Does Individualism have any value?

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  1. SobieskiSavedEurope
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    Nero Fiddled as Rome burned.
    - Basically the Individualist mentality, as long as I got mine, who cares about the societal collective.

    To me Individualism has absolutely no value. To put the needs of yourself over the greater societal issues.

    Individualists typically don't seem to be aware of societal issues very much, it's like they lack greater awareness, both in terms of moral principles, and greater understanding.

    Individualists don't seem to understand that there's a need to solve serious issues, or else you're left with junk.

    Individualism tends to not value cultural aspirations, the environment, the poor, and suffering.

    Basically Individualism is about "Me, Mine, and Now"

    Individualism truly belongs in the trash can of history.
     
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    Golly, you must have been hoarding for quite some time to have accumulated such a massive stash of straw.

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    So you have given up all your property to the collective?

    You have nothing that you own right?

    Because ownership of personal property is individualism.
     
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    Extreme Collectivism is bad too.

    Still, Extreme Individualism is the worst.

    An Extreme form of Individualism would say do not judge murderers, don't judge violent invaders, don't care about the poor, don't care about destruction of the environment, don't care about culture, just live for the Individual, and judge as Individuals.

    I swear that extreme Individualists are probably Autistic or something, not grasping that there are groups, or collectives, and more than just Individual aspirations.
     
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    You're well on your way to building an entire brigade of straw men.....Good job.

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    Humans have been collectivists since the beginning.
    What has that gotten us? Death. Oppression. Discrimination by the state. Abuse of power.
    Individualism is progress. Choice is progress.
    Statism is regressive.
    It's time for the human to grow up and realize people are happier when they can be who they want and what they want.
     
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    Hmm, as if the most Individualist populations AKA British in the UK, USA, Australia, and Canada are for less death, and oppression?

    Really? Rather than being one of the most benign, Brits are one of the most oppressive, war mongering, slave crazed, and genocidal regimes of all time.
     
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    Lol Brits are statists.
    Thanks for proving my point, genius.
     
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    Govt is always the problem.
    With liberty, you dont need a big govt.
    This thread is stupid.
     
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    Racial collectivism, yes. Global collectivism, no.
     

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