Do you trust 0bama's motives in economic policy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Baruch Menachem, Jan 14, 2010.

?

Is 0bama Genuine?

Poll closed Jan 21, 2010.
  1. He knows what he is doing, and that is a bad thing

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
  2. He is clueless

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  3. Bush screwed the pooch so badly that it will take him a long time to fix the problem

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  1. Baruch Menachem
    Offline

    Baruch Menachem '

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    14,204
    Thanks Received:
    3,235
    Trophy Points:
    185
    Ratings:
    +3,305
    One of the more interesting comments of Machiavelli in The Prince is that if you want to hold on to power you have seized from a republic, you don't make things better, you make things deliberately worse. People will hold onto any spar in a storm, and will seize onto the stability of no change, no matter how much things get worse. People only want change when they are comfortable. When things are scary, they seek to avoid it.

    I think this chapter is sort of what drives the realy sad histories of the world.. like Cuba, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Russia, China, Ethiopia.... The list goes on.

    0bama does not like dissent, seems not to be too comfortable with open democratic process... and his economic policies always seem to be the opposite of what has been shown to be effective. He does seem to be deliberately driving the economy ever further down.

    I hade never trusted him. I have always thought him to be smarter than the guys who thought they were pulling his strings, and I have long thought his attitudes about alternative views to be a danger.

    So, do you think he is clueless, or dangerous?
     
  2. Sinatra
    Offline

    Sinatra Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    8,013
    Thanks Received:
    1,005
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +1,005
    Hell no I don't trust him.

    Take his newly proposed "Bank Tax"

    Under the guise of "getting our money back" Obama will attach a 15% tax on a group of firms whether they took bailout money or not.

    And some of those same firms were FORCED to take bailout money.

    A number of those firms have paid some or ALL of the money back already.

    This tax is a tax on Americans. It is a tax on small business.

    And they call in bankers yesterday to shake their fingers at them - but they did not call in FANNIE or FREDDIE. What kind of BULLSHIT is that?

    Trust Obama???

    HELL NO.
     
  3. uscitizen
    Offline

    uscitizen Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    45,941
    Thanks Received:
    4,791
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    My Shack
    Ratings:
    +4,807
    There is no option for not trusting any politician.
     
  4. Oscar Wao
    Offline

    Oscar Wao Victory is Mine

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2008
    Messages:
    2,139
    Thanks Received:
    301
    Trophy Points:
    98
    Location:
    Quahog, RI
    Ratings:
    +301
    First of all, I don't place trust in government. Second of all, even if I did, Obama is an ignoramus in even basic economics, so I wouldn't anyway.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. Zoom-boing
    Offline

    Zoom-boing Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    25,061
    Thanks Received:
    7,260
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Location:
    East Japip
    Ratings:
    +10,120
    I have said this to my husband more times than I can count.

    I don't think he is clueless at all.
     
  6. Claudette
    Offline

    Claudette Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    19,558
    Thanks Received:
    3,009
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +7,625
    I totally agree. I have never liked or trusted this guy and his tax will be payed by we the consumer. Does he honestly think the banks are going to pay for taxes??? This will drive up cost for anyone trying to do business with these banks. This guy has an agenda and he doesn't care what it costs to achieve that agenda. He has an ego the size of Texas.

    Trust Obama

    HELL NO
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2010
  7. Oldandtired
    Offline

    Oldandtired BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,618
    Thanks Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Long Island
    Ratings:
    +349
    Yes...someone please tell me where Freddie and Fannie were yetserday? They were just as much involved as anyone else...and some, myslef included, believe they were at the center of it.

    Likewise, where is the outrage for the Feds 46 billion dollar profit last year? Hillary and Obama, just to name 2, expressed horrible outrage for Exxons 45 billion dollar profit...yet there is silence for the Feds profit.

    Nope...no trust in this corner. None.
     
  8. TheSuaveOne
    Offline

    TheSuaveOne Man without a party

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    617
    Thanks Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Chicago
    Ratings:
    +61
    Flawed poll. Sorry. Do I trust Obama's motives? Sure I do. How can anyone think he doesn't want his policies to turn the economy around. Unfortunately, I don't believe his policies will correct the problem no matter how good the intent.

    -TSO
     
  9. California Girl
    Offline

    California Girl BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2009
    Messages:
    50,337
    Thanks Received:
    8,960
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +8,965
    I think he knows exactly what he is doing. I think he knows exactly where it will lead.

    "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

    Claward & Piven anyone?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. Zoom-boing
    Offline

    Zoom-boing Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    25,061
    Thanks Received:
    7,260
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Location:
    East Japip
    Ratings:
    +10,120
    Ding, we have a winner!
     

Share This Page