Does Any of This Matter

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  1. rayboyusmc
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    Has anyone ever changed their mind on politics from what they have read on a message board like this?

    I doubt it. Most changes in an adult's values on come as the result of a significant emotional event S.E.E. (Dr. Morris Massey) such as a death, birth, marriage, divorce etc. When the person is in the loosend stage, they may change depending on what they see, hear, experience etc.

    I believe these boards are a nice way to relieve the powerless feelings many have in todays environment. We really can't change them, so we focus on posting our views and or attacking those who disagree with us.


    I would much rather find out why people who think differently than I do think the way they do. I believe in enough liberal and conservative values that I have a hard time understanding anyone who actually hates the other side and wants them destroyed.

    If either the far right or far left ever ruled completely, this would be hell. The first 6 years of Bush's rule have proven that to me. Fortunately, both sides are dumb enough that when they get power, they fuckitupcompletely unitil the people see this and shift back.

    You may agree with me or not, it doesn't matter. No one in politics has all the right answers. If you think you do, you are living a real delusion.

    Screw it for the rest of this election. I will do my work at work with those who are afraid of Obama, don't know him or have been sucked in by the lies on the blogs about his Muslimness and hate for the white race.

    Have a great life.
     
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    see ya
     
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    I agree. I bolded your comments about not hating the "other" side. I like reading other people's opinions, as long as they state them in a semi-rational manner, without flaming. Most on here are reasonable people, and the rest I just ignore!

    That's great you are going to help with the Obama campaign, me too, here in my little place in America.
     
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    Denny Crane Obama/Biden

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    After reading all the weak arguements on a lot of different forums about why Obama shouldn't be POTUS, I can say that was one of the factors that made me take a better look at the Obama/Biden ticket.
     
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    I don't come here to change anyone's opinion. I come here to share mine, hear others, and discuss the differences.
     
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    I thought Hillary had all the right answers.:D
     
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    I really hate that Hillary is not in this historic election. That's okay, she'll run in 2012.
     
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    I think that boards like this contributed a tiny bit to my way of thinking and led, in a very small degree to changing my views. I used to be an ultra laze fair conservative. I thought that there should be no government safety net. People should be forced to make it on their own. Then I became very socialistic. I thought that the rich became rich by luck and corruption fraud and cruel practices against the gullible "little people". Wealth should be evenly distributed. Finally, after rocking back and forth like a pendulum. I consider myself to be a practical moderate - a little bit extreme on a few key issues - but not an absolutist. After debating conservatives and liberals on boards such as this and getting different perspectives from individuals, I think that my perspective has been changed. Then again, age an experience may explain it all
     
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    It is probably true that few people change their views based on message boards, but I always look to see if anyone can really challenge the basic liberalism that is at the heart of American democracy.

    Obama's candidacy was a nice surprise. He moves politics to another level and at the same time he takes care of those less fortunate, something the so called Christian right has abandoned for single topics and power. But something America has always stood for. Should he lose to the same old ideas and the sheer stupidness of much of Palin's beliefs, America loses.

    I do also think posting can affect others who may not even comment. A URL or the mention of a good book can lead others away from dog eat dog republicanism, back to an America where people cared and corporations cared and news wasn't just spin.

    I am reading this now which is a refreshing look at the principles of liberalism.

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Freedoms-Power-History-Promise-Liberalism/dp/0465081878/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220121023&sr=1-4]Amazon.com: Freedom's Power: The History and Promise of Liberalism: Paul Starr: Books[/ame]
     
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    Caligirl Oh yes it is too!

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    Personally, message boards give me a sense of what everyone else is thinking, which I kind of like, because it helps me feel more in touch with other people's views. It doesn't necessarily ever change anyone's mind, on the other hand message boards are way more meaty than, say, bumper stickers.

    Oh, and about those in absolute power fucking up completely - I have wondered if they become corrupt through power, OR if crooks gravitate towards whichever party is gaining power because that's where a crook would want to be. Are most of the crooked politicians ones that were relatively recently elected to their party while their party was in power? It would be interesting to see.

    Scott MCClellan has convinced me that he really thought the Bush team was going to reform Washington (and did they ever). He (or maybe I am confusing him with one of the federal judges that was doing the circuit) said on one of the chat shows that he had viewed Bush etc as the Jedi's sent to Washington to overcome corruption. Well, that worked out real well.
     
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