Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

[Political Junky]

Freedom speech and an attempt at freedom of association. The doctor can't refuse care if the patient persists in trying to see him. But his sign encourages such patents to look elsewhere.

It's his right to free speech.

He is a private doctor with a private business and he has the right to accept or refuse any patient he chooses to. He may lose some insurance or medicare money but its still his right to do this.

We dont live in obamacare land yet, the bill isn't implimented or enforced yet.

Actually, the hippocratic oath might conflict with his actions.

 

[WillowTree]

Freedom speech and an attempt at freedom of association. The doctor can't refuse care if the patient persists in trying to see him. But his sign encourages such patents to look elsewhere.

It's his right to free speech.

He is a private doctor with a private business and he has the right to accept or refuse any patient he chooses to. He may lose some insurance or medicare money but its still his right to do this.

We dont live in obamacare land yet, the bill isn't implimented or enforced yet.

Actually, the hippocratic oath might conflict with his actions.

he had his fingers crossed, just like obamie did.

 

[MaggieMae]

Hippocratic Oath - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

Can someone point out to me where in this oath that all doctors take that not treating a certain group of people is applauded?

Oh what the hell, the Hippocratic Oath is just a goddamned piece of paper.

 

[MaggieMae]

The sign in no way contradicts the doctor's oath to provide care.

What the sign does communicate is that Obamacare in fact is setting up obstacles to providing that very care his patients have enjoyed prior...

He's making a political statement. How often do doctor's offices get walk-ins so that potential new patients would even see the sign? Usually first-timers have already set up an appointment. I'm with whoever said he posted that notice just to garner more business from the rick folk who can pay top dollar. If the doctor had been serious, the common sense approach would be to simply say the office is no longer taking new Medicare/Medicaid nor future Obamacare patients. But this guy had to act like a real asshole about it.

 

[MaggieMae]

Yup - the doctor is quickly becoming a hero.

Of course, he must simply be an anti-Obama racist pig though...

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84% of the people answering the poll said "good for him." ya'll keep on believing though that everybody wanted this.. keep on keeping on.

You people have strange precepts for what constitutes a "hero."

 

[ABikerSailor]

Where have I referred to it as the Gadsden flag?

I know it's the Navy Jack. I picked it because I raised my right hand Feb. 1972 at the Naval Reserve Center in Brockton, Ma.


Why do you have such a problem with people doing business with like-minded people?

Because when those people exclude others to the detriment of the ones excluded and they are citizens of the same country?

Well........kinda reminds me of "whites only" stores and diners. You'd like a return to the 1950's I guess?

And.....I'm a vet as well, served active from 1982-2002 in the Navy. I don't like seeing tea baggers use that flag.

I'm not a Tea Party person. I'm an elected Republican Party official.
Although I admire the Tea Party for their efforts their mission doesn't jive with mine.

You're an elected republican official? Nice.......when the fuck is the GOP gonna pull their collective heads outta their asses and get rid of that idiot Steele?

For that matter, why does your partly let Limp Idiot, Palin, and Blech speak for it?

You've got a lotta 'splainin to do Lucy...............

 

[MaggieMae]

Most doctors are in it for the MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEY these days anyway. Gone are the days when their oath and the simple words "First do no harm" actually meant something. They all either aspire to get into the more lucrative specialties, or they are recruited by mega corporations as "consultants."

The so-called bedside manners portrayed on medical dramas like Gray's Anatomy are non-existent in reality. I'm fascinated by those real-life stories on Discovery Health Channel, like Mystery Diagnosis. I'm always mystified by the bungling that goes on, not the "mystery" of the diagnosis. The most recent episode involved a young woman who had huge weeping lesions all over her body and doctor after doctor just scratched their heads, and yet not a single one bothered to order a biopsy. I mean DUH! The regular ER doctors and GPs don't really seem to care that a symptom might NOT be "just the flu." On that program, only when the situation becomes tragically unmanageable and repeated trips to a regular doctor is useless, the patient finds appropriate treatment by doing his/her own research and locating an expert on his own.

 

[MaggieMae]

Republican heroes. Soldiers that won't serve their country and doctors that won't serve the public.

Hear hear. And what about doctor-soldiers? Would this creep bend over a bleeding GI or Marine and ask if he voted for Obama before committing to saving his life?

 

[MaggieMae]

it is to doctors.

No, too much Bureaucracy hampers a doctor's ability to do work.

However, with technology over time and when it comes more inexpensive, it will be easier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/technology/19patient.html



I'm sure you'll hate this though.

The government took a step in that direction last week, announcing a $150 million Medicare project that will offer doctors incentives to move from paper to electronic patient records. The program is intended to help up to 1,200 small practices in 12 cities and states make the conversion.

Individual doctors will be offered up to $58,000 over the five-year span of the project, which is intended to test the impact of incentives on the spread of electronic health records. Further programs across the country are planned

that's another bone of contention in the upcoming court battles,, electronic access of patients records by the government.. good luck with bribing the doctors though.

They already have patient files in an office database, in addition to the paper copies which of course every clerk in the office is privy to, so in effect, your 'privacy' has always been laid bare. Their databases would simply be incorporated into a national database. No more risking a life while waiting for "records" to be copied and delivered to a specialist. No more screwups on conflicting medications. The VA has had such a system in place for 20 years, and I know of no complaints about it.

There's also a bogus claim being sent out virally by the rabid right that anyone can obtain someone else's private medical information via a Freedom of Information Act request. That is pure crap. NO personal information on ANY private citizen has EVER been allowed by that Act.

 

[MaggieMae]

He sounds like a great doctor to go to.

At least you don't have to worry about sitting in a waiting room full of dummies.

I'm actually working on advocating this kind of behavior for all business just in a little different way.

Interviewing owners of businesses, starting with friends and members of "the club" to find out who is with us, then giving them a sign/logo to display.

Members are then encouraged to only patronize businesses with logos whenever possible.

Lists of those that don't merit a logo will be made available.

Good luck with that. My brother-in-law who used to own a car dealership had a big 11 X 14 photograph of George and Laura Bush peering over his desk, always has right-wing talk radio in the background, and he lost a customer because of it. The customer simply said "If you think its appropriate to display political propaganda, then I don't trust you not to have propagandized your sales pitch to me." Who knows how many other customers he lost but didn't have the balls to say why?

 

[MaggieMae]

it means I hear the message the librus are putting out.. don't get excited. we all know the CBC equates opposition to obamalama to racism..

It's your message. But I don't expect you to admit it.

Fact is, this doctor is like the soldier the fuckwit US Army Retired posted about. Neither will do their job because of their feelings toward Obama and his policies.

Republicans are dipshits, crybabies and unethical twits.

Republicans are not the ones who made the sleazy backroom deals now are they? no they are not.

Only because they're the minority. Jeezus, woman, how do you think the Prescription Drug bill got passed? In any event, most of the "deals" were eliminated in the final bill, so you might's well move on to your next Obalamalamamanananana bitch.

 

[MaggieMae]

Where have I referred to it as the Gadsden flag?

I know it's the Navy Jack. I picked it because I raised my right hand Feb. 1972 at the Naval Reserve Center in Brockton, Ma.


Why do you have such a problem with people doing business with like-minded people?

Because when those people exclude others to the detriment of the ones excluded and they are citizens of the same country?

Well........kinda reminds me of "whites only" stores and diners. You'd like a return to the 1950's I guess?

And.....I'm a vet as well, served active from 1982-2002 in the Navy. I don't like seeing tea baggers use that flag.

What's the difference in a whites only diner and a blacks only caucus?

Surely you jest. A congressional caucus is a group of elected officials who pursue one or more specific agendas having to do with similar interests. There are literally hundreds of them, many Republican generated:

Caucuses of the United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do those^ look like diners to you???

 

[WillowTree]

It's your message. But I don't expect you to admit it.

Fact is, this doctor is like the soldier the fuckwit US Army Retired posted about. Neither will do their job because of their feelings toward Obama and his policies.

Republicans are dipshits, crybabies and unethical twits.

Republicans are not the ones who made the sleazy backroom deals now are they? no they are not.

Only because they're the minority. Jeezus, woman, how do you think the Prescription Drug bill got passed? In any event, most of the "deals" were eliminated in the final bill, so you might's well move on to your next Obalamalamamanananana bitch.

yellow rain,, now instead of nebraska getting expempt from medicaid expenses all 57 states will at the expense of the 50% of us who pay taxes. makes no never mind to the parasites does it?

 

[naomibee]

He will NOT lose money and patients.

He is making a point - and a very valid one.

His entire professional way of life is being overtaken by Big Government, and this is some small measure of communicating that to those in his own community.

more states and people like him need to do the same...

 

[boedicca]

yellow rain,, now instead of nebraska getting expempt from medicaid expenses all 57 states will at the expense of the 50% of us who pay taxes. makes no never mind to the parasites does it?

Don't you know? We're going to save 3,000% on our health insurance, so we'll have plenty of money to pay for all the extra Medicaid!

 

[SFC Ollie]

We see a lot of specialists besides our family doctor. Here is how they stand.

Family Doctor: Has quit doing volunteer work at a free clinic, is now refusing any new Medicare/medicaid patients.

Endocrinologist: HE simply shakes his head and looks skyward.

Podiatrist: She actually used the words; "Stupid fuckers"

Dentist: "I'm trying to ignore Washington"

Hematologist: "I hope it's a joke"

Cardiologist: "They'll be after you next."

Not one who cares for this legislation. And the good Doctor is within his rights to turn down new patients. After all he's a busy man.

 

[WillowTree]

He sounds like a great doctor to go to.

At least you don't have to worry about sitting in a waiting room full of dummies.

I'm actually working on advocating this kind of behavior for all business just in a little different way.

Interviewing owners of businesses, starting with friends and members of "the club" to find out who is with us, then giving them a sign/logo to display.

Members are then encouraged to only patronize businesses with logos whenever possible.

Lists of those that don't merit a logo will be made available.

Good luck with that. My brother-in-law who used to own a car dealership had a big 11 X 14 photograph of George and Laura Bush peering over his desk, always has right-wing talk radio in the background, and he lost a customer because of it. The customer simply said "If you think its appropriate to display political propaganda, then I don't trust you not to have propagandized your sales pitch to me." Who knows how many other customers he lost but didn't have the balls to say why?

yep! obama showed those uppity Reppublican car dealership owners who was bozz didn't he?

 

[Ravi]

Republican heroes. Soldiers that won't serve their country and doctors that won't serve the public.

Hear hear. And what about doctor-soldiers? Would this creep bend over a bleeding GI or Marine and ask if he voted for Obama before committing to saving his life?

I believe so. Honestly, I've had a family member disown my husband because he voted for Obama...and some how that makes him responsible for the world turning communist.

Such hysteria.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Republican heroes. Soldiers that won't serve their country and doctors that won't serve the public.

Hear hear. And what about doctor-soldiers? Would this creep bend over a bleeding GI or Marine and ask if he voted for Obama before committing to saving his life?

Honestly, in 22 years I don't remember having actual Political discussions while on active duty. Closest thing we got to that was having a Voting Assistance Officer. And he/she only assited you in getting an absentee ballot.

 

[saveliberty]

The doctor in this article at least states his issue. Others will be less obvious. Cleaning out old records of those who haven't been in for awhile that happen to be on Medicare. Move their office away from the public transit routes, switch to later day appointment schedules, repeatedly reschedule appointments and many other effective methods.