Does God want us to judge him?

[Avatar4321]

there is no god --so the question cannot be answered

Prove it.


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It is easier to prove existence than non-existence so prove our friend wrong, if you can.

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DL

Nope. Its his job to back up what he says.


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You gave him a logical fallacy which is an inherently dishonest tactic as such are impossible to prove. His was a logical error. Yours is a dishonest tactic.

Thanks for showing your Christianity.

Regards
DL

The burden of proof is clearly on the person made the claim.

If he can’t prove it, he shouldn’t of made the claim. It’s not a logical fallacy glass in the back himself up.

Do you even know what a logical fallacy is?

 

[GreatestIam]

Judge Him if you want. He'll tell you the same thing He told Job. "And where were you when I was creating the earth?"

And for the record, Christ never found God wanting.... You're a liar.

All who claim to know anything of a supernatural God or realm are liars, just like you are. Shall we spend all day calling each other liars or is your I Q up for something better?

If Jesus did not find God wanting, why did he replace him as our judge?

Regards
DL

Christ usurped nothing. His authority was a given to Him by His loving Father:

All things have been handed over to Me by My Father

Here is why:

"The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand".

This is the result:

even as You (<God) gave Him (<Jesus) authority over all flesh, that to all (<us) whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

^ What God gave Christ, is passed on from Christ to us. We are co-heirs with Christ. God loves His children that much.

Why do you feel the need to persecute our Savior and our Father? One died for your sins and the other put them so far behind Him He doesn't even remember your sins anymore. They were nailed to the cross and left there.
Accept the gift of life that Jesus offers you and all God sees when He looks at you is the shinning coat of Christ's purity.

All faith based lies that you cannot prove.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

God is the only one Who has a right to judge. We don't: it's a deadly sin.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Period.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7:1-3 - King James Version

Wow that’s way out of context.

John 7:24 “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

Jesus is clearly commanding us to judge.

There is an entire book of the Bible dedicated to the men and women God called to judge Israel and her enemies.

1 cor 6:2-3

“Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

“Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?”

The Saints are called to judge the world and angels.

Deadly sin? Not in any Bible I’ve read

Decent apologetics which is a nice thing to see for a change.

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

You will note that as having inherited our moral sense from A & E, and since that quote does not specify saints, we are all asked to judge good and evil.

This must be so as there are no saints around. The closest we might find are Gnostic Christian Parfait, or any Gnostic Christians as they have the balls to judge that Christians lack.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Does God want us to judge him?


I think that God wants us to judge him. We are to emulate Jesus. Jesus judged God and found him wanting.


Upon taking the judgement seat, Jesus indicated that it was time to retire Yahweh. Jesus saw Yahweh as no longer fit to rule over or judge man. Man had in essence graduated to his rightful place as the judge of all the Gods.


Christians, who are told by their own scriptures to judge righteously, are not doing so when it comes to Yahweh.


1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.


Yahweh is quite a vile God. It is no wonder that Yahweh does not show his face around Christians. They would kill him. Jesus did say that he came to bring War. Perhaps he meant war against God, which would be following Jewish tradition.


If God wants us to judge him, why do most Christians not judge God in a righteous and moral manner?


Place no God above me, means that God wants us to judge all the Gods, including himself, to insure he is the best of the best. How else could we know that Yahweh was the best God to follow?


Do you agree, or are we not supposed to judge God?


Regards

DL

Considering Jesus is Yahweh you’re clearly misinformed. The rest of your rant makes little more sense

Only if you buy into the really stupid and ridiculous Trinity concept with it's three un-equal Gods who somehow make on God.

Regards
DL

 

[Vastator]

God is the only one Who has a right to judge. We don't: it's a deadly sin.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Period.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7:1-3 - King James Version

We were allegedly given "freewill"; therefore a divine right to do just that...

 

[GreatestIam]

there is no god --so the question cannot be answered

Prove it.


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It is easier to prove existence than non-existence so prove our friend wrong, if you can.

Regards
DL

I know by the power of the Holy Ghost that God the Father lives and loves you. I know that Jesus Christ came to atone for our sins. I am a witness

You are a liar.

You would have Jesus break the law he said he came to fulfill.

Like these that he preached directly against your vile scapegoating policy.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Keep pushing your immoral views though. You do my work for me of showing how immoral your vile religion is.

Bishop John Shelby Spong: Why Atonement Theology will Kill Christianity


Regards
DL

 

[Vastator]

God is the only one Who has a right to judge. We don't: it's a deadly sin.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Period.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7:1-3 - King James Version

So... This "God" may contradict itself?

 

[GreatestIam]

there is no god --so the question cannot be answered

Prove it.


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It is easier to prove existence than non-existence so prove our friend wrong, if you can.

Regards
DL

Nope. Its his job to back up what he says.


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You gave him a logical fallacy which is an inherently dishonest tactic as such are impossible to prove. His was a logical error. Yours is a dishonest tactic.

Thanks for showing your Christianity.

Regards
DL

The burden of proof is clearly on the person made the claim.

Correct.

Positive claims can be proven. Negative claims are impossible to prove.

That is why most of the more intelligent atheists tend to claim/say there is likely no God instead of there is not God.

Regards
DL

 

[Vastator]

Judge Him if you want. He'll tell you the same thing He told Job. "And where were you when I was creating the earth?"

And for the record, Christ never found God wanting.... You're a liar.

All who claim to know anything of a supernatural God or realm are liars, just like you are. Shall we spend all day calling each other liars or is your I Q up for something better?

If Jesus did not find God wanting, why did he replace him as our judge?

Regards
DL

Christ usurped nothing. His authority was a given to Him by His loving Father:

All things have been handed over to Me by My Father

Here is why:

"The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand".

This is the result:

even as You (<God) gave Him (<Jesus) authority over all flesh, that to all (<us) whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

^ What God gave Christ, is passed on from Christ to us. We are co-heirs with Christ. God loves His children that much.

Why do you feel the need to persecute our Savior and our Father? One died for your sins and the other put them so far behind Him He doesn't even remember your sins anymore. They were nailed to the cross and left there.
Accept the gift of life that Jesus offers you and all God sees when He looks at you is the shinning coat of Christ's purity.

I don't yield to leadership of birthright. In my world... You earn it. Entitlement Jesus can hit the back of the line with everyone else that thinks they're owed something...

 

[harmonica]

god told someone something??!!!??
very ridiculous and cannot be proved

God 's proof is prophecy. He told us what would happen thousands of years into the future because He exists outside of linear time. You can't even tell me who will win the Super Bowl in a few weeks...

that's no proof at all
examples please
specifics

 

[Toro]

Why is God so insecure that he needs us to worship him?

He's God!

Why would he give a fuck if we bow down and kneel before Him or not?

 

[harmonica]

there is no god --so the question cannot be answered

Prove it.


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It is easier to prove existence than non-existence so prove our friend wrong, if you can.

Regards
DL

Nope. Its his job to back up what he says.


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You gave him a logical fallacy which is an inherently dishonest tactic as such are impossible to prove. His was a logical error. Yours is a dishonest tactic.

Thanks for showing your Christianity.

Regards
DL

The burden of proof is clearly on the person made the claim.

If he can’t prove it, he shouldn’t of made the claim. It’s not a logical fallacy glass in the back himself up.

Do you even know what a logical fallacy is?

exactly
the claimers are saying there is a god
that's the INITIAL claim

 

[ding]

Why is God so insecure that he needs us to worship him?

He's God!

Why would he give a fuck if we bow down and kneel before Him or not?

Fo one you were made to worship. So you are going to worship something. The only choice you have in the matter is what you choose.

 

[ding]

Does God want us to judge him?


I think that God wants us to judge him. We are to emulate Jesus. Jesus judged God and found him wanting.


Upon taking the judgement seat, Jesus indicated that it was time to retire Yahweh. Jesus saw Yahweh as no longer fit to rule over or judge man. Man had in essence graduated to his rightful place as the judge of all the Gods.


Christians, who are told by their own scriptures to judge righteously, are not doing so when it comes to Yahweh.


1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.


Yahweh is quite a vile God. It is no wonder that Yahweh does not show his face around Christians. They would kill him. Jesus did say that he came to bring War. Perhaps he meant war against God, which would be following Jewish tradition.


If God wants us to judge him, why do most Christians not judge God in a righteous and moral manner?


Place no God above me, means that God wants us to judge all the Gods, including himself, to insure he is the best of the best. How else could we know that Yahweh was the best God to follow?


Do you agree, or are we not supposed to judge God?


Regards

DL

Considering Jesus is Yahweh you’re clearly misinformed. The rest of your rant makes little more sense

Only if you buy into the really stupid and ridiculous Trinity concept with it's three un-equal Gods who somehow make on God.

Regards
DL

285 Since the beginning the Christian faith has been challenged by responses to the question of origins that differ from its own. Ancient religions and cultures produced many myths concerning origins. Some philosophers have said that everything is God, that the world is God, or that the development of the world is the development of God (Pantheism). Others have said that the world is a necessary emanation arising from God and returning to him. Still others have affirmed the existence of two eternal principles, Good and Evil, Light and Darkness, locked, in permanent conflict (Dualism, Manichaeism). According to some of these conceptions, the world (at least the physical world) is evil, the product of a fall, and is thus to be rejected or left behind (Gnosticism). Some admit that the world was made by God, but as by a watch-maker who, once he has made a watch, abandons it to itself (Deism). Finally, others reject any transcendent origin for the world, but see it as merely the interplay of matter that has always existed (Materialism). All these attempts bear witness to the permanence and universality of the question of origins. This inquiry is distinctively human.

Catechism of the Catholic Church - The Creator

 

[Mike Dwight]

I like that question because it makes me think of the Tree of Life and Knowledge in the Garden of Eden and God didn't want humanity to eat of the Tree of Knowledge to know Good and Evil like Him, so, pretty clearly say he didn't want to be judged, and then people end up being haters.

 

[harmonica]

Why is God so insecure that he needs us to worship him?

He's God!

Why would he give a fuck if we bow down and kneel before Him or not?

Fo one you were made to worship. So you are going to worship something. The only choice you have in the matter is what you choose.

made to worship??
we are just above animals
we love lights/sounds/flashy this and that
I don't worship anything
we live and die--that's it

 

[MaryL]

Which God? The one that loves us as his children, or the wrathful and destructive god? The almighty creator that always existed? Or the one that we made up to help us deal with being mortal? The Christian God? The Jewish God? The Muslim God? Or the others, Odin? Zeus? Ra?

 

[toobfreak]

Does God want us to judge him?

Silly person, you don't judge God. You are not in even the remotest way in any position to "judge" God.

How can you judge what you cannot even comprehend? God is infinitely more than anything you can possibly imagine.

Only an atheist or agnostic would think of such a question.

All God wants from you is your unconditional love. Save your judgement for yourself.

 

[toobfreak]

there is no god --so the question cannot be answered

You sound like the proverbial BLIND MAN
declaring that light is but a fantasy of the mind.

 

[harmonica]

there is no god --so the question cannot be answered

You sound like the proverbial BLIND MAN
declaring that light is but a fantasy of the mind.

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no god--not proven
plain and simple
what don't you understand about that?
your post makes sense