Does gun control work???

[BOBO]

By looking at the following link...

Digging into China

...I'd say no. Weather gun control or non nuclear proliferation pacts people as well as governments will not disarm themselves for fear of hostile human/government aggression. I must ask, does the above link prove my point???

 

[chikenwing]

With a firm grip training and a clear target,ya gun control works,all the others don't so much.

 

[Liberty]

guns don't kill people. people kill people.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The reality in the US is that in those locals with less restrictions crime goes or stays down while those with the most restrictive laws crime is much higher.

 

[spectrumc01]

guns don't kill people. people kill people.

.......but they help.

I support controling the guns of idiots and crazy people.

 

[Mr.Nick]

It doesn't.. The Second Amendment is just as viable as the First or the Fifth...

The ching-chong-bing-bong authoritarian fools have no such decoration - thanks to Mao...

 

[jgarden]

The reality in the US is that in those locals with less restrictions crime goes or stays down while those with the most restrictive laws crime is much higher.

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.
"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.
The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009 ..... In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day. People in his city of about 215,000 .....

Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.
"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

..... According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

..... Canadians pay higher property, income and education taxes than in the United States, Blaine said. "It's going to cost more to live in Canada." Windsor, while having low-income areas, does not have slums, he said. A social welfare system is designed "to keep people from falling in the gutter."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/25/world/americas/canada-windsor-first-homicide/index.html

The Windsor/Detroit comparison provides the classic example of 2 entirely different approaches to handguns.

- Windsor with approximately 30% of Detroit's population has just experienced its 1st homicide since late September 2009 - a period of 26 months.

- Detroit, which is within walking distance of Windsor, averages almost 1 homicide every day.

- Windsor is a city that has strict handgun rules, few gun shops and a population where gun owners are few and far between. Ontario police say restrictive gun laws are an important factor in reducing the number of homicides.

- Canadians are willing to pay higher taxes to provide a better financed public education and social welfare system which has resulted in less economic disparity and "a kinder, gentler society."

 

[eflatminor]

If by "work" you mean gun control keeps firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens so only the law breakers have guns, then yes, it works. But hey, the police are always armed so remember, when seconds count, the cops are just minutes away. Good luck with that.

 

[spectrumc01]

The reality in the US is that in those locals with less restrictions crime goes or stays down while those with the most restrictive laws crime is much higher.

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.
"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.
The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009 ..... In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day. People in his city of about 215,000 .....

Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.
"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

..... According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

..... Canadians pay higher property, income and education taxes than in the United States, Blaine said. "It's going to cost more to live in Canada." Windsor, while having low-income areas, does not have slums, he said. A social welfare system is designed "to keep people from falling in the gutter."

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months - CNN.com

The Windsor/Detroit comparison provides the classic example of 2 entirely different approaches to handguns.

- Windsor with approximately 30% of Detroit's population has just experienced its 1st homicide since late September 2009 - a period of 26 months.

- Detroit, which is within walking distance of Windsor, averages almost 1 homicide every day.

- Windsor is a city that has strict handgun rules, few gun shops and a population where gun owners are few and far between. Ontario police say restrictive gun laws are an important factor in reducing the number of homicides.

- Canadians are willing to pay higher taxes to provide a better financed public education and social welfare system which has resulted in "a kinder, gentler society."

Gun control has nothing to do with that statistic, as people would like to think, imo . It all has to do with the Canadians realizing that they are all in it together, and so they try to help the poor lift themselves up. Here we have the wealthy trying their best to keep the poor down until violence erupts.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The reality in the US is that in those locals with less restrictions crime goes or stays down while those with the most restrictive laws crime is much higher.

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.
"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.
The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009 ..... In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day. People in his city of about 215,000 .....

Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.
"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

..... According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

..... Canadians pay higher property, income and education taxes than in the United States, Blaine said. "It's going to cost more to live in Canada." Windsor, while having low-income areas, does not have slums, he said. A social welfare system is designed "to keep people from falling in the gutter."

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months - CNN.com

The Windsor/Detroit comparison provides the classic example of 2 entirely different approaches to handguns.

- Windsor with approximately 30% of Detroit's population has just experienced its 1st homicide since late September 2009 - a period of 26 months.

- Detroit, which is within walking distance of Windsor, averages almost 1 homicide every day.

- Windsor is a city that has strict handgun rules, few gun shops and a population where gun owners are few and far between. Ontario police say restrictive gun laws are an important factor in reducing the number of homicides.

- Canadians are willing to pay higher taxes to provide a better financed public education and social welfare system which has resulted in "a kinder, gentler society."

Gun control has nothing to do with that statistic, as people would like to think, imo . It all has to do with the Canadians realizing that they are all in it together, and so they try to help the poor lift themselves up. Here we have the wealthy trying their best to keep the poor down until violence erupts.

also compared to Detroit, Windsor is pretty nice.....eliminate the gun violence by the Gang Bangers in Detroit and this article would be pointless.....

 

[AquaAthena]

By looking at the following link...

Digging into China

...I'd say no. Weather gun control or non nuclear proliferation pacts people as well as governments will not disarm themselves for fear of hostile human/government aggression. I must ask, does the above link prove my point???

I'd say the more "control" we try to place on many things, the more resistance we get and the more "it" proliferates.

 

[jgarden]

The reality in the US is that in those locals with less restrictions crime goes or stays down while those with the most restrictive laws crime is much higher.

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months
November 26, 2011

Windsor, Ontario, has its first homicide since September 2009
Police there say tough gun laws are a factor in the low number of homicides
Across the river, Detroit sees almost one homicide a day

(CNN) -- In his 60 years, Arnold Blaine has known only two people who've owned a gun: one a hunter, the other a nightclub owner.
"We don't even have gun shops," said the Windsor, Ontario, business owner.
The paucity of guns is one of three factors police in the city across the river from Detroit cite for its low homicide rate. The 25-year average for homicides is about 5.24 a year.

Thursday, Windsor reported its first homicide since late September 2009 ..... In Detroit, home to about 713,000 people last year, homicides occur nearly once a day. People in his city of about 215,000 .....

Unlike the United States, Canada has very strict federal gun-ownership laws.
"You can own a handgun here if you have a purpose for it," the police spokesman said. "The main purpose is for target and sport shooting."

..... According to the FBI, Detroit had 310 homicides in 2010, a drop from 2009. The police department's website indicates that the 2010 number was 268, but it acknowledges the 2011 tally will be much higher. Earlier this week, it stood at 309, according to the website.

..... Canadians pay higher property, income and education taxes than in the United States, Blaine said. "It's going to cost more to live in Canada." Windsor, while having low-income areas, does not have slums, he said. A social welfare system is designed "to keep people from falling in the gutter."

Canadian border city has first homicide in 26 months - CNN.com

The Windsor/Detroit comparison provides the classic example of 2 entirely different approaches to handguns.

- Windsor with approximately 30% of Detroit's population has just experienced its 1st homicide since late September 2009 - a period of 26 months.

- Detroit, which is within walking distance of Windsor, averages almost 1 homicide every day.

- Windsor is a city that has strict handgun rules, few gun shops and a population where gun owners are few and far between. Ontario police say restrictive gun laws are an important factor in reducing the number of homicides.

- Canadians are willing to pay higher taxes to provide a better financed public education and social welfare system which has resulted in "a kinder, gentler society."

Gun control has nothing to do with that statistic, as people would like to think, imo . It all has to do with the Canadians realizing that they are all in it together, and so they try to help the poor lift themselves up. Here we have the wealthy trying their best to keep the poor down until violence erupts.

When a 60 year old Windsor resident, who lives just across the river from Detroit, personally knows of only 2 gun owners in the entire city - that says it all.

Canadians look at America and have long since come to the conclusion that their personal safety doesn't revolve around having access to handguns.

The marked discrepency in the homicide rates between Windsor and Detroit would suggest that Canadians are doing something right.

 

[eflatminor]

The marked discrepency in the homicide rates beetween Windsor and Detroit would suggest that Canadians are doing something right.

Of course, the demographics between the city of Detroit and the country of Canada are nearly identical...right? Why didn't you compare Canada to say, North Dakota? I wonder...

Also, it is interesting to note that after enacting stringent gun control laws in 1991 and 1995, Canada has not made its citizens any safer. "The contrast between the criminal violence rates in the United States and in Canada is dramatic," says Canadian criminologist Gary Mauser in 2003. "Over the past decade, the rate of violent crime in Canada has increased while in the United States the violent crime rate has plummeted."

But whatever, don't let facts get in the way of your stance against the Bill of Rights.

 

[jgarden]

also compared to Detroit, Windsor is pretty nice.....eliminate the gun violence by the Gang Bangers in Detroit and this article would be pointless.....

The marked discrepency in the homicide rates between Windsor and Detroit would suggest that Canadians are doing something right.

Of course, the demographics between the city of Detroit and the country of Canada are nearly identical...right? Why didn't you compare Canada to say, North Dakota? I wonder...

Also, it is interesting to note that after enacting stringent gun control laws in 1991 and 1995, Canada has not made its citizens any safer. "The contrast between the criminal violence rates in the United States and in Canada is dramatic," says Canadian criminologist Gary Mauser in 2003. "Over the past decade, the rate of violent crime in Canada has increased while in the United States the violent crime rate has plummeted."

But whatever, don't let facts get in the way of your stance against the Bill of Rights.

1. Windsor and Detroit are obvious comparisons because they are 2 cities in very close proximity, but with totally different approaches to gun ownership and social policies.

2. Toronto is more ethnically diverse than Miami, Los Angeles, and New York City - 49.9% of Toronto's population is foreign-born.
Over 20% of Windsor's population is foreign-born, which is the fourth-highest % for any Canadian city. Visible minorities also make up 21.0% of the population, making Windsor the most diverse city in Ontario outside of the Greater Toronto Area.

3. Windsor and Toronto have nothing in common with North Dakota. Their differences with Detroit stems from the fact that Canadians have invested more heavily in public education and social programs which have attempted to prevent the development of the extreme poverty and hopelessness.

4. The FBI in Detroit recorded 310 homicides in 2010 while the police department indicates that the number was 268. That translates into 1 murder every 1.17 to 1.36 days.
By comparison, the Greater Toronto Area which has a population of 5.5 million (as compared to Detroit's 713,000) had 60 homicides in 2010 (approximately 1 every 6.08 days).

5. The GTA has gangs too, but there is a higher crime rate in Detroit, and most other US cities for a reason and the most obvious difference identified by the police is the ease of access to handguns.

 

[bripat9643]

guns don't kill people. people kill people.

.......but they help.

I support controling the guns of idiots and crazy people.

I also support taking guns away from liberals, especially the ones who support gun control.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Gun control works very well in Japan.

Criminals have a very reliable source for their guns here.......the drawers and shoeboxes of dumb-assed American gun owners.

One kid accidentally shooting his little brother to death is too many, isn't it?

 

[LoneLaugher]

BTW....I own a gun and my son is about to enter the police academy. Too many nutters packing for me not to have mine.

 

[JoeB131]

my own thought- a pox on both their houses.

Gun Control advocates work on an assumption that criminals will obey gun laws when they break all the others.

Gun Rights advocates work on an assumption that we need to let the Jared Loughners of the world buy guns because if he can't, that's a limit on our freedom.

Somewhere in the middle, we should have a sensible rule where gun owners are checked out, licensed and allowed to buy guns if they otherwise obey the law....

Too bad we can't get there with the Bradys and LaPeires of the world...

 

[LoneLaugher]

my own thought- a pox on both their houses.

Gun Control advocates work on an assumption that criminals will obey gun laws when they break all the others.
Gun Rights advocates work on an assumption that we need to let the Jared Loughners of the world buy guns because if he can't, that's a limit on our freedom.

Somewhere in the middle, we should have a sensible rule where gun owners are checked out, licensed and allowed to buy guns if they otherwise obey the law....

Too bad we can't get there with the Bradys and LaPeires of the world...

No. they do not work on that assumption at all.

 

[JoeB131]

my own thought- a pox on both their houses.

Gun Control advocates work on an assumption that criminals will obey gun laws when they break all the others.
Gun Rights advocates work on an assumption that we need to let the Jared Loughners of the world buy guns because if he can't, that's a limit on our freedom.

Somewhere in the middle, we should have a sensible rule where gun owners are checked out, licensed and allowed to buy guns if they otherwise obey the law....

Too bad we can't get there with the Bradys and LaPeires of the world...

No. they do not work on that assumption at all.

Actually, they really do.

Chicago had the toughest gun laws in the country, and had the highest gun murder rate in the country.

And Richie Daley kept whining about how guns shops in the burbs were selling guns that found their way into Chicago...