Does Obama have a "real" jobs plan or just more govt spending?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Grampa Murked U, Aug 18, 2011.

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Is Obamas plan for jobs going to be.....

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    I can't believe that he hasn't released the details of his plan to the public. If he really had a legit plan wouldn't he want it known now so the public has time to put pressure on their congressmen while they are home visiting the people they represent?

    On the contrary, I don't think his plan is anything more than stimulus and taxes. Neither of which will work any better than his last failed stimulus. This man is completely clueless.
     
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    Yep a question there. He may have a jobs plan that involves more spending. I however doubt it will fly thru congress.
    And keep in mind that Obama is an extension of the Bush admin.
     
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    Excellent question, GM.

    A stimulus response can work to revive this economy, but of course it actually needs to include real live new jobs and not just "shovel ready" projects that would have been done anyway.

    Per usual I will note that tax cuts or tax increases won't do anything to change the employment picture.

    Industries will hire more people when they see that the economy can absorb the new products, and not before.
     
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    The only jobs plan at this point that would not involve government spending would be the 'Wait it Out' plan.
     
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    Another war would be a jobs plan.

    A piss poor one but it would create jobs.

    It worked for the prior admn.
     
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    Should the government stop all spending?
     
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    Govt jobs a lot of times are a complete waste of our tax dollars. Here where I live they are repaving all the streets in our neighborhood. Thing is, there was nothing wrong with them to begin with. Likewise, they are digging up perfectly good sidewalks just to widen them.

    There is a tremendous amount of waste in so called govt jobs.
     
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    It is a good question and US is right. Another stimulus bill will not get through the House so it can't be that.

    Will just have to wait till Sept. to find out.
     
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    Chris Matthews had a great idea. Bundle up all the "real" public works projects into one big bill..and make it mandatory to spend all funding on those projects. These would be projects that for the most part have been requested by representatives for their districts.

    The "problem" with the last stimulus package was that it was to small, wasn't specific about where the money went..and a good amount of it was in tax cuts.
     
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    According to WaPo, the plan is expected to include tax *cuts*, not increases. I think from a policy perspective a short-term jobs plan / stimulus has merits, but politically it depends on being seen as the first and not the second. I think the ideal policy would have short-term spending/tax incentives coupled to long-term deficit reduction measures.

    I assume the reason the plan isn't released is because it isn't finished yet. It's not clear to me that waiting would provide any political benefit. I think you're setting the bar too high when your poll asks for "new ideas" -- any economic plan is necessarily going to rely largely on a mix of policy levers that have been pulled in various combinations in the past. I don't think anyone thinks Obama has hit upon some brilliant idea that is going to immediately fix the economy.
     

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