CDZ Doctor assisted suicide. Morally wrong?

[ThatDude30]

The sound of doctors speeding up the death process does sound pretty bad. Unless you are the one suffering and feeling the mental and physical pain of someone that is in this position, you really cant say that it is wrong and doctors shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Doctor assisted suicide is legal in 5 US states. Individuals who are suffering from a terminal illness and has a prognosis of 6 months or less to live, are given the option of doctor assisted suicide via court decision.
"The Humane and Dignified Death Act" is an act that would allow a physician to end the life of a terminally ill patient upon the request of the patient, pursuant to properly executed documents. Under present law, suicide is not a crime, but assisting in suicide is.
I believe we all have the moral right to choose freely what we do with our own lives as long as we do not inflict any harm to others. We have the right of "Free choice" and that includes the right to ends one life when we choose.
We ourselves, I believe have an obligation to relieve the suffering or our fellow human beings and to respect their dignity. There are people lying in hospital today, afflicted with excruciating painful and terminal diseases that have left them permanently incapable of functioning in any dignified human fashion. All they have to look forward to is their lives filled with yet more suffering, degradation, and deterioration. Begging for a merciful end to their pain and dignity, I believe it is cruel and inhumane to refuse their pleas. It is not right to just stand their while someone is in agonizing and unbearable pain, knowing that they are dying and cant take the mental and physical pain anyone, and deny them their request to end their suffering. Compassion demands that we comply and cooperate.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It is strictly a matter between the patient and the doctor. Whether it is moral or not is also strictly a matter for the patient and the doctor, subjectively.

 

[ThatDude30]

It is strictly a matter between the patient and the doctor. Whether it is moral or not is also strictly a matter for the patient and the doctor, subjectively.

If you were a doctor would you assist? I would. I think it is morally wrong not to help someone who is suffering

 

[playtime]

we treat dying animals in pain with more compassion.

 

[MarathonMike]

I've posted on this subject before. I agree that doctors should assist a terminally ill patient to end his/her life if that is their wish.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

we treat dying animals in pain with more compassion.

We own them. We pay their medical bills. And, we don't ask their opinion.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The problem with assisted suicide is that it turns into rationed care. Then it turns into just killing, in the patient's best interests of course. Whether they want it or not.

 

[xotoxi]

we treat dying animals in pain with more compassion.

We own them. We pay their medical bills. And, we don't ask their opinion.

With a good chunk of terminally ill patients, we also pay their medical bills (as they are on Medicare or Medicaid)

 

[2aguy]

The sound of doctors speeding up the death process does sound pretty bad. Unless you are the one suffering and feeling the mental and physical pain of someone that is in this position, you really cant say that it is wrong and doctors shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Doctor assisted suicide is legal in 5 US states. Individuals who are suffering from a terminal illness and has a prognosis of 6 months or less to live, are given the option of doctor assisted suicide via court decision.
"The Humane and Dignified Death Act" is an act that would allow a physician to end the life of a terminally ill patient upon the request of the patient, pursuant to properly executed documents. Under present law, suicide is not a crime, but assisting in suicide is.
I believe we all have the moral right to choose freely what we do with our own lives as long as we do not inflict any harm to others. We have the right of "Free choice" and that includes the right to ends one life when we choose.
We ourselves, I believe have an obligation to relieve the suffering or our fellow human beings and to respect their dignity. There are people lying in hospital today, afflicted with excruciating painful and terminal diseases that have left them permanently incapable of functioning in any dignified human fashion. All they have to look forward to is their lives filled with yet more suffering, degradation, and deterioration. Begging for a merciful end to their pain and dignity, I believe it is cruel and inhumane to refuse their pleas. It is not right to just stand their while someone is in agonizing and unbearable pain, knowing that they are dying and cant take the mental and physical pain anyone, and deny them their request to end their suffering. Compassion demands that we comply and cooperate.

Yeah......then they should stop taking the oath to do no harm.......and if you look at the countries where this is allowed.....they don't just help...they are promoting it.......they have single payer healthcare and they have to keep the bills down somehow...

 

[ThatDude30]

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The problem with assisted suicide is that it turns into rationed care. Then it turns into just killing, in the patient's best interests of course. Whether they want it or not.

The patient actually kills themselves. Doctor assisted suicide is where the doctor prescribes the patient a drug and its up to the patient to take it on their own free will.

 

[2aguy]

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The problem with assisted suicide is that it turns into rationed care. Then it turns into just killing, in the patient's best interests of course. Whether they want it or not.

The patient actually kills themselves. Doctor assisted suicide is where the doctor prescribes the patient a drug and its up to the patient to take it on their own free will.

Yeah...not everywhere.....

 

[ScienceRocks]

No,....

When you're suffering it is morally wrong to let it continue.

 

[HenryBHough]

No more morally wrong than baby-killing ("abortion" to you liberals).

Still, hard to find fault when the victims are Democrats. It's just when normal people die that there need be any concern.

 

[Toronado3800]

The sound of doctors speeding up the death process does sound pretty bad. Unless you are the one suffering and feeling the mental and physical pain of someone that is in this position, you really cant say that it is wrong and doctors shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Doctor assisted suicide is legal in 5 US states. Individuals who are suffering from a terminal illness and has a prognosis of 6 months or less to live, are given the option of doctor assisted suicide via court decision.
"The Humane and Dignified Death Act" is an act that would allow a physician to end the life of a terminally ill patient upon the request of the patient, pursuant to properly executed documents. Under present law, suicide is not a crime, but assisting in suicide is.
I believe we all have the moral right to choose freely what we do with our own lives as long as we do not inflict any harm to others. We have the right of "Free choice" and that includes the right to ends one life when we choose.
We ourselves, I believe have an obligation to relieve the suffering or our fellow human beings and to respect their dignity. There are people lying in hospital today, afflicted with excruciating painful and terminal diseases that have left them permanently incapable of functioning in any dignified human fashion. All they have to look forward to is their lives filled with yet more suffering, degradation, and deterioration. Begging for a merciful end to their pain and dignity, I believe it is cruel and inhumane to refuse their pleas. It is not right to just stand their while someone is in agonizing and unbearable pain, knowing that they are dying and cant take the mental and physical pain anyone, and deny them their request to end their suffering. Compassion demands that we comply and cooperate.

Yeah......then they should stop taking the oath to do no harm.......and if you look at the countries where this is allowed.....they don't just help...they are promoting it.......they have single payer healthcare and they have to keep the bills down somehow...

I dunno. From the patient's point of view maybe keeping them alive is doing the harm. When my pops was dying he was very afraid of being kept alive on machines and all.

The thin line between not giving a feeding tube and starving someone to death and just ending the suffering is not very clear. If it ever comes to it and some big government / non separation of church and state religious regulation keeps me from paying a competent doctor from ending my suffering with minimal pain it will be comical.

Imagine the wives forced to watched their husbands wither in agony or take matters into their own hands with hospice workers. Cruel and unusual punishment IMO that is.

 

[waltky]

An idea who's time has come...

Australian State Lawmakers to Vote on Assisted Dying
October 28, 2017 - Australian lawmakers in the state of Victoria will debate a bill to allow medically assisted dying, a highly controversial issue fraught with arguments over who, if anyone, should be able to decide the timing of his or her own death.

Victoria's lower house of parliament passed legislation October 20 that would allow what the bill calls "voluntary assisted dying." The 47-37 vote came after contentious debate that lasted more than 24 hours. Once the bill was passed, Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews told reporters he was "very proud" of the vote. "We have taken a very big step towards giving many, many Victorians the dignity and compassion they have been denied for far too long," Andrews said.

Members of parliament from the Australian state of Victoria participate in a marathon sitting to discuss a euthanasia bill in Melbourne, Australia​

The vote in the upper house, the 40-member Legislative Council, is also expected to be close. Australian reports said 19 members of the upper house supported the bill, 11 were thought to oppose it, and the votes of the remaining 10 were uncertain. Those who oppose assisted dying — including the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the Melbourne Anglican Diocese, in the area affected by next week's vote — urge the medical community to concentrate on developing better palliative care. The term means making a patient as comfortable as possible when an illness cannot be cured.

Setting boundaries

Five nations have legalized assisted dying: Belgium, Canada, Columbia, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. Assisted death usually involves issuance of prescription for drugs that will end life at the time and place of the patient's choosing. Most patients eligible for it are terminally ill and near death. But patients in other circumstances have argued that they, too, should be able to choose assisted dying, including psychiatric patients and elderly people in good health who feel that they have completed their lives and are ready to go.

Campaigners in support of assisted dying protest outside the Houses of Parliament in central London, Sept. 11, 2015. The House of Commons rejected an assisted-dying bill that year, and the practice remains illegal today in Britain.​

In 2014, Belgium became the first nation to expand access to assisted dying to include terminally ill children, although not those with psychiatric disorders. It does allow mentally ill adults access to that option, although not all doctors are keen on granting it. The Associated Press reported that, in Belgium, the mental illnesses most common among people who request euthanasia are depression, personality disorder and Asperger's syndrome. Belgians with dementia can also request the medications used for assisted dying. In addition to the countries that allow assisted dying, which is defined as hastening the process for a patient who is already dying, assisted suicide — death for someone who is not terminally ill — is legal in Switzerland, Germany, Japan, Canada, and six U.S. states plus Washington, D.C.

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