Does Obama represent the will of the people

JRK

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Well, let's start with the FACT that the GM Bailout started under George W Bush.

Now let's talk about that HC poll. From the CNN Poll you cited:

Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country’s health care system – Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

2010
Obama 51%
Republicans in Congress 39%
Both equally/neither (vol.) 10%
No opinion 1%

When President Obama took office, Health Care was one of the top contenders on America's "fix it" list, along with the economy and the environment so it is a bit disingenuous for you to be claiming that the President isn't doing what the people wanted. It certainly isn't HIS fault that we didn't get what most Americans DID want, a public option.
 
When you battle the lies of the right constantly they show up in some polls.
 
Health bill spreads the pain, benefits - USATODAY.com




Poor adults will get Medicaid. Low-income families will get federal subsidies to buy insurance. Small businesses will get tax credits. Children will be able to stay on parents' policies until they turn 26. Seniors will gain additional prescription-drug coverage. People with medical conditions will gain peace of mind because insurers have to cover them.
 
The only ones the Obama represents are his political backers and special interest groups.

He has no USE for the rest of the American people..but this last election showed SOME of the American people are WAKING UP to things. Now lets vote out this ugly thuggish, divisive, race baiting so called, President and his Comrades in Arms in the Democrat party in 2012..
 
Whenever I hear Boehnner or Ryan or even the Right wing "Pundits", they all say something to the effect "The American people want..." or "The American people disagree with this president". Seems that they and only they have the credibility to speak for "The American people".

Isn't this constant line of rhetoric just another arrow in their quiver to de-legitimize this particular president? It's more subtle than 'birther' claims or saddling Jeremiah Wright to Obama's back. Certainly more civil than calling him a Marxist/Socialist/Communist. More acceptable than calling him a terrorist sympathizer or a secret Muslim.

But the message remains: the Right does not see this president as 'one of us' in that charming, old tradition of Conservatives.
 
Well, let's start with the FACT that the GM Bailout started under George W Bush.

Now let's talk about that HC poll. From the CNN Poll you cited:

Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country’s health care system – Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

2010
Obama 51%
Republicans in Congress 39%
Both equally/neither (vol.) 10%
No opinion 1%

When President Obama took office, Health Care was one of the top contenders on America's "fix it" list, along with the economy and the environment so it is a bit disingenuous for you to be claiming that the President isn't doing what the people wanted. It certainly isn't HIS fault that we didn't get what most Americans DID want, a public option.

It looks like his style was not popular

GWB loaned GM the money
Did not give it to them
There is a big difference
beside, does 2 wrongs make a right?
I keep telling you Liberals Obama is nothing But W on super STEROIDS

[The automakers have] three months to put in place plans to structure viable companies – which we believe they can do,” President Bush said. He stressed his reluctancy to have to provide the loans, but said that they were necessary given the current financial turmoil.

President Bush issued the ultimatum that the federal loans must be repaid by March 31 if the automakers do not come up with a viable plan for going forward, “or the only option
will be bankruptcy.”
Bush: GM, Chrysler to receive $17.4b federal loans

What about closing Gitmo?
If it was up to him it would be closed
 
Health bill spreads the pain, benefits - USATODAY.com




Poor adults will get Medicaid. Low-income families will get federal subsidies to buy insurance. Small businesses will get tax credits. Children will be able to stay on parents' policies until they turn 26. Seniors will gain additional prescription-drug coverage. People with medical conditions will gain peace of mind because insurers have to cover them.


Its called spreading the wealth dummy.

Where do you think they will be getting the money to cover all these folks??

Anyone who has coverage will be paying more for it. You don't think the money to cover these folks is gonna magically appar out of nowhere do you?

Oh wait. Its TDM. Of course money grows on a tree and they can just pick as needed.

Never mind.
 
Whenever I hear Boehnner or Ryan or even the Right wing "Pundits", they all say something to the effect "The American people want..." or "The American people disagree with this president". Seems that they and only they have the credibility to speak for "The American people".

Isn't this constant line of rhetoric just another arrow in their quiver to de-legitimize this particular president? It's more subtle than 'birther' claims or saddling Jeremiah Wright to Obama's back. Certainly more civil than calling him a Marxist/Socialist/Communist. More acceptable than calling him a terrorist sympathizer or a secret Muslim.

But the message remains: the Right does not see this president as 'one of us' in that charming, old tradition of Conservatives.

BHO saddled Wright to his back, that has nothing to do with the will of the people
Bin Ladens picture of him dead?
http://www.silobreaker.com/poll-most-want-us-to-release-osamas-death-photos-5_2264545663859556415

The will of the people on his style of health care reform cost his party close to 70 seats in the house
The will of the people was ignored
 
Obama was elected by a majority of votes in the electoral college. He won the popular vote.

He is not required to base every decision on the will of polls.

wow, so he doesn't HAVE TO LISTEN to the REST of the people who didn't vote for him, is this what you're saying.?

How bout that folks. gives you the warm and fuzzies.
 
Obama was elected by a majority of votes in the electoral college. He won the popular vote.

He is not required to base every decision on the will of polls.

You know your total dis respect for our president makes me sick
Your opinion means nothing to no-one
Its so funny to see you Liberals doing this after calling W a cowboy for so long
Thats so funny
 
Obama was elected by a majority of votes in the electoral college. He won the popular vote.

He is not required to base every decision on the will of polls.

wow, so he doesn't HAVE TO LISTEN to the REST of the people who didn't vote for him, is this what you're saying.?

No, and i have no idea how you reached such a stupid conclusion. Let's try again:

He doesn't have to listen to anybody, period. Upon being duly elected, the President is under no obligation to lead based on polls or the alleged will of the people. He is only obligated to act under rights granted to the Executive branch by the Constitution.

If the public determines that he is not acting in their best interest they can vote him out four years later.

That's because the founders didn't create a pure democracy.
 
Health bill spreads the pain, benefits - USATODAY.com




Poor adults will get Medicaid. Low-income families will get federal subsidies to buy insurance. Small businesses will get tax credits. Children will be able to stay on parents' policies until they turn 26. Seniors will gain additional prescription-drug coverage. People with medical conditions will gain peace of mind because insurers have to cover them.

Where did you read this? In the bill?
Let ma add what you just described we all ready have in place (Medicare)
One more thing
Destroying it will not fix another
 
Obama was elected by a majority of votes in the electoral college. He won the popular vote.

He is not required to base every decision on the will of polls.

You know your total dis respect for our president makes me sick
Your opinion means nothing to no-one

My opinion means nothing, yet here you are responding to my opinion.

wow.

Its so funny to see you Liberals doing this after calling W a cowboy for so long
Thats so funny

I never called W a cowboy. He wasn't a cowboy. That was just the image he wanted to create.
 
Obama was elected by a majority of votes in the electoral college. He won the popular vote.

He is not required to base every decision on the will of polls.

wow, so he doesn't HAVE TO LISTEN to the REST of the people who didn't vote for him, is this what you're saying.?

No, and i have no idea how you reached such a stupid conclusion. Let's try again:

He doesn't have to listen to anybody, period. Upon being duly elected, the President is under no obligation to lead based on polls or the alleged will of the people. He is only obligated to act under rights granted to the Executive branch by the Constitution.

If the public determines that he is not acting in their best interest they can vote him out four years later.

That's because the founders didn't create a pure democracy.

hummm, so you're saying we elect a DICTATOR every four years and if the people don't like it, tough shit.
 
Whenever I hear Boehnner or Ryan or even the Right wing "Pundits", they all say something to the effect "The American people want..." or "The American people disagree with this president". Seems that they and only they have the credibility to speak for "The American people".

Isn't this constant line of rhetoric just another arrow in their quiver to de-legitimize this particular president? It's more subtle than 'birther' claims or saddling Jeremiah Wright to Obama's back. Certainly more civil than calling him a Marxist/Socialist/Communist. More acceptable than calling him a terrorist sympathizer or a secret Muslim.

But the message remains: the Right does not see this president as 'one of us' in that charming, old tradition of Conservatives.

BHO saddled Wright to his back, that has nothing to do with the will of the people
Bin Ladens picture of him dead?
Poll: Most want U.S. to release Osama's death phot... - Silobreaker

The will of the people on his style of health care reform cost his party close to 70 seats in the house
The will of the people was ignored
Gee! I didn't think invading Iraq was a good idea. In fact, it was against my will. Same goes for rolling back regulations on reducing pollutants, union rights, stem cell research, torturing humans, sending POWs to Guantanamo Bay, bailing out Wall Street investment firms, restricting abortion availability and granting no-bid contracts to firms the vice president ran. But that's my will. And I'm an American.

Strange how that works out!
 

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