Does Choking Public Sector Unions Save States?

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    The Rude Pundit

    This person evidentially does not think so. Anyone care to dispute his facts?

    Anyone?
     
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    When I read this:
    I'm done. Can you leftists find anybody on your side that can make a cogent case instead of paragraphs of childish demonization and name calling?

    Whoever this guy is, he very pedestrian and extremely full of shit.
     
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    Do Public Sector Unions choke States?



     
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    The Rude Pundit is wrong.

    There is a lot more in the noxious fiscal stew besides excessive pay and benefits for current public employee. I'll bet that the problems in Indiana consist of a combination of the following:

    - Pensions and health care for public employees that predated the elimination of unions.
    - Drop in tax receipts due to the moribund effects of Obamanomics.
    - The burden of unfunded and underfunded federal mandates such as Medicaid.
    - The regulatory and tax uncertainties that are causing businesses to put investment on hold.
    - Unemployment claims for those who cannot find jobs in the horrible Obama Recovery.
     
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    Fair enough, boedicca. How will killing Indiana public employee unions solve any of those problems?
     
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    I've stated this before, private sector unions, whatever. I wouldn't join one and I can't imagine why anyone would. But hey, it's a free country. My experience with unions is that their members' loyalties are with the union first. I have a BIG problem with public servants, yes servants, beholden to a union and not their bosses... the taxpayer. The practice should be outlawed.. PERIOD.
     
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    Virginia doesnt have public sector unions. They are currently running a surplus and cutting taxes.

    Coincidence? Maybe. But im willing to bet otherwise.
     
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    Yes, I know you feel this way, Soggy. I just need a lucid explanation as to how a state without public sector unions is suddenly free of its deficit or any other economic problem.

    I'm all ears here.
     
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    Fair enough? Absolutely nothing she posted is correct..in any way.

    And if this trend continues..the eviseration of public Unions..look forward to a further weaking of the Democratic Republic..and a shift toward Plutocracy. Which is the aim of Conservatives anyway. Gut government and create a de-facto Autocracy...for and by the rich.

    It's always been like that..it will always be like that.
     
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    I don't think anyone is arguing that getting the unions out of government will eliminate state's deficits all by themselves. That's as silly as arguing that the deficit will be eliminated by raising taxes on 1% of the population. I think several other factors were offered earlier as causal factors in the mess.

    In nutshell, it;s a start but must be followed up with meaningful entitlement reform, and in some cases elimination of programs, coupled with sensible tax structures, etc. No one thing is going to fix this. We've turned government into a monster that is providing way too much... it's unsustainable, as we now see.
     
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