Do you think it's okay..........

[manu1959]

Nearly 500 posts doesn't qualify for 'newbie' status, ya think?

O K ms twenty two thou sand

 

[-Cp]

isn't up to the couple to decide what is hurtful?

No, because that's subjective relativism.... and that ALWAYS leads to a path down the wrong road...

 

[Joz]

...."I was absolutely shocked by what I found. I talked to people whose lives were really destroyed by pornography. Even the people who didn't bottom out--total porn addiction, marriages breaking up, people losing their jobs, which did happen--even the people who didn't go to that extreme were profoundly affected by porn. Sometimes they realized they were, but often they didn't realize the effects pornography had on them."...........


http://www.beliefnet.com/story/177/story_17736_1.html


And yet another


1) Pornography feeds lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh, which are never satisfied. It leaves the viewer craving more and more in order to achieve the same "sexual high." It easily enslaves people to their own cravings and opens the door to other forms of evil, like anger, abuse, violence, hatred, lying, envy, compulsiveness and selfishness. The power behind porn is revealed when the porn addict tries to stop their habit - its virtually impossible without help.

http://www.porn-free.org/porn_is_bad.htm

 

[manu1959]

No, because that's subjective relativism.... and that ALWAYS leads to a path down the wrong road...

so who do you let decide for you that you are not on the wrong road and don't say god

 

[Abbey Normal]

...."I was absolutely shocked by what I found. I talked to people whose lives were really destroyed by pornography. Even the people who didn't bottom out--total porn addiction, marriages breaking up, people losing their jobs, which did happen--even the people who didn't go to that extreme were profoundly affected by porn. Sometimes they realized they were, but often they didn't realize the effects pornography had on them."...........


http://www.beliefnet.com/story/177/story_17736_1.html


And yet another


1) Pornography feeds lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh, which are never satisfied. It leaves the viewer craving more and more in order to achieve the same "sexual high." It easily enslaves people to their own cravings and opens the door to other forms of evil, like anger, abuse, violence, hatred, lying, envy, compulsiveness and selfishness. The power behind porn is revealed when the porn addict tries to stop their habit - its virtually impossible without help.

http://www.porn-free.org/porn_is_bad.htm

I have heard that marriage counselors are being kept quite busy with couples in crisis over husbands' Internet porn addictions. Sorry, no linky-poo.

 

[manu1959]

I have heard that marriage counselors are being kept quite busy with couples in crisis over husbands' Internet porn addictions. Sorry, no linky-poo.

yes tis always the man.......

 

[dmp]

isn't up to the couple to decide what is hurtful?

No - what the couple FEELS is besides the point. What REALLY IS HAPPENING is the point.

 

[jillian]

Nearly 500 posts doesn't qualify for 'newbie' status, ya think?

Heh! OK, so I'm loquatious. :happy2:

 

[manu1959]

No - what the couple FEELS is besides the point. What REALLY IS HAPPENING is the point.

what is really happing is the copule has discussed the issue and feels everything is fine.....

you post pics of hot chicks....porn in somes book....if you fantizie of others....porn in somes book......if you have sex other than for procreation...porn in somes book...if you have sex for procreation and enjoy it...porn in somes book....where is the line ?

 

[dilloduck]

what is really happing is the copule has discussed the issue and feels everything is fine.....

you post pics of hot chicks....porn in somes book....if you fantizie of others....porn in somes book......if you have sex other than for procreation...porn in somes book...if you have sex for procreation and enjoy it...porn in somes book....where is the line ?

Cmon MANU!!-----Will porn make you do crazy shit that will in turn cause you to wreck your relationship? You know--like the hairy palms thing except it happens to your mind like a drug. Will it take you over ?? Don't get lost in the details.

 

[manu1959]

Cmon MANU!!-----Will porn make you do crazy shit that will in turn cause you to wreck your relationship? You know--like the hairy palms thing except it happens to your mind like a drug. Will it take you over ?? Don't get lost in the details.

porn is god way of saying trade up or close your eyes and trade up.....ladder therory

 

[-Cp]

so who do you let decide for you that you are not on the wrong road and don't say god

The one whom created me knows best I think...

 

[Nienna]

You guys are really getting to me... I WOKE UP thinking about this debate on the board!

I am with Cp, Starla, & Jeff. If the primary purpose of sex is the physical manifestation of the spiritual marital bond, then any EXTERNAL stimulation is, at best, distracting, and at worst, destructive to that bond. A couple should completely focus on joining themselves, one to the other, during that act.

If you believe sex is primarily about pleasure, you will, of course, disagree. I guess the next step in the debate is: What is the main purpose of sex?

 

[Nienna]

so who do you let decide for you that you are not on the wrong road and don't say god

Manu, my good man... could you go to work and leave your heart at home? If you take away "God" as an option, how can a Christian answer this?

 

[JOKER96BRAVO]

You guys are really getting to me... I WOKE UP thinking about this debate on the board!

I am with Cp, Starla, & Jeff. If the primary purpose of sex is the physical manifestation of the spiritual marital bond, then any EXTERNAL stimulation is, at best, distracting, and at worst, destructive to that bond. A couple should completely focus on joining themselves, one to the other, during that act.

If you believe sex is primarily about pleasure, you will, of course, disagree. I guess the next step in the debate is: What is the main purpose of sex?

If your talking F#$% vs "making love", I believe there is a time for both.
Sex doesn't always have to be about bonding.

 

[Said1]

I have heard that marriage counselors are being kept quite busy with couples in crisis over husbands' Internet porn addictions. Sorry, no linky-poo.

I know a newly married don't-live-together-because-the-kids-hater-her couple who are in this situation. The wedding was held off because of live internet porn "chatting".

My ex-husband asked me what that was, after showing him, his answer "cheating".

 

[JOKER96BRAVO]

I know a newly married don't-live-together-because-the-kids-hater-her couple who are in this situation. The wedding was held off because of live internet porn "chatting".

My ex-husband asked me what that was, after showing him, his answer "cheating".

Now net chat or any other porn without the spouses consent is not cool.
Having said that, I feel the same way about toys for individual use, without
consent of course. The healthiest sexual relationship is an honest one.

 

[Said1]

Now net chat or any other porn without the spouses consent is not cool.

Misread. Ignore previous comment.

 

[Said1]

.
Having said that, I feel the same way about toys for individual use, without
consent of course. The healthiest sexual relationship is an honest one.

I agree. I'd be PISSED if my husband didn't ask first.

 

[Nienna]

If your talking F#$% vs "making love", I believe there is a time for both.
Sex doesn't always have to be about bonding.

Sex IS a bond. Your intention doesn't have to be "bonding." Many people do it just for the release. But, the bond can't be avoided. People are joining their bodies during the act.