Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....

[Oddball]

Yeah its funny how they think the US cant do what other countries do quite well.

what do they do well????????????????

Finally, thanks for admitting you have no idea about anything that is going on anywhere

REad up on how the rest of the civilized world does health care, and how selling insurance for primary care is a crime...

then you need to watch "Sicko"

then you need to talk to people in the health insurance industry who are willing to admit to you what is actually going on

then come back here

Either that or you could STFU and move to Cuba, where they allegedly have the greatest health care in the world....Well, that is except if the Castros need some, then they go elsewhere.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

what do they do well????????????????

Finally, thanks for admitting you have no idea about anything that is going on anywhere

REad up on how the rest of the civilized world does health care, and how selling insurance for primary care is a crime...

then you need to watch "Sicko"

then you need to talk to people in the health insurance industry who are willing to admit to you what is actually going on

then come back here

Either that or you could STFU and move to Cuba, where they allegedly have the greatest health care in the world....Well, that is except if the Castros need some, then they go elsewhere.

the irony is that other countries do get some decent results at half the cost but this is because they are poorer, get subsidized by us and because they have somewhat organized socialist systems while our socialist system is a huge spaghetti mess of conflicting overlapping redundant and competing bureaucracies buried under mountains of regulations.

The assumption has to be that if we moved to a capitalist system our costs would be half or less than Europe's socialist costs.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Jesus, thanks kids, thanks for playing

I have to go see my Rolex dealer, time to spend more of your money

 

[PoliticalChic]

Poor special Ed.


he ran away

Health insurance is a crime everywhere but in America

Astounding how the hard of thinking can be made to believe what is a debilitation is actually a virtue....

Ban individual healthcare insurance if you dictate that every one must lock-step into government healthcare....where bureaucrats decide what is good for you.

Socialist policies favor increased central planning of the economy by politicians and by bureaucrats, instead of allowing entrepreneurs, businesses, and customers to make decisions in a free market.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yeah its funny how they think the US cant do what other countries do quite well.

what do they do well????????????????

Finally, thanks for admitting you have no idea about anything that is going on anywhere

REad up on how the rest of the civilized world does health care, and how selling insurance for primary care is a crime...

then you need to watch "Sicko"

then you need to talk to people in the health insurance industry who are willing to admit to you what is actually going on

then come back here

Sicko????

Now, who are you going to believe if not Michael Moore? Moore states that Cuba has a better healthcare system (they live longer). "All the independent health organizations in the world, and even our own CIA, believes that the Cubans have a pretty good health system. And they do, in fact, live longer than we do," he said.

But when "20/20" contacted the CIA, officials said, "We don't say that Cuba has a pretty good system or that Cubans live longer than Americans."

In fact, the CIA's World Fact Book says Americans live nearly a year longer. Although a U.N. report supports Moore's position, that data comes straight from the Cuban government.
Page 2: Healthy in Cuba, Sick in America? - ABC News

 

[ConzHateUSA]

stop insisting on being stupid, please

stop lying, please

 

[jillian]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

And you think what you post passes for political discussion because???

Seems like another of your baseless rants....

 

[Pho_King]

I stopped after " does a liberal have the iq to understand...". Regardless of the rest of the question, the answer is an obvious and resounding no.

 

[jillian]

I stopped after " does a liberal have the iq to understand...". Regardless of the rest of the question, the answer is an obvious and resounding no.

Only to a blithering idiot like you and the o/p,... You're pretty much fungible.

Google the word. I'll try to stay monosyllabic for you next time.

Oops... Better google that one, too.

 

[PoliticalChic]

stop insisting on being stupid, please

stop lying, please

Were you speaking into a mirror?


Otherwise, your post makes no sense....

 

[Pho_King]

I stopped after " does a liberal have the iq to understand...". Regardless of the rest of the question, the answer is an obvious and resounding no.

Only to a blithering idiot like you and the o/p,... You're pretty much fungible.

Google the word. I'll try to stay monosyllabic for you next time.

Oops... Better google that one, too.

Doesnt an OWS parasite like you have a cop car to shit on, or a business to disrupt?

 

[jillian]

I stopped after " does a liberal have the iq to understand...". Regardless of the rest of the question, the answer is an obvious and resounding no.

Only to a blithering idiot like you and the o/p,... You're pretty much fungible.

Google the word. I'll try to stay monosyllabic for you next time.

Oops... Better google that one, too.

Doesnt an OWS parasite like you have a cop car to shit on, or a business to disrupt?

i'm pretty sure i earn more than you and pay more in taxes. so feel free to kiss my blue state butt... leech.

 

[geauxtohell]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

Is this the Romney Health Care plan?

Go for it!

 

[saveliberty]

Somebody used IQ and liberal in the same sentence.

 

[Truthmatters]

poor special ed fails again

 

[geauxtohell]

poor special ed fails again

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

 

[auditor0007]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

This sounds like a wonderful idea Edward. I would love to see healthcare providers paying us to go see them for all of our medical needs. With costs decreasing by over 1000%, doctors and hospitals would be paying us to go to see them. Wouldn't that just be great? I'm really not sure how it would work though; maybe you can explain it to a simple minded pinhead like me?

too stupid!!! I was speaking figuratively, not literally.

See why we are 1000% sure a liberal will be slow, to put it politely!!

So we'll all pay cash and the price of everything will go down. Interesting; I'd like to see how much cheaper a liver transplant or stem cell transplant would be and who would be able to afford it. Currently a liver transplant runs around $350,000 and a stem cell transplant can run upwards of $750,000. Even if the price was cut in half, only the super wealthy would be able to afford it.

The problem with people like you is you see everything as black and white. You think that your idea is the perfect answer for everything, until you find out it is not. Let me tell you something, if I would have had to pay cash for all my families medical expenses over the years, there is no way i would have been able to pay much of it. Granted, I have benefited greatly from having insurance. It has done what it was supposed to when I needed it.

Here is a semi-list of my families major medical expenses over the years. My wife had kidney stones that put her in the hospital for a week at a cost of around $20,000. This was in the early 90's. Then my first born was born early and had to stay in NICU for two weeks at the cost of around $85,000. Then my second son was born extremely early and only weighed three pounds. He was in NICU for 47 days and the bill topped $300,000. This was also in the 90's. Then my wife was diagnosed with AML (Acute Myloid Leukemia). She went through Chemo, full body radiation and a stem cell transplant, and eventually lost her battle and died. The bill for her ten month battle was over $1.3 million. Last of all, I was diagnosed with Hemochromatosis and have cirrhosis of the liver because of it. The cost for my treatment over the first two years was actually quite cheap as it only cost around $30,000.

Now had the cost been reduced some because everyone was paying for it out of pocket, there is still no way in hell I could have ever paid for it. There is a reason that we have insurance. The only option outside of insurance is a one payer system that is paid for by everyone through taxes. It just amazes me that cons like you believe you are so smart and are incapable of understanding even the simplest of things.

 

[auditor0007]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

This sounds like a wonderful idea Edward. I would love to see healthcare providers paying us to go see them for all of our medical needs. With costs decreasing by over 1000%, doctors and hospitals would be paying us to go to see them. Wouldn't that just be great? I'm really not sure how it would work though; maybe you can explain it to a simple minded pinhead like me?

It's rather simple actually to anyone with even a meager understanding of economics and how a market works. As for the OPs numbers, I don't know where he is getting his $5000 figure from so whether or not that is accurate, who knows. The 1000%, of course, is hyperbole, his point being it would result in a major decrease in costs, but you already knew that.

Here is my problem. There is this idea among many cons that we can just pay cash for our healthcare and costs will come down. While I do agree with this, we are realistically only talking about certain things within healthcare that are not that expensive to begin with. As soon as you get to major health issues, the costs become more than most could ever pay for out of pocket. My family has had medical bills over the years in excess of $1.7 million. My wife had the bulk of that when she was being treated for leukemia. But outside of that issue, both my sons were born premature. One had medical bills of around $85,000 and the other was over $300,000. My wife at kidney stones that required treatment in hospital at a cost of around $20,000. And then there is me who needed treatment over a two year period that cost over $30,000, and I still face an outside possibility of needing a liver transplant at some time down the road, but hopefully not. I"m doing everything I can to keep the one I have even though it is damaged. My point is that any of these things would bankrupt most people if they had to pay out of pocket, and paying out of pocket would not drop the cost that much.

I don't know for certain what the answer is, but this is something to think about. In a normal business market, if a company develops a product or service, the more people buy that product or service, the cheaper it gets to produce and the cost drops. However in healthcare it seems to be the exact opposite, when more people use a service the cost just goes up and up and up. Somewhere something doesn't make sense. A lot of it has to do with there not being any real competition, but again creating a competitive atmosphere in healthcare isn't necessarily in the best interest of patients, because patients have varying needs in varying parts of the country. People in rural areas need healthcare just as much as those living in urban areas, but the numbers aren't there to support many hospitals or doctors in those areas. The whole thing is just so much more complex than saying "well if we do it the Republican way and make everyone pay for it all out of pocket, then it will get a lot cheaper".

 

[there4eyeM]

Is 'capitalist health care' an oxymoron?

Capitalist police enforcement?

Capitalist national defense?

 

[geauxtohell]

If people want their X-Rays read by the lowest bidder, than go for it. Even more ironic is that most of these people are the same people who want massive tort reform.

Hell, I'll read them for you for three fiddy a pop.

The money will roll right in.

Capitalism, baby.