Doctor Ebola Arrives in the US

[Silhouette]

Sil doesn't know that we bring bad bugs home, to study them, all the time, and used to do so just to see how good a weapon they might be, which we are no longer supposed to do but we are probably still hard at work doing. That's life on this rock.

That's odd because I used to work for vaccine-serum laboratory.

It's one thing to have things sealed up with bleach washes and gown destruction after every handling. Quite another to have an infected health worker go to a local pub that night to share drinks with all the knuckleheads...

Believe me. This thing could get out of control very quickly.

Ignorance is bliss or very scarey I suppose.

This man is not GOING TO BE AT A LOCAL PUB DRINKING, and the doctors taking care of him will NEVER come in contact with his breath or any bodily fluids....for goodness sakes.

READ UP on what they have done to contain this Doctor, completely from any other human contact.... only 3 hospitals in the US have this capability, and he is in 1 of them.

Curing him and figuring out how to save his life, is the first step in SAVING all of our lives from Ebola. It's imminent...only a matter of time before it reaches us here in the USA with our open borders and easy plane travel...we live in a global world of free passage, not an isolated one.

My prayers go out to this Doctor and the other woman care taker...may God guide the doctors and scientists working to save him and millions of others in the future! AMEN!

Then we will call him "the doctor in the plastic bubble" because if he survives, how long will he be a carrier? Do we know if people are carriers? How much information do you have on that?

My understanding is that our understanding of ebola is significantly lacking. And until such time as we understand its etiology like our own dicks, we ought not to be letting it onto our shores.

What does Canada think of this? Mexico? South America? Once again the US behaves unilaterally and arrogantly without one care of what its neighbors are thinking..

 

[Care4all]

Oh yeah? Make a joke of it will you?

I wonder what the mortality rate will be for HIV/AIDS patients? Probably hovering right around 100%.

Yeah, they now die of old age, which is also 100% fatal...

Is old age fatal at 13? 23? 33?

Who do you suppose will be left to handle infrastructure if a disease like ebola spreads quickly with a 60-90% fatality rate?

The ebola epidemic will be the tip of the iceberg on "how humanity destroyed the earth".

The very first thing I think of when I think "90% fatality rate" and "spreads rapidly" + stupid masses is who will be left to tend the crippled nuclear plants?

Magic Johnson, 24 years now with AIDS and going strong....great strides have been made with a cocktail of medicines....

 

[Peach]

Yeah, they now die of old age, which is also 100% fatal...

Is old age fatal at 13? 23? 33?

Who do you suppose will be left to handle infrastructure if a disease like ebola spreads quickly with a 60-90% fatality rate?

The ebola epidemic will be the tip of the iceberg on "how humanity destroyed the earth".

The very first thing I think of when I think "90% fatality rate" and "spreads rapidly" + stupid masses is who will be left to tend the crippled nuclear plants?

Old age is old age, and in the west people with AIDS live essentially normal lives now. As for the plants, don't worry, they will shut down automatically if necessary.

You worry about the vast majority of humanity being wiped out? Stop worrying because it's not if, but when...

Accept reality, it is in the US, not yet discovered, thus the US needs to be at the top of research.

 

[B. Kidd]

Geez, I wonder how healthcare providers contract ebola? Afterall, they use all the safeguards they can to keep from getting it. If safeguards were 100% foolproof, common sense tells you that healthcare providers, whom wrote the book on treating ebola, should not be contracting it!

We know how to keep planes from crashing, but they still crash. That's life on this rock where mishaps happen.

Comparing preventing plane crashes to ebola containment......... Are you the founder of, or just a charter member of 'The Stupid Cocksucker Club'?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Geez, I wonder how healthcare providers contract ebola? Afterall, they use all the safeguards they can to keep from getting it. If safeguards were 100% foolproof, common sense tells you that healthcare providers, whom wrote the book on treating ebola, should not be contracting it!

We know how to keep planes from crashing, but they still crash. That's life on this rock where mishaps happen.

Comparing preventing plane crashes to ebola containment......... Are you the founder of, or just a charter member of 'The Stupid Cocksucker Club'?

Actually I a member of humans make mistakes, and life goes on, until it doesn't...

 

[Care4all]

That's odd because I used to work for vaccine-serum laboratory.

It's one thing to have things sealed up with bleach washes and gown destruction after every handling. Quite another to have an infected health worker go to a local pub that night to share drinks with all the knuckleheads...

Believe me. This thing could get out of control very quickly.

Ignorance is bliss or very scarey I suppose.

This man is not GOING TO BE AT A LOCAL PUB DRINKING, and the doctors taking care of him will NEVER come in contact with his breath or any bodily fluids....for goodness sakes.

READ UP on what they have done to contain this Doctor, completely from any other human contact.... only 3 hospitals in the US have this capability, and he is in 1 of them.

Curing him and figuring out how to save his life, is the first step in SAVING all of our lives from Ebola. It's imminent...only a matter of time before it reaches us here in the USA with our open borders and easy plane travel...we live in a global world of free passage, not an isolated one.

My prayers go out to this Doctor and the other woman care taker...may God guide the doctors and scientists working to save him and millions of others in the future! AMEN!

Then we will call him "the doctor in the plastic bubble" because if he survives, how long will he be a carrier? Do we know if people are carriers? How much information do you have on that?

My understanding is that our understanding of ebola is significantly lacking. And until such time as we understand its etiology like our own dicks, we ought not to be letting it onto our shores.

What does Canada think of this? Mexico? South America? Once again the US behaves unilaterally and arrogantly without one care of what its neighbors are thinking..

How are you going to STOP IT from getting here with free travel world wide?

This completely contained man and women, ARE NOT the problem dear...and quite ignorant of you to think otherwise.

Caring for these 2 people in a completely contained bubble, is going to HELP US PREPARE for when the virus hits the common public which is imminent....on the doorstep and NOT from these 2 people.

Who better than the USA, with the best Medical schools and research and development scientists in the WORLD to be working on studying and curing this horrible Ebola virus before it hits the common public in the USA?

I'd be counting my blessing that these 2 contained people ARE being sent here....if I were you...not thinking it is some sort of curse.

We do not live in a bubble like these 2 will be kept....they are not the PROBLEM, they are a part and the beginnings of the solution to the problem....

 

[Silhouette]

A prominent doctor who was a leading adviser during the SARS crisis in 2003 is urging hospitals to prepare for the remote chance of Ebola coming to Canada.

“Sitting here in southern Ontario, I could be complacent and say, ‘well, it’s never going to happen here, why would I worry?’ In fact, we are prepared,” said Queen’s University infectious-disease specialist Dr. Dick Zoutman, chief of staff at Quinte Health Care in Belleville, Ont., which operates four hospitals. “We have a protocol. We have updated all of the contacts in the province we would call if a patient gives us a history of having been in western Africa and has what could be interpreted as early signs, or later signs, of a hemorrhagic fever like Ebola.”

Zoutman chaired the SARS scientific advisory committee for Ontario and spent time in Kosovo after the 1998-99 war working with local doctors treating patients with a different kind of hemorrhagic fever, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever.

“I think every hospital, I hope, is doing the same, and needs to be doing the same,” he said. Hospitals urged to prepare despite low risk of Ebola virus coming to Canada

Well our Canadian friends, rest easy. After your scare turning out negative, you'll be happy to know your southern neighbors just allowed in two confirmed ebola patients. Just one more reason to love the USA.

Una voluntaria de Estados Unidos dio positivo a una prueba para detectar el virus de ébola en el mismo hospital en Liberia donde un médico estadounidense resultó infectado mientras ayudaba a combatir el brote de la letal enfermedad, indicó el domingo un funcionario de un grupo de ayuda...

..."Nos ha conmocionado a todos en nuestro equipo que dos de nuestros integrantes hayan contraído la enfermedad", declaró Isaacs, quien añadió que los ministerios de salud en esos países pobres enfrentan el desafío de reaccionar frente al mal. "Nuestro equipo, francamente, se está cansando". El virus es altamente contagioso y es una de las enfermedades más letales en el mundo....

...No hay cura conocida para el ébola, que comienza con síntomas como fiebre y ardor de garganta y aumentan a vómito, diarrea y hemorragias internas y externas. La OMS dijo que la enfermedad sólo es contagiosa hasta que una persona comienza a mostrar los síntomas.

La esposa e hijos de Brantly vivían con él en Liberia pero regresaron hace una semana a Estados Unidos, antes de que el médico comenzara a presentar algunas señales de la enfermedad, dijo Melissa Strickland, una portavoz de Samaritan's Purse. "(La esposa e hijos) no han mostrado síntomas en lo absoluto", recalcó.

...Brantly culminó sus estudios de la Facultad de Medicina de la Universidad de Indiana y viajó a Liberia como parte de una beca de investigación de dos años con Samaritan's Purse, poco después de que completara su residencia como médico familiar en el hospital John Peter Smith en Fort Worth, Texas... Reportan dos casos de ébola en Estados Unidos | starMedia

Oh goody. The wife and kids of Dr. Ebola are going to be quarantined and brought back. Sounds like friends at the University of Indiana pulled some strings for the good doctor's return to the States.

The article goes into assuring people how the hospital he's at is one of the best in the world. OK, latin America, rest easy!

 

[Silhouette]

Yeah, they now die of old age, which is also 100% fatal...

Is old age fatal at 13? 23? 33?

Who do you suppose will be left to handle infrastructure if a disease like ebola spreads quickly with a 60-90% fatality rate?

The ebola epidemic will be the tip of the iceberg on "how humanity destroyed the earth".

The very first thing I think of when I think "90% fatality rate" and "spreads rapidly" + stupid masses is who will be left to tend the crippled nuclear plants?

Magic Johnson, 24 years now with AIDS and going strong....great strides have been made with a cocktail of medicines....

Yes, and Magic Johnson can afford all those medicines and procedures because he's a rich sports star.

As more and more poor join the ranks of HIV/AIDS with its average of $500,000 in medical & drug costs per patient before untimely death, and as they forget to take their regular medicines as poor and struggling people often do, the HIV virus will continue to mutate and form new strains that may or may not be as easy to contain.

Usually within a year or two of being diagnosed with HIV, HIV/AIDS patients become indigent. So taxpayers ultimately pay the $500,000 for each new patient.

Good for Magic Johnson. Now what about the millions of others who aren't as fortunate?

 

[JimH52]

The Atlanta hospital is better prepared than any other in the world to handle Ebola. They will contain the disease, and fortunately, not that the disease has received so much press, money will begin flowing into research for a cure. Estimates that I have heard say in five years, with more aggressive research, there should be a cure.

I would wager that the haters that want to turn away all the kids at the border, regardless of status, are the same ones that don't want the Good Doctor to come to Atlanta. Most should be home from Church by now....

 

[Unkotare]

This isn't a Hollywood script. This is a real life, actual, no-nonsense scenario of what will happen if Ebola spreads.

And look what we just did. As idiot Americans we just knowingly allowed an infected doctor into US territory. And the people attending him? We don't even know how the disease spreads. "Bodily fluids" is what I hear. Well that's in a person's exhaled moisture & breath as well as other sources.

As a livestock manager, I am S-T-U-N-N-E-D at the sheer recklessness. How did the CDC allow this???? I can only hope that when ebola breaks out in a town in the US from one of these attendants of this infected doctor, we have the balls to drop everyone in that town and not look back. Then burn all the buildings to the ground.

What a selfish prick that doctor is. Unbelievable.

Considering that this panic thread is coming to you from the same genius who was SURE that the city of Tokyo was in the process of being evacuated entirely, I think we can all rest easy.

 

[Unkotare]

We don't even know how the disease spreads.

Yes we do, Bruce. You haven't been taking the pills the nice doctor gave you, have you Bruce?

 

[Silhouette]

We don't even know how the disease spreads.

Yes we do, Bruce. You haven't been taking the pills the nice doctor gave you, have you Bruce?

OK, I volunteer Unkotare to be the personal attendant to Dr. Ebola during his stay at the hostpital stateside. Then we will quarantine you Unkotare to see what happens.. ie: put your money where your mouth is. I hope rats or mice don't spread it. They're not sure about the zoonotic potentials. Imagine if it did spread to our very close cousin the rat? Get a few of those chewing on blood-soaked bandages some hospital lacky forgot to incinerate and whoo boy.

Rats reproduce like mayflies. I think I'll get another cat or 10. Wait, do cats get it too? Oh, that's right. We don't know that yet....

 

[PoliticalTorch]

..But once the Ebola disease reaches more-modern cities, with mass transit, a catastrophic pandemic could spread quickly around the world. THIS COULD BE A NEAR EXTINCTION EVENT.

Never before in human history during a serious epidemic have humans had the capacity — available to a large proportion of all humans — to travel significantly more rapidly than the development of deadly disease. Never before has a serious epidemic broken out when humans can move around the planet faster than the symptoms of disease can be noticed. And our modern mode of travel — unlike ships or trains or covered wagons — heavily concentrate infected people for hours at a time with other humans traveling from widely diverse points of origin to widely diverse destinations. Thus, modern travel creates a mixing bowl capable of spinning disease around the globe at an astonishing potential rate... Ebola Already in the USA, Across Mexican Border, Doctor Alleges | AUN-TV

The incubation rate from exposure to illness with ebola is between 2-21 days. Isolated villiages in Africa and the quick onset have been the saving grace thusfar. If this illness reaches cities...well....we're done.

We have a nuclear power plant and waste situation to monitor. With a 60-90% fatality rate, who will be left to babysit them?

We could recover as a society but can anyone who survives in a semi-neolithic existence monitor and keep radiation from killing anyone who was left as core after core melts down from lack of maintenance?

This isn't a Hollywood script. This is a real life, actual, no-nonsense scenario of what will happen if Ebola spreads.

And look what we just did. As idiot Americans we just knowingly allowed an infected doctor into US territory. And the people attending him? We don't even know how the disease spreads. "Bodily fluids" is what I hear. Well that's in a person's exhaled moisture & breath as well as other sources.

As a livestock manager, I am S-T-U-N-N-E-D at the sheer recklessness. How did the CDC allow this???? I can only hope that when ebola breaks out in a town in the US from one of these attendants of this infected doctor, we have the balls to drop everyone in that town and not look back. Then burn all the buildings to the ground.

What a selfish prick that doctor is. Unbelievable.

Yes, it is unbelievable that they were brought back here yet I don't blame the doctor who is so ill and who even went so far as to offer the only current treatment available, to try to counteract Ebola, to the lady who also became exposed to it out of the kindness of his heart when it was originally meant for him. I believe they both might have been Forced to come back here without a choice, however. And that is also being discussed in another thread "'Ebola Doctor' in US hospital now". Though there are a few who still believe there is no real threat or danger that the Ebola virus will mutate despite the fact that medical professionals have ruled otherwise of that possibility.

What I feel should have happened is that the moment the U.S. learned that the doctor and the other lady had become exposed to the disease they should have immediately sent their CDC experts Where They Were and offered the dosage that they had available to try to treat it On The Spot. Instead of transporting them back here where we are relatively free of Ebola. But that didn't happen. What ever they could have done here they could also do there by transporting equipment, personnel, etc. and start treatments right away without risk to Americans and also incorporate the help of other countries in that effort. After all, where there's a will there's a way. But imho to transport them, sick as they are, and then lock them up in those enclosed see-through cages with the strong possibility that a crack or tear could happen (remember Murphy's Law) was just not thinking this thing out correctly. And the CDC has had other mishaps happen before where the extremely dangerous Anthrax bacteria and other viruses have not been contained properly that could have harmed many innocent bystanders. There is a link to that story in the other aforementioned thread. Why don't they learn from that already and try to keep such Dangerous, Deadly Diseases out of America?

 

[Unkotare]

I'm voting for the Ebola virus.

You just like voting for organisms more advanced than yourself.

 

[jknowgood]

The Powers That Be are aware Chicken Little, so relax. Just because we brought a man in with Ebola doesn't mean we have never brought Ebola here. You will all be fine, unfortunately...

We know, that doctor could look like Obama's uncle. You know the sober one, with money.

 

[Unkotare]

We don't even know how the disease spreads.

Yes we do, Bruce. You haven't been taking the pills the nice doctor gave you, have you Bruce?

OK, I volunteer Unkotare to be the personal attendant to Dr. Ebola during his stay at the hostpital [sic] stateside. ....

I think they might want an actual physician for that, genius. However, if I were a doctor working in the area I sure as hell wouldn't be a loony little pussy about it like you.


How's that evacuation of Tokyo coming along, genius?

 

[Silhouette]

Yes, it is unbelievable that they were brought back here yet I don't blame the doctor who is so ill and who even went so far as to offer the only current treatment available, to try to counteract Ebola, to the lady who also became exposed to it out of the kindness of his heart when it was originally meant for him. I believe they both might have been Forced to come back here without a choice, however. And that is also being discussed in another thread "'Ebola Doctor' in US hospital now". Though there are a few who still believe there is no real threat or danger that the Ebola virus will mutate despite the fact that medical professionals have ruled otherwise of that possibility.

What I feel should have happened is that the moment the U.S. learned that the doctor and the other lady had become exposed to the disease they should have immediately sent their CDC experts Where They Were and offered the dosage that they had available to try to treat it On The Spot. Instead of transporting them back here where we are relatively free of Ebola. But that didn't happen. What ever they could have done here they could also do there by transporting equipment, personnel, etc. and start treatments right away without risk to Americans and also incorporate the help of other countries in that effort. After all, where there's a will there's a way. But imho to transport them, sick as they are, and then lock them up in those enclosed see-through cages with the strong possibility that a crack or tear could happen (remember Murphy's Law) was just not thinking this thing out correctly. And the CDC has had other mishaps happen before where the extremely dangerous Anthrax bacteria and other viruses have not been contained properly that could have harmed many innocent bystanders. There is a link to that story in the other aforementioned thread. Why don't they learn from that already and try to keep such Dangerous, Deadly Diseases out of America?

Wow you are a bleeding heart who is willing to die and commit hundreds of millions of your countrymen, women and children to die in your PC-blindness.

That doctor KNEW the risk he was taking and should assume all responsibility for that risk. He most certainly should have been left offshore to take his chances with what help was availible to him.

We should not be sending anyone to get in the trenches with the ebola virus. It is unfortunate for Africa. But the rest of the world doesn't have to take that bullet just because of Africa's misfortune.

Relatively ebola free? Really? These are the first two documented cases of ebola I know of that have made it to the New World. Is it in South America? Central America? I know they had a scare in Canada but that turned out to be negative.

 

[Silhouette]

Yes we do, Bruce. You haven't been taking the pills the nice doctor gave you, have you Bruce?

OK, I volunteer Unkotare to be the personal attendant to Dr. Ebola during his stay at the hostpital [sic] stateside. ....

I think they might want an actual physician for that, genius. However, if I were a doctor working in the area I sure as hell wouldn't be a loony little pussy about it like you.

No, you could empty his bedpan, shuttle away his blood-soaked bandages. Strip and clean his linens and gowns every day. You're qualified for that type of work.

 

[Darp]

..But once the Ebola disease reaches more-modern cities, with mass transit, a catastrophic pandemic could spread quickly around the world. THIS COULD BE A NEAR EXTINCTION EVENT.

Never before in human history during a serious epidemic have humans had the capacity — available to a large proportion of all humans — to travel significantly more rapidly than the development of deadly disease. Never before has a serious epidemic broken out when humans can move around the planet faster than the symptoms of disease can be noticed. And our modern mode of travel — unlike ships or trains or covered wagons — heavily concentrate infected people for hours at a time with other humans traveling from widely diverse points of origin to widely diverse destinations. Thus, modern travel creates a mixing bowl capable of spinning disease around the globe at an astonishing potential rate... Ebola Already in the USA, Across Mexican Border, Doctor Alleges | AUN-TV

The incubation rate from exposure to illness with ebola is between 2-21 days. Isolated villiages in Africa and the quick onset have been the saving grace thusfar. If this illness reaches cities...well....we're done.

We have a nuclear power plant and waste situation to monitor. With a 60-90% fatality rate, who will be left to babysit them?

We could recover as a society but can anyone who survives in a semi-neolithic existence monitor and keep radiation from killing anyone who was left as core after core melts down from lack of maintenance?

This isn't a Hollywood script. This is a real life, actual, no-nonsense scenario of what will happen if Ebola spreads.

And look what we just did. As idiot Americans we just knowingly allowed an infected doctor into US territory. And the people attending him? We don't even know how the disease spreads. "Bodily fluids" is what I hear. Well that's in a person's exhaled moisture & breath as well as other sources.

As a livestock manager, I am S-T-U-N-N-E-D at the sheer recklessness. How did the CDC allow this???? I can only hope that when ebola breaks out in a town in the US from one of these attendants of this infected doctor, we have the balls to drop everyone in that town and not look back. Then burn all the buildings to the ground.

What a selfish prick that doctor is. Unbelievable.

The article you put the link up for, has a vidoe interview with Dr Bob Arnot, now, was not there last night. He says teh doc should not have been brought here and that he saw two African docs die in 5 days from minor contact with patients Ebola Already in the USA, Across Mexican Border, Doctor Alleges | AUN-TV

 

[Unkotare]

We should not be sending anyone to get in the trenches with the ebola virus.

Wow, you really are a pussy, Bruce. Thank goodness there are so many who are so much better than you in every way. Many doctors travel all over the world, to some of the poorest - and often most dangerous - places on the planet to live up to their oath as physicians. We should admire these men and women. Craven cowardly idiots like Bruce deserve nothing but derision at best.


You never told us how that evacuation was going, Bruce.