Does anyone know of any states leaving the union?

[Procrustes Stretched]

If anyone would like to start a movement in a state somewhere or knows of anyone that already exist please list them.

That would mean assuming there is no other recourse possible for the majority to remedy what the traitors did tonight -and that isn't true.

suicide is an option...a viable one.

 

[ihopehefails]

yeah, like when people get sick and they do not have to take the GOP road of bankruptcy, which btw the GOP tried to stop people from being able to do, when people get sick and get the care they need and do not have to die poor and in the golden streets of America?

No one here is obligated to pay for someone else. Its tragic when people lose everything they have in life because of XYZ but are we morally obligated to make up for that?

Kill for profit insurance.

FRONTLINE: sick around the world: five capitalist democracies & how they do it | PBS

Why would anyone work to solve all the medical problems in this world if they are not getting paid? Most doctors like to treat people but won't do it if they are not being paid what they think they are worth. Its the same with insurance companies. They won't work unless they are paid which is why free-enterprise has always been better for increasing wealth and eleviating poverty.

PBS..the new network OBama pays for.

 

[Tom Clancy]

No one here is obligated to pay for someone else. Its tragic when people lose everything they have in life because of XYZ but are we morally obligated to make up for that?

Kill for profit insurance.

FRONTLINE: sick around the world: five capitalist democracies & how they do it | PBS

PBS...government TV

That link is very informative..

I suggest you read it.

And this is coming from a Right Leaning folk.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

No one here is obligated to pay for someone else. Its tragic when people lose everything they have in life because of XYZ but are we morally obligated to make up for that?

Kill for profit insurance.

FRONTLINE: sick around the world: five capitalist democracies & how they do it | PBS

Why would anyone work to solve all the medical problems in this world if they are not getting paid? Most doctors like to treat people but won't do it if they are not being paid what they think they are worth. Its the same with insurance companies. They won't work unless they are paid which is why free-enterprise has always been better for increasing wealth and eleviating poverty.

PBS..the new network OBama pays for.

That link is very informative..

I too suggest you read it.

 

[hjmick]

Does anyone know of any states leaving the union?

I hear Iowa is going to Cancun for Spring break...

 

[KissMy]

Kill for profit insurance.

FRONTLINE: sick around the world: five capitalist democracies & how they do it | PBS

PBS...government TV

That link is very informative..

I suggest you read it.

And this is coming from a Right Leaning folk.

Medicare cost tax payers over $1,000 a month per insured. That is far more than any of those countries in that link & more than our private system. My premium is only $87 & I am self employed 47 years old with a 3 year rate lock. So that will be my premium when I am 50. This beats the shit out of Government care.

 

[Dr Grump]

Why would anyone work to solve all the medical problems in this world if they are not getting paid? Most doctors like to treat people but won't do it if they are not being paid what they think they are worth. Its the same with insurance companies. They won't work unless they are paid which is why free-enterprise has always been better for increasing wealth and eleviating poverty.

A mix of both capitalism and socialism seems to work best. Either of those processes left to their own devices, don't...

 

[Avatar4321]

Umm.. who said i agree or like Rush? So why follow him?

He's an idiot for even saying that.

He didn't say it.

Okay, I heard him (Rush) say it, but it's not true to you?

No. You didn't because he didn't say it.

 

[Avatar4321]

I'm sure he did. When he talks off the top of his head, and says what he means...he usually has to back track.

no big deal. except it's hilarious to see the ditto heads come to his defense

Seems to be a big deal to you. You brought it up after all. As if that was what was important with passing that bill.

Problem is your sources suck because Rush never said he was moving to Costa Rica.

 

[ihopehefails]

Why would anyone work to solve all the medical problems in this world if they are not getting paid? Most doctors like to treat people but won't do it if they are not being paid what they think they are worth. Its the same with insurance companies. They won't work unless they are paid which is why free-enterprise has always been better for increasing wealth and eleviating poverty.

A mix of both capitalism and socialism seems to work best. Either of those processes left to their own devices, don't...

Both of those oppose freedom so I'm going to nix your combo creation.

 

[ihopehefails]

Kill for profit insurance.

FRONTLINE: sick around the world: five capitalist democracies & how they do it | PBS

Why would anyone work to solve all the medical problems in this world if they are not getting paid? Most doctors like to treat people but won't do it if they are not being paid what they think they are worth. Its the same with insurance companies. They won't work unless they are paid which is why free-enterprise has always been better for increasing wealth and eleviating poverty.

PBS..the new network OBama pays for.

That link is very informative..

I too suggest you read it.

I got five paragraphs into it before I realized that it destroys freedom. In this case it is freedom of health care professionals to practice their business as they want. I know this is a very hard to sell concept to some people but a person has the right to do with their life as they want in all aspects of their life. In this case it is how they work but in others it is what they say such as the freedom to speak freely.

The freedom to work enable creativity to solve problems but industry that is regulated is not permitted that freedom to solve those problems. They are directed by the 'system' and must wait for the system to fix itself.

 

[Dr Grump]

Why would anyone work to solve all the medical problems in this world if they are not getting paid? Most doctors like to treat people but won't do it if they are not being paid what they think they are worth. Its the same with insurance companies. They won't work unless they are paid which is why free-enterprise has always been better for increasing wealth and eleviating poverty.

A mix of both capitalism and socialism seems to work best. Either of those processes left to their own devices, don't...

Both of those oppose freedom so I'm going to nix your combo creation.

Anarchy doesn't work either....

 

[Dr Grump]

I got five paragraphs into it before I realized that it destroys freedom. In this case it is freedom of health care professionals to practice their business as they want. I know this is a very hard to sell concept to some people but a person has the right to do with their life as they want in all aspects of their life. In this case it is how they work but in others it is what they say such as the freedom to speak freely.

The freedom to work enable creativity to solve problems but industry that is regulated is not permitted that freedom to solve those problems. They are directed by the 'system' and must wait for the system to fix itself.

You want to live in Utopia? Boy, are you in for a disappointing life....

 

[SpidermanTuba]

If anyone would like to start a movement in a state somewhere or knows of anyone that already exist please list them.

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE A TRAITOR!

 

[Tom Clancy]

Weren't there people who wanted to leave because of Bush and his policies?

But seriously.. nobody is gonna do shit, we've survived far worse.. and when I mean worse, i mean 8 years of false Conservatism, and now we have a Far Left Liberal in Office..

We've survived late 30's and early 40's..

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To anybody who actually wants to leave the union just leave the country and move somewhere else..

Or stop exaggerating and do the Civil thing and Vote. Simple.

 

[Ravi]

If anyone would like to start a movement in a state somewhere or knows of anyone that already exist please list them.

Somalia looks like a good choice for you. Limited government, no social services, no income taxes. Why not give it a try and report back to us on how you do?

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh now this is just moronic..

But consider who you are dealing with

 

[Old Rocks]

I'm sure he did. When he talks off the top of his head, and says what he means...he usually has to back track.

no big deal. except it's hilarious to see the ditto heads come to his defense

Seems to be a big deal to you. You brought it up after all. As if that was what was important with passing that bill.

Problem is your sources suck because Rush never said he was moving to Costa Rica.

Rush Limbaugh moving to Costa Rica? (Poll) - KansasCity.com


Rush: "My guess in even in Canada and even in the UK, doctors have opted out. And once they’ve opted, they can’t see anybody Medicare, Medicaid, or what will become the exchanges. They have to have a clientele of private patients that will pay them a retainer and it’ll be a very small practice. I don’t know if that has been outlawed in the Senate bill. I don’t know.

"I’ll just tell you this, if this passes and it’s five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented — I am leaving the country. I’ll go to Costa Rica."



Read more: Rush Limbaugh moving to Costa Rica? (Poll) - KansasCity.com

 

[Tom Clancy]

Oh now this is just moronic..

But consider who you are dealing with

True.

 

[oreo]

If anyone would like to start a movement in a state somewhere or knows of anyone that already exist please list them.

Texas teapartiers did:

AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall -- one of three tea parties he was attending across the state -- that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry Threatens to Secede from Nation // Current