Does Obama represent the will of the people

hummm, so you're saying we elect a DICTATOR every four years and if the people don't like it, tough shit.
It was YOU radical Far-RW MFers that voted for a dictator....TWICE!!

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Go blow it out your A$$!

:rolleyes:
 
wow, so he doesn't HAVE TO LISTEN to the REST of the people who didn't vote for him, is this what you're saying.?

No, and i have no idea how you reached such a stupid conclusion. Let's try again:

He doesn't have to listen to anybody, period. Upon being duly elected, the President is under no obligation to lead based on polls or the alleged will of the people. He is only obligated to act under rights granted to the Executive branch by the Constitution.

If the public determines that he is not acting in their best interest they can vote him out four years later.

That's because the founders didn't create a pure democracy.

hummm, so you're saying we elect a DICTATOR every four years and if the people don't like it, tough shit.

Eh, no. Once again you make shit up about what I said.

He's not a dictator. You might recall that he can't even create a law (well, that's assuming you've read and comprehended the Constitution).

He's the duly elected leader of the Executive branch and he acts in accordance with duties under the Constitution. None of the duties include taking a poll each time he makes a decision.

Stop being so fucking stupid.
 
Well, let's start with the FACT that the GM Bailout started under George W Bush.

Now let's talk about that HC poll. From the CNN Poll you cited:

Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country’s health care system – Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

2010
Obama 51%
Republicans in Congress 39%
Both equally/neither (vol.) 10%
No opinion 1%

When President Obama took office, Health Care was one of the top contenders on America's "fix it" list, along with the economy and the environment so it is a bit disingenuous for you to be claiming that the President isn't doing what the people wanted. It certainly isn't HIS fault that we didn't get what most Americans DID want, a public option.

It looks like his style was not popular

GWB loaned GM the money
Did not give it to them
There is a big difference
beside, does 2 wrongs make a right?
I keep telling you Liberals Obama is nothing But W on super STEROIDS

[The automakers have] three months to put in place plans to structure viable companies – which we believe they can do,” President Bush said. He stressed his reluctancy to have to provide the loans, but said that they were necessary given the current financial turmoil.

President Bush issued the ultimatum that the federal loans must be repaid by March 31 if the automakers do not come up with a viable plan for going forward, “or the only option
will be bankruptcy.”
Bush: GM, Chrysler to receive $17.4b federal loans

What about closing Gitmo?
If it was up to him it would be closed

The President's "style" isn't popular? Are you kidding me?

Most people opposed the bank and auto bailouts. No doubt about it. I myself opposed the bank bailout, but not the auto bailout. I'm pragmatic enough to realize, however, that we couldn't let the banks fail no matter how much I wanted them to PAY for their malfeasance.

As far as the GM bailout goes, it certainly seems to have been effective. GM has recovered and recovered to such an extent that they are poised to take the top spot away from Toyota. That's pretty cool. How many JOBS were saved as a result I wonder?

What about Gitmo?
 
Does Obama represent the will of the people

America has reached a crossroads. I believe the 'entitlement generation' has reached the 50% level. The key for them is to never to take responsibility for the personal decisions they've made, and Obama says what they want to hear.
 
Health bill spreads the pain, benefits - USATODAY.com




Poor adults will get Medicaid. Low-income families will get federal subsidies to buy insurance. Small businesses will get tax credits. Children will be able to stay on parents' policies until they turn 26. Seniors will gain additional prescription-drug coverage. People with medical conditions will gain peace of mind because insurers have to cover them.

Where did you read this? In the bill?
Let ma add what you just described we all ready have in place (Medicare)
One more thing
Destroying it will not fix another

This is what is in the bill.

The bill does not destroy medicare and the fact that you think it does is more proof of the right wing lies saturating the debate.
 
There is no "Will of the People" on individual issues

No Government acts that way, especially ours. You are elected to do a job and you have four years to do it. If the will of the people is that you did a good job, you get reelected. If not.....you are out

Any Representative that sways back and forth on the basis of daily polls is doomed to fail.

Democracy does not work..That is why we are a Republic
 
'The people' are not that bright to begin with; and they're so confused right now they don't know what they want. Case and point, teatards.

Most people want their taxes to go down, and everyone else's to go up. They want the programs they depend on funded, all others cut. So even if I stipulate that 'The people' knew what they wanted, what's popular is not always right. :thup:
 
He is the duly elected POTUS.

He and any other elected POTUS are supposed to govern for all the people. How many actually do that is debatable.

The best thing about electing a POTUS is that you don't have to elect him a second time. If the majority of the people don't like the job he did while POTUS they can elect someone else.

Works for me.
 
wow, so he doesn't HAVE TO LISTEN to the REST of the people who didn't vote for him, is this what you're saying.?

No, and i have no idea how you reached such a stupid conclusion. Let's try again:

He doesn't have to listen to anybody, period. Upon being duly elected, the President is under no obligation to lead based on polls or the alleged will of the people. He is only obligated to act under rights granted to the Executive branch by the Constitution.

If the public determines that he is not acting in their best interest they can vote him out four years later.

That's because the founders didn't create a pure democracy.

hummm, so you're saying we elect a DICTATOR every four years and if the people don't like it, tough shit.

That is precisely what we had to deal with, with President Bush....and 8 years of it, where what the liberals thought and wanted was completely ignored.

yah, it stinks to high heaven, but such is life and such is our Democratic Republic.
 
There is no "Will of the People" on individual issues

No Government acts that way, especially ours. You are elected to do a job and you have four years to do it. If the will of the people is that you did a good job, you get reelected. If not.....you are out

Any Representative that sways back and forth on the basis of daily polls is doomed to fail.

Democracy does not work..That is why we are a Republic

A republic IS a democracy.



What you are speaking of is a direct democracy and yes it doesnt work very well
 
Well, let's start with the FACT that the GM Bailout started under George W Bush.

Now let's talk about that HC poll. From the CNN Poll you cited:

Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country’s health care system – Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

2010
Obama 51%
Republicans in Congress 39%
Both equally/neither (vol.) 10%
No opinion 1%

When President Obama took office, Health Care was one of the top contenders on America's "fix it" list, along with the economy and the environment so it is a bit disingenuous for you to be claiming that the President isn't doing what the people wanted. It certainly isn't HIS fault that we didn't get what most Americans DID want, a public option.
People never wanted gov't. take over of health care. Obamacare is unconstitutional. CNN? Really? Like they are trustworthy.
 
He is the duly elected POTUS.

He and any other elected POTUS are supposed to govern for all the people. How many actually do that is debatable.

The best thing about electing a POTUS is that you don't have to elect him a second time. If the majority of the people don't like the job he did while POTUS they can elect someone else.

Works for me.

when did GWB listen to the people?

You just want to turn the last presidential election on its head to support your partys lies.
 
Well, let's start with the FACT that the GM Bailout started under George W Bush.

Now let's talk about that HC poll. From the CNN Poll you cited:

Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country’s health care system – Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

2010
Obama 51%
Republicans in Congress 39%
Both equally/neither (vol.) 10%
No opinion 1%

When President Obama took office, Health Care was one of the top contenders on America's "fix it" list, along with the economy and the environment so it is a bit disingenuous for you to be claiming that the President isn't doing what the people wanted. It certainly isn't HIS fault that we didn't get what most Americans DID want, a public option.
People never wanted gov't. take over of health care. Obamacare is unconstitutional. CNN? Really? Like they are trustworthy.

Outline how it is a government takeover of healthcare?
 
He is the duly elected POTUS.

He and any other elected POTUS are supposed to govern for all the people. How many actually do that is debatable.

The best thing about electing a POTUS is that you don't have to elect him a second time. If the majority of the people don't like the job he did while POTUS they can elect someone else.

Works for me.

when did GWB listen to the people?

You just want to turn the last presidential election on its head to support your partys lies.
The lefty idiots did the same after the 2000 election when gore tried to steal the election, and kept it up for 8 years. Dimwits are socialist idiots.
 
wow, so he doesn't HAVE TO LISTEN to the REST of the people who didn't vote for him, is this what you're saying.?

No, and i have no idea how you reached such a stupid conclusion. Let's try again:

He doesn't have to listen to anybody, period. Upon being duly elected, the President is under no obligation to lead based on polls or the alleged will of the people. He is only obligated to act under rights granted to the Executive branch by the Constitution.

If the public determines that he is not acting in their best interest they can vote him out four years later.

That's because the founders didn't create a pure democracy.

hummm, so you're saying we elect a DICTATOR every four years and if the people don't like it, tough shit.

I suggest you read the Constitution you are so fond of......it is all spelled out there
It says nothing about polls
 
No, and i have no idea how you reached such a stupid conclusion. Let's try again:

He doesn't have to listen to anybody, period. Upon being duly elected, the President is under no obligation to lead based on polls or the alleged will of the people. He is only obligated to act under rights granted to the Executive branch by the Constitution.

If the public determines that he is not acting in their best interest they can vote him out four years later.

That's because the founders didn't create a pure democracy.

hummm, so you're saying we elect a DICTATOR every four years and if the people don't like it, tough shit.

That is precisely what we had to deal with, with President Bush....and 8 years of it, where what the liberals thought and wanted was completely ignored.

yah, it stinks to high heaven, but such is life and such is our Democratic Republic.

And Obama is continuing the failed policies of Bush while being just as much a "dictator." The people loved GWB so much that they decided to give him a 3rd term. Isn't that wonderful?
 
GM was against the peoples will
Just 21% Favor GM Bailout Plan, 67% Oppose - Rasmussen Reports™

Poll for Obama-care
New CNN Poll: 59% Oppose Obamacare | The Foundry
Poll: ObamaCare a bad idea - Live Pulse - POLITICO.com
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf


Lets start there
Thats trillion dollars along with in my opinion pure socialism with GM. Its never personal to me
The discussion is does Obama represent the will of the people?
Soooooooo.....because he was so fuckin' stupid.....it wasn't fair to ask that same question, when Lil' Dumbya's socialist-tendencies forced him to.....


:eusa_eh:

(....Or, do you Teabaggers always give an auto-"pass" to white-boys?)​
 

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