Does BO really have a long association with communism?

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Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."


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A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!
 
He seems more like Mussolini than Lenin. The same kind of divide by zero error ratio of rhetoric to performance. As Jonah Goldberg noted, the same kind of rhetoric and violence too.
 
Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
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A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!

I think him as a hybrid with a Marxist at his core. Mind you that does not mean he wants to set up some totalitarian Version of Marxism/Communism. It means he thinks he is the guy that can get the over all Vision Marx set forth right for a change. So in that sense we almost need a new ism. Obamaism. A Hybrid Mix of Capitalism, Socialism, Marxism, and modern environmental social/communism.

IMO he is making the same mistake as them all. He thinks he is the guy that can make it work with out it becoming a totalitarian Monster. He thinks Wrong.
 
Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
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A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!

You forgot to mention that BO's mother was also an off-the-wall Marxist, with a predilection for men of colour apparently of the Muslim variety. According to BO in his book "Dreams From My Father", his mommy also hated her own race.

But most troubling is his overt comradeship with his Kenyan cousin, the murderous, rapist Communist Raila ODINGA who is known throughout Africa as the "AFRICAN STALIN" and leader of the, at least then, ruling Party of Kenya; "The Orange Democratic Party" which slaughtered ~ 100,000 of the opposition many of whom were women and children.

Obami Salaami visited Raila Odinga shortly before his Presidential campaign and attended Raila Odinga's rallies where Obami was photo-oped arm-in-arm, smiling with the Murderous PSYCHO. And, later, Obami was again photo-oped with Odinga, smiling arm-in-arm in African garb, at an ALL COMMUNIST/Muslim family gathering.

Obami Salaami's Senatorial record is to the left of the icon of Dem Morality, i.e., The Chappaquidick Murderer: Teddy "may he roast in hell" Kennedy.

And yet..... a disturbing number of the naive American Public STILL want to re-elect this semi-exposed MONUMENTAL FRAUD, the stone-cold MARXIST Obami-Salaami.
 
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Raila Odinga not related by blood. Kenya full of Odinga's and also loaded with people claiming to be related to Obama.
 
Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

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A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!

Your attitude toward President Obama fails to take into account two basic principles:

1. There is no such thing as guilt by association. If the President has been friends with socialists/ Marxists, it does not mean that he is a socialist/Marxist. I'm very good friends with many 'free market' dosciples, yet I am not one. The only thing that Obama's friendships indicate is that he is a well educated and open minded person.

2. In the preamble to the Constitution it states 'The General Welfare' as a basic reason for the existance of the Federal government. It seems that anything the Government does for the general welfare is deemed by you wingnuts as 'socialist. In fact the Constitution does neither prohibits socilaism nor does it proscribe capitalism.

Additionally, you fail to differentiate between the various political philosophies. Apparently you roll all ideas that you don't like into one category: Marxist/leninist. There are huge differnces in the various liberal/leftist/socialist/marxist/lenonist/stalinist philosophies.
Some of these are, by any reasonable standard, repugnant (lenonism/maoism & stalinism), but it is extremely doubtful that the President ascribes to these. Liberalism & democratic-socialism are completely different. Mensheviks were enemys of bolsheviks - try reading uup on it on wikipedia.

You seem to be a victim of cold-war brainwashing.
 
Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
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A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!

Your attitude toward President Obama fails to take into account two basic principles:

1. There is no such thing as guilt by association. If the President has been friends with socialists/ Marxists, it does not mean that he is a socialist/Marxist. I'm very good friends with many 'free market' dosciples, yet I am not one. The only thing that Obama's friendships indicate is that he is a well educated and open minded person.

2. In the preamble to the Constitution it states 'The General Welfare' as a basic reason for the existance of the Federal government. It seems that anything the Government does for the general welfare is deemed by you wingnuts as 'socialist. In fact the Constitution does neither prohibits socilaism nor does it proscribe capitalism.

Additionally, you fail to differentiate between the various political philosophies. Apparently you roll all ideas that you don't like into one category: Marxist/leninist. There are huge differnces in the various liberal/leftist/socialist/marxist/lenonist/stalinist philosophies.
Some of these are, by any reasonable standard, repugnant (lenonism/maoism & stalinism), but it is extremely doubtful that the President ascribes to these. Liberalism & democratic-socialism are completely different. Mensheviks were enemys of bolsheviks - try reading uup on it on wikipedia.

You seem to be a victim of cold-war brainwashing.

Can't tell you how often the easily-fooled have jotted down the drivel that you just posted, Richie...

Totally understandable if you are ten years old or younger, or can't read and write, or live under a rock....
but not in an adult with any sense.


I dedicate the following to you, Richie...and when you find the gumption to get a library care, take out the book Kangor wrote:

Dr. Paul Kangor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century” C-Span Lecture

1. A dupe is one who is easily deceived or fooled. As far back as Washington’s Farewell Address, we find the warning against dupes: “Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests."

2. Dupes, in this connection, are folks who have been used by the communists to believe that either the communists are just like them, and therefore deserve their protection, or have been led to believe that the communist party is no more menacing than any other American political party.
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a. The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”

b. Just tell 'em your looking for some hope and change.
 
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The brilliance of the Founding Fathers was that they recognized an unprecedented opportunity, the chance to create a country of individual liberty for the first time in history. Our current admin is fixated on the collective.
 
The brilliance of the Founding Fathers was that they recognized an unprecedented opportunity, the chance to create a country of individual liberty for the first time in history. Our current admin is fixated on the collective.
Socialists are jealous of what we have, that is why they try to tear it down. What PC posted says it all, the liberals and progressives have been manipulated by the commies for years, but they are too stupid to see it.
 
The brilliance of the Founding Fathers was that they recognized an unprecedented opportunity, the chance to create a country of individual liberty for the first time in history. Our current admin is fixated on the collective.

Indeed. They created a nation build on individual liberty*.






* Unless you were black, Native American, or a woman.
 
Wheee...... A regular cluster of delusional fruitcakes here. Pass out the little tinfoil hats.

DumbasRocks........A long list of IRREFUTABLE FACTS which none of you LibTURDS can rebut.......and we are called "delusional fruitcakes" by such as you, you brainless LIEberrhoidal farts.

How the fuck can you live with yourselves being as fucking mentally defective as you are ????
 
It's an "irrefutable fact" in the same sense that since I ate a bell pepper today, that must mean I'm a vegetable.
 
What he has is a long history of Far left ideas, and thinking. Does it fit nicely into Communism or any other ism? No, as I said he is a Hybrid.

However no matter how he tries to repackage the ideas, they are still the same old ideas which have failed and lead to Totalitarianism in the past. Time and time again.
 
Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

edited short per T.O.S.A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!

blah, blah, blah...you wasted probably 30 - 60 minutes of your life tying this retarded tea bagger bullshit.

Yep, Obama is a socialist...the socialist Obama's Dept of Justice has prosecuted exactly ZERO of the Wall Street executives who in 2008 caused the worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression. These executives blew a $12 trillion hole in the stock market through their reckless and illegal gambling in the derivates market, yet the socialist Obama has done everything he can to protect them. Not to mention half of the folks in Obama's Dept of Treasury are former Wall Street executives, such as Treasury Secretary Tim Geitner. Yep, despite ALL of this, Obama is a socialist, you are correct.

A socialist protecting Wall Street fat cats...that's one clever fucking dude!

You idiot tea baggers are just some retarded fucking unsophisticated, uninformed trailer trash lumps of shit who live in a fucking alternate universe. :cuckoo: You fuckholes just believe what you want to believe, any evidence to the contrary of your fucked-up beliefs are simply ignored.
 
It's an "irrefutable fact" in the same sense that since I ate a bell pepper today, that must mean I'm a vegetable.

Idiots like you can define anything the way you want to. You just did that by stating that an "apple" is, in effect, a "chair". One cannot prevent idiots like you from acting like idiots. You are an irrational arsehole. You take REALITY and twist it into a pretzel thinking that you are accomplishing a non-existent goal. You are sick.

An "irrefutable fact" is a TRUTH that cannot be rationally contradicted:
like an "apple" is an "apple", and a "chair" is a "chair".....and that, for example Obami-Salaami called PSYCHO "Goddamn America" Wright (his own words):"pastor, friend, mentor".

Obami Salaami did that. Therefore, it's an IRREFUTABLE FACT.

If Obami Salaami did not do what I stated. Then it would not be an IRREFUTABLE FACT.

Geddit ????? Idiot ?????


Obami Salaami spent TWENTY FUCKING YEARS in the Cathedral of Hate run by this Black Racist Whackjob ..... and ALL the other items mentioned in my post are of the same order: IRREFUTABLE FACTS, you dumb Obamarrhoidal Piece of Shit.

Geddit ???? Idiot ????

Of course, NOT.

YOU, like the other Obamarrhoidal LibTURDS are not only brainwashed political idiots.......you are fucking delusional.
 
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Obama said, in his biography, he gravitated to Marxist professors in college, he had a Marxist preacher best friend for 20 years, said in his auto biography that when he worked on Wall Street he felt as if "he had parachuted behind enemy lines", was more liberal in the Senate the Bernie Sanders( an open socialist) and now, despite 200 years of gov't growth, his deficits will be bigger than all other American presidents combined, and, he also wants perhaps absolute control over health care (already mostly controlled by gov't), banking, and the auto industry.

Through Frank Marshall Davis,( Communist Party number: 47544) Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
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A quick visit to the CPUSA website yields:

"In some ways last night's State of the Union address by President Obama was a virtuoso performance. There were stirring moments, memorable turns of phrase, humor, a defense of activist government, and proposals that will be welcomed, and surely help, millions of people in need." Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling » cpusa


And, if all that is not enough BO wrote a book called " Dreams From my Father". His father was a drunken suicidal Marxist who dreamed to free the world from American imperialism.

And lets not forget that he is openly for single payer socialist health care!!

blah, blah, blah...you wasted probably 30 - 60 minutes of your life tying this retarded tea bagger bullshit.

Yep, Obama is a socialist...the socialist Obama's Dept of Justice has prosecuted exactly ZERO of the Wall Street executives who in 2008 caused the worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression. These executives blew a $12 trillion hole in the stock market through their reckless and illegal gambling in the derivates market, yet the socialist Obama has done everything he can to protect them. Not to mention half of the folks in Obama's Dept of Treasury are former Wall Street executives, such as Treasury Secretary Tim Geitner. Yep, despite ALL of this, Obama is a socialist, you are correct.

A socialist protecting Wall Street fat cats...that's one clever fucking dude!

You idiot tea baggers are just some retarded fucking unsophisticated, uninformed trailer trash lumps of shit who live in a fucking alternate universe. :cuckoo: You fuckholes just believe what you want to believe, any evidence to the contrary of your fucked-up beliefs are simply ignored.

The Ohio Idiot, Won Ton:

The THREE VIDEOS posted regarding the financial ruin of our Country was about the inundation by the Lib Controlled Main Stream Media for years blaming Bush and his representatives plus other Republicans for the debacle when the THREE VIDEOS some 13 or 14 posts ago DEFINITIVELY PROVE WHAT LYING PIECES OF SHIT THE OBAMARRHOIDAL LIEBTURD ARSEHOLES REALLY ARE.

The Fannie & Freddie Financial Debacle that brought down our Financial Meltdown is CONCLUSIVELY documented on the following youtube videos:

Google: "Youtube, Fannie & Freddie Congressional Committee Hearings."

There are 3 or 4 videos in the first rectangle of videos: look at ALL of them.

These videos CONCLUSIVELY show how the blatantly corrupt Dems, Maxine Waters, Clay, etc.....yowl and howl, and insult Bush Adm representatives for predicting a Financial Disaster if necessary regulation wasn't immediately accomplishe ...... with Bwarney Fwank supporting the FLAGRANT LIES of the corrupt Dems. There are also numerous Republican Congressmen, one after another, after another...... insisting on more regulation and being specific as to why these regulations were necessary......only to be ignored and over-ruled by the CORRUPT DEMS.

These exposed lies about Bush and Republican culpability in F&F are trumpeted about by the National Media 24/7 and successfully convinced most of the American Public.......the CORRUPTION and BLATANT DISTORTION and DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH BY THE DEMS in the F&F Debacle is just the tip of the ROTTEN Obamarrhoidal LIEbTURD iceberg.

There are always SOME misquoting of the facts in politics, exaggerations etc.........BUT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE LIES, AND THE CONSISTENCY OF THEM IS TRULY UNBELIEVABLE IN THAT ALL, I repeat ALL, of the Obamarrhoidal Agenda is a LIE: The Health Care claims are a LIE, the Cap &Trade claims are a LIE, The FINANCIAL DEBACLE blaming Bush is a LIE, GUANTANAMO is a LIE.....you Obamarrhoidal LIEbTURD stooges are PATHOLOGICAL LIARS !!!!!

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU FUCKING OBAMARRHOIDAL ARSEHOLES ARE NOT CAPABLE OF TELLING THE TRUTH IF YOUR LIVES DEPENDED ON TELLING THE TRUTH !!!!
 
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The brilliance of the Founding Fathers was that they recognized an unprecedented opportunity, the chance to create a country of individual liberty for the first time in history. Our current admin is fixated on the collective.
Socialists are jealous of what we have, that is why they try to tear it down. What PC posted says it all, the liberals and progressives have been manipulated by the commies for years, but they are too stupid to see it.

Wow, so it's no way having a rational convo with you since this is the foundation of your thoughts. Dems are being manipulated by Moscow, really?
 

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