Does it suprise anyone? Thanks Italy! :(

nycflasher said:
Well ,let's just be happy their lives were spared, while so many others aren't as fortunate.

Thanking them, though? That is a little much. How about thanking whoever secured your release.

Deffinately going to have to agree with you there. Why thank the captures who put you in danger to begin with?
 
nycflasher said:
Well ,let's just be happy their lives were spared, while so many others aren't as fortunate.

Thanking them, though? That is a little much. How about thanking whoever secured your release.

i agree. i think it's pretty damn offensive,myself. seems like a slap in the face to those men and women trying to free that country from the bastards that kidnapped them!!!
 
Avatar4321 said:
He didnt insult you. He asked a question: If you had to choose between someone who wanted to kill all gays for President or someone who only wanted to talk you out of it, which would you prefer?

Now put yourself in the mindset of the terrorist. do you want someone who wanted to kill all terrorists in power or someone who wants to talk you out of it?

How is that an insult?

Let D stand up for himself, I thought you all didn't like lawyers. ;)
Kerry does not have sympathy for terrorists. He would rather see them dead or caught than anything else. Is that what D was talking about? Using "homos" to illustrate a point about terrorists, I see. Very colorful.
 
krisy said:
i also saw on the news today that these two girls thanked "the irai resistance'. i don't like the sound of that. they almost sound to me like they enjoyed their stay with the terrorists. :bat:

I agree Krisy. One news report I saw quoted the girls as saying that Italian troops should get out of Iraq.
 
I don't know what to believe. Early today, the Italian Foreign Minister claimed that no ransom was paid. Now this:

Spies 'Brokered $1m Hostage Ransom Deal'
By Bruce Johnston in Rome
(Filed: 30/09/2004)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/30/witaly30.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/30/ixnewstop.html

Italian intelligence officials were closely involved in the release of the two female aid workers held hostage in Iraq, it emerged yesterday.
It is suspected that they were freed in exchange for a $1 million ransom, a belief that has cast a cloud over national celebrations of the release.
As Simona Pari and Simona Torretta, both 29, spoke after three weeks in captivity, it was reported that Italian intelligence and the Italian Red Cross, acting with a trusted junior government minister, were closely involved in the negotiations.
According to La Repubblica newspaper, the deal also included an agreement that 30 sick Iraqi children would be sent to Italy. Last night the Italian Red Cross said six children and three adults had arrived for hospital treatment.
Miss Torretta told magistrates that their captors sent them on their way with 10 copies of the Koran translated into English, and copious supplies of sweets. The two women were interviewed in the early hours after they flew into Rome on Tuesday night on board a chartered executive jet.
It was not immediately clear where the ransom money came from. But the prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi - a media tycoon whose political popularity has been badly eroded by criticism of the country's presence in Iraq - has been known to dip into his own pocket in the past.
"At first they were hard on us. We were kept blindfolded for days," the women said. "During our captivity the kidnappers did their own investigating in order to find out who we were," said Miss Torretta, who spent the day at home yesterday.
"The information they obtained showed that our work had been transparent and in the interests of the Iraqi people. In the end they actually asked our forgiveness.
"They treated us with great respect, and were even attentive to our needs," said Miss Torretta, who headed the office in Baghdad of the Bridge to Baghdad charity, which worked in health and education. The women were seized at gunpoint from the office on Sept 7.
Miss Pari told reporters yesterday: "I am serene, and very well. I hope I can return to Iraq quickly. It's a country I truly love. I'd like to send my best wishes and a big kiss to everyone in Iraq, and all our friends there."
The women said they did not know where they were held, but in today's issue the Italian magazine Panorama, which is owned by Mr Berlusconi, claims that they were most recently in a large "western style" villa 30 miles outside Baghdad.
The magazine said Italian intelligence had pinpointed their whereabouts on Monday. American intelligence, employing satellite technology, later confirmed this. Other people were kept in the villa, including "several other westerners", it added.
The release was arranged through a Lebanese middleman. Corriere della Sera newspaper said negotiations began in earnest on Saturday night when the kidnappers released a tape on which the voices of the "two Simonas" had been recorded the same day.
"This was the proof that the channel opened by the Red Cross was the correct one," the Corriere said, adding that Italian intelligence, with agreement of Gianni Letta, a junior minister trusted by Mr Berlusconi and known for his diplomatic skills, and Maurizio Scelli of the Red Cross opened negotiations.
The paper said the original demands were a ransom of $5 million and withdrawal of Italian troops from Iraq, which were treated as a starting point.
On Sunday a government official flew to Iraq and on Monday an Italian secret service source made contact with the kidnappers and was given details of the women's condition via a tribal chief.
A deal was then reached to pay the $1 million ransom in two instalments.
 
Avatar4321 said:
Your joking right? Kerry will create an even bigger rift between the international community. I mean he has already offended PM Allawi, all of our coalition of the "bribed and coerced", has his sister trying to influence Austrialia elections for the people who want to pull out of our coalition. Exactly how will Kerry unite the International community when he has already offended everyone who is with us and everyone who isnt has already said they wont join us if Kerry is President?


Have you seen his sister????ROLF Yak spit :D
 
nycflasher said:
You're the worst kind of ignorant asshole, dude. Can't even stand behind your insults? :dunno:

You spend way too much time thinking about who the terrorists want elected. They don't get to vote, so it doesn't matter.

If you're trying to illustrate a point I suggest using a pencil in the future as I imagine it will take you several drafts until you convince ANYONE of ANYTHING.

Have a good night.

Was that called for?

Would you LIKE me to be insulting?
 
nycflasher said:
You spend way too much time thinking about who the terrorists want elected. They don't get to vote, so it doesn't matter.

Actually in the case of the Spain elections, in a way, the terrorist DID get to vote - and they got their wish. A passive Prime Miinister..

Don't fool yourself, the same thing could happen here - another attack in the hopes of getting Kerry elected...
 
-=d=- said:
I'm not trying to be insulting; I picked an example and used it to illustrate my point. No offense intended.

The argument that terrorist would want GWB re-elected IS a 'retarded' argument.

You were trying to be insulting. And now you are trying to insult our intelligence by claiming otherwise.

-=d=- said:
That argument could be made - but it's a retarded argument.

Let's put it in a way you would understand... As a homo, who would YOU want in charge - the guy who wants to kill all your kind, or the guy who feels you could 'talk it out'?

You're exposed for the bigot you are =d=.
 
-=d=- said:
Was that called for?

Would you LIKE me to be insulting?

You already are insulting =d=. What he would like has nothing to do with it.
 
wade said:
You were trying to be insulting. And now you are trying to insult our intelligence by claiming otherwise.



You're exposed for the bigot you are =d=.

Your vocabulary skills suck, too

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Use of 'bigot' does not apply.


In this usage, 'homo' is short for 'homosexual' - which means 'one who enjoys having sex with other (same) of the sex.
 

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