass that Health Care Bill.

Even the democrats panned Hillary's Healthcare plan.

Wish we had it

Even the Republican counter proposal at that time offered more than Obamacare
 
That is precisely what we had to deal with, with President Bush....and 8 years of it, where what the liberals thought and wanted was completely ignored.

yah, it stinks to high heaven, but such is life and such is our Democratic Republic.

Then let's stop pretending he is "our" president and be honest enough to say he's "your" president. It's what I've been doing from the get go. You can have him. He sucks.

He is your president Willow...just like George Bush was my president

His election represets the will of "We the People.."

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Obama swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States when he took office. I would say he has been bypassing it AND Congress since he became president. ***

From Gina Miller:

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/05/...utm_campaign=Feed:+DakotaVoice+(Dakota+Voice)


"I certainly do consider this Obama administration to be dictatorial. How many more times do we need to see Obama thumb his nose at the Constitution and the rule of law in America for us to understand that he is a man of lawlessness?

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No he doesn't represent the will of the "Teabaggers", "Pseudo-conservatives", or "Faux News".

Stupid question as Nosmo-King pointed out.

Look Boo
Thats the will of the people
The republic for witch it stands....

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No he doesn't represent the will of the "Teabaggers", "Pseudo-conservatives", or "Faux News".

Stupid question as Nosmo-King pointed out.

Look Boo
Thats the will of the people
The republic for witch it stands is a governed that is represented for the people by the people
The question is not only legitimate, it is the very question that the conjures up the word socialism

GM and Chrysler are 2 examples beyond debate
the health-care reform bill had the peoples representatives vote for it, thats why close to 70 of them got thrown out of office

The Stimulus?
CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted - CNN
that money could have been sent back when that poll was taken, the money not spent

Sorry America is much more than Teabaggin, psuedo-conned, faux news viewers.

Like has been point out before, it was the will of the people in 2008 (dispite the pseudo-cons and faux news). The next chance they get to express their collective will is 2012.

BTW, do you think Presisent Bush (son) represented the will of the people for both his terms?

Do you not pay attention to any polls?
Its not just about the tea baggers

And W?
Absolutely
Poll: Speech improved Bush's approval rating - CNN
Iraq invasion
Public Support for Invasion of Iraq Holds Steady

Medicare reform was not so popular
No child left behind had mixed reviews
FOXNews.com - 'No Child Left Behind' Gets Mixed Reviews - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

remember both of those where Bi partisan and neither of them stated they would save 500 billion dollars from Medicare to finance them
No child left behind has (had to be) to be re approved as I recall

Also GWB had a stimulus that was a rebate to the very people who pay the taxes, well some anyway
Obama choose who he would give his failed stimulus to

See you find the largest difference with the two right away
GWB did what the will of the people demanded with the exception of GM
AND with GM he told them in 3 months to pay it back or else
Obama gave them or else
 
The answer is no. Because no man can represent the will of the people. The will of the people is not a monolithic entity.


I can agree with that.

His election however is a reflection of the will of the people in Nov. 2008.
 
Well, let's start with the FACT that the GM Bailout started under George W Bush.

Now let's talk about that HC poll. From the CNN Poll you cited:

Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country’s health care system – Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

2010
Obama 51%
Republicans in Congress 39%
Both equally/neither (vol.) 10%
No opinion 1%

When President Obama took office, Health Care was one of the top contenders on America's "fix it" list, along with the economy and the environment so it is a bit disingenuous for you to be claiming that the President isn't doing what the people wanted. It certainly isn't HIS fault that we didn't get what most Americans DID want, a public option.

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Obama never intended to represent the will of the people. He had his own agenda and stuck to it. When he was pushing for Health Care Reform, we seldom heard a word about the economy which was the national crisis. The stock market was going crazy and like a fool, he igonored the people and the disaster in the line of fire.

He paid for it in 2010 and will again in 2012. He's running to the middle, but it's too late.
 
The only ones the Obama represents are his political backers and special interest groups.

He has no USE for the rest of the American people..but this last election showed SOME of the American people are WAKING UP to things. Now lets vote out this ugly thuggish, divisive, race baiting so called, President and his Comrades in Arms in the Democrat party in 2012..

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Why do Conservatives live in the fantasy world that the majority of Americans somehow align with their view point?.. It's obvious they don't. All you have to do is take one look at a poll on the Tea Party.. The longer it's around, the more negatively people think about it. Also most polls show that majorities of Americans break to the left when it comes down to issues, not just cutesy word-play.

Now.. do people love Obama?.. And has Obama done everything right? Oh hell no.. but when presented with a choice of going back to the 8 years of Bush, or going forward with what we have, people understand the choice they have to make.

The only Americans that are "waking up" to Obama and his "comrades", are the fucking teabaggers that didn't like Obama from the very start.

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