Do you think China really a threat to the United States?

[Unkotare]

When there are 100 people waiting and ready to take his place, and there are no labor protections like we have here? Sure.

And from where do you get your source of information?....

People who own businesses, and work with the government in China. There are lots of environmental protection laws there too, but that doesn't mean they are always followed.

Start a business in China...You lose the right to vote........

What right to vote?

China has "elections"....

Not really. Some little village things here and there, but for the most part, no.

 

[Indeependent]

And from where do you get your source of information?....

People who own businesses, and work with the government in China. There are lots of environmental protection laws there too, but that doesn't mean they are always followed.

Start a business in China...You lose the right to vote........

What right to vote?

China has "elections"....

Not really. Some little village things here and there, but for the most part, no.

You could be correct but you still lose whatever support you might need in the future.
I have to inquire more on the voting issue.

 

[Unkotare]

People who own businesses, and work with the government in China. There are lots of environmental protection laws there too, but that doesn't mean they are always followed.

Start a business in China...You lose the right to vote........

What right to vote?

China has "elections"....

Not really. Some little village things here and there, but for the most part, no.

You could be correct but you still lose whatever support you might need in the future.
I have to inquire more on the voting issue.

No, you don't. I just asked a Chinese citizen two minutes ago. I work with Chinese folks for hours everyday. We have discussed this at length.

 

[Indeependent]

Start a business in China...You lose the right to vote........

What right to vote?

China has "elections"....

Not really. Some little village things here and there, but for the most part, no.

You could be correct but you still lose whatever support you might need in the future.
I have to inquire more on the voting issue.

No, you don't. I just asked a Chinese citizen two minutes ago. I work with Chinese folks for hours everyday. We have discussed this at length.

Someone who deals with FoxConn?
Are they in the wealthy city of Shanghai?
My son and friends deal with them and confirm the crap that goes on.
It could be like having discussions with a Liberal and a Conservative in America where 2 people give very different points of view despite the facts.

 

[Unkotare]

Are they in the wealthy city of Shanghai?....

From many parts of China. You really can take my word for it.

 

[Indeependent]

Are they in the wealthy city of Shanghai?....

From many parts of China. You really can take my word for it.

I would actually be very happy to hear that because I have worked on Wall Street with many Business Visas from China and they were very fine people.
I know the Chinese have been fighting mightily for their rights and I hope they are making great strides,

 

[Unkotare]

.....
I know the Chinese have been fighting mightily for their rights and I hope they are making great strides,

Not really and not really.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says it's prob'ly a dry run so dey can learn how to sneak up on our ships...

Chinese submarine tracked U.S. aircraft carrier off Japan
Thu November 5, 2015 | Washington - An American aircraft carrier was closely tracked by a Chinese submarine off the coast of Japan last month, a U.S. defense official said, in the latest example of the test of wills between the two countries in the waters of the Pacific.

A submerged Chinese Kilo-class fast-attack submarine shadowed the USS Ronald Reagan for at least half a day on October 24, the official said. He did not say how close the two vessels came to each other, but he noted, "It was more than a brief encounter." There was no indication of threatening behavior, and no communications exchanged between the two craft, he said, but American anti-submarine aircraft monitored the Chinese vessel. Chinese officials have not yet commented on the matter.

Separately, U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter was on board the USS Theodore Roosevelt Thursday as the carrier traveled through the South China Sea, according to the Pentagon. The U.S. defense official played down the threatening nature of the submarine incident, saying that any time the U.S. conducts joint exercises with Japan, the Chinese sometimes "come out and take a look at what's going on." But it is always a concern when ships operate in close proximity, according to one former carrier strike group commander who has experienced several encounters like this. "Some person cuts off the other one. Ships can collide. We've had cases where people didn't understand intent, where gun-mounts were trained," said retired Adm. Pete Daly, who now heads the U.S. Naval Institute. "There's the potential for misunderstanding or the potential for a strategic miscalculation."

At the height of the Cold War, American and Soviet ships and submarines would stalk each other across the world's oceans in a high-stakes game of cat and mouse, testing each other's capabilities. In 1984, a Soviet submarine and an American aircraft carrier, the Kitty Hawk, collided in the Sea of Japan, causing some damage to the Soviet vessel. But there is also a potential benefit when competing navies have close encounters. "The truth is, we track them tracking us, and we learn about their capabilities," said Robert Daly, who directs the Kissinger Institute on China at the Woodrow Wilson Center. "Chinese submarines are growing in number, but they're still relatively noisy," he pointed out. "They're at least a generation behind us. And when they track us, we find out what they are capable of."

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[Gracie]

Yes. Dad said so back in the 60's when everyone was about russia....Dad said "gotta watch those chinese, hon. They will be our downfall".

 

[waltky]

Gracie wrote: Yes. Dad said so back in the 60's when everyone was about russia....Dad said "gotta watch those chinese, hon. They will be our downfall".

Same here.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Only threat to the USA is the USA's government.

 

[waltky]

Lets give them something to talk about...

China accuses US of serious military provocation
Dec 19,`15 -- China on Saturday accused the U.S. of committing a "serious military provocation" by flying an Air Force B-52 strategic bomber over a Chinese-controlled man-made island in the South China Sea.

China's Defense Ministry said in a statement that the U.S. is deliberately raising tensions in the disputed region where China has been aggressively asserting its claims to virtually all islands, reefs and their surrounding seas. "The actions by the U.S. side constitute a serious military provocation and are rendering more complex and even militarizing conditions in the South China Sea.," the statement said. It demanded Washington immediately take measures to prevent such incidents and damage to relations between the two nations' militaries. The statement said Chinese military personnel on the island went on high alert during the Dec. 10 overflight and issued warnings demanding the aircraft leave the area. As it has in past, the ministry also said it would take whatever necessary measures to protect China's sovereignty and security. The U.S. takes no official stance on sovereignty claims in the strategically crucial sea through which $5 trillion in international trade passes each year.

However, Washington insists on freedom of navigation through the sea and its airspace and maintains that China's seven newly created islands do not enjoy traditional rights including a 12-nautical mile (22-kilometer) territorial limit. News reports quoted Pentagon spokesman Cmdr. Bill Urban as saying in Washington that China had raised its complaints over the flight and the U.S. was investigating. However, Urban said the flight was not a "freedom of navigation" operation, indicating that the plane may have strayed off course. The U.S. uses pre-planned freedom of navigation operations to assert its rights to "innocent passage" in other country's territorial waters.

Critics in the U.S. say freedom of navigation operations around the man-made islands appear to contradict Washington's assertions that they have no right to territorial waters in the first place. Actions by the U.S. and others challenging Chinese sovereignty claims in the South China have drawn increasingly strident responses from Beijing. Beijing complained when the guided missile destroyer USS Lassen sailed within 12 nautical miles (22 kilometers) of Subi Reef in October, and China's navy has issued warnings to U.S. military aircraft flying within what it considers the islands' territorial limit.

News from The Associated Press

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

If so why?

Watch CCTV America and you will realize why!

 

[waltky]

Oops!...

U.S. says bombers didn't intend to fly over China-held islands
December 19, 2015 -- The United States said its two B-52 bombers had no intention of flying over a Chinese-controlled man-made island in the South China Sea, after Beijing accused Washington of "a serious military provocation" in the strategic waters with overlapping claims.

China's Defence Ministry on Saturday accused the U.S. of deliberately raising tensions in the region, where China has been aggressively asserting its claims to virtually all islands, reefs and their surrounding seas. It reiterated that it would do whatever is necessary to protect China's sovereignty. Pentagon spokesman Mark Wright said that the Dec. 10 mission was not a "freedom of navigation" operation and that there was "no intention of flying within 12 nautical miles of any feature," indicating the mission may have strayed off course.

The South China Sea is pictured in this Google map.​

The U.S. uses pre-planned freedom of navigation operations to assert its rights to "innocent passage" in other country's territorial waters. "The United States routinely conducts B-52 training missions throughout the region, including over the South China Sea," Wright said in an email to The Associated Press. "These missions are designed to maintain readiness and demonstrate our commitment to fly, sail and operate anywhere allowed under international law." Wright said the U.S. was "looking into the matter."

The U.S. takes no official stance on sovereignty claims in the South China Sea, through which $5 trillion in international trade passes each year. However, Washington insists on freedom of navigation and maintains that China's seven newly created islands do not enjoy traditional rights, including a 12-nautical-mile (22-kilometre) territorial limit. China's Defence Ministry demanded that Washington immediately take measures to prevent such incidents and damage to relations between the two nations' militaries. "The actions by the U.S. side constitute a serious military provocation and are rendering more complex and even militarizing conditions in the South China Sea," the ministry said in a statement.

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[MDiver]

Is China a threat to the United States?
Threats:
1. Islam (technically, they're a threat to all non-Islamic nations).
2. North Korea.
3. Russia.
4. China.
Added future threats:
1. Europistan.
2. Canadistan.

 

[waltky]

Not if all dey gonna do is offshore it's nuclear plants...

China to build nuclear power plants on artificial islands
22 Apr.`16 - China's quest to fence off a big chunk of the South China Sea may have just gotten another, powerful boost: plans for a fleet of floating nuclear power plants that could provide huge amounts of electricity for the far-flung atolls and islets.

While floating nuclear power plants are hardly a novel idea, their use in the South China Sea - a typhoon-wracked hotbed of territorial disputes and increasing military rivalries - would be worrisome both for environmental and security reasons. Chinese state media said Friday that Beijing plans to build as many as 20 floating nuclear power plants to supply power to remote locations. That could include offshore oil drilling rigs and the sparsely inhabited islands that China has spent the past two years building up and steadily turning into military outposts.

Floating nuclear plants have been around for decades. Most recently, Russia's Rosatom started building floating nuclear plants for use in remote locations, such as the Arctic. Those plants are powered by the same, tiny nuclear reactors used in Russia's biggest icebreakers. Indeed, China's floating plants will be built by China Shipbuilding Industry Corp., the country's biggest constructor of naval vessels, including nuclear submarines. CSIC is close to finishing Beijing's first floating reactor.

Nuclear power experts said there are few technical obstacles to converting naval nuclear plants into stationary generators; the U.S. Navy has operated nuclear-powered submarines and aircraft carriers for decades, with a sterling safety record. "The Chinese have been operating nuclear-powered submarines for a number of years. It's not a big leap" to modify those power plants into electricity generators, said Rod Adams, who served as the engineer officer on a U.S. nuclear sub and now publishes Atomic Insights, an industry reference. He said there are "few insurmountable challenges" to deploying those reactors by 2020. But China's nuclear plans cause concern for both security analysts and some nuclear power experts. Many Chinese initiatives, from port deals in the Indian Ocean to its frantic building in the South China Sea, ostensibly serve civilian purposes but can also mask military buildups.

In recent years, Beijing has turned tiny atolls into artificial islands, replete with military-grade airfields and, in some cases, with advanced air-defense radars. Adding a big new source of power could make those military systems a lot more powerful, potentially giving China the ability to create a no-go zone in the air and waters around its fake islands. That's especially worrisome since the United States is trying to ensure free and open access to the waters in the South China Sea, one of the world's busiest and most important trade thoroughfares.

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[JustAnotherNut]

Only threat to the USA is the USA's government.

....or it's people. Both are a threat

 

[waltky]

China gonna send nuke subs to patrol Pacific...

China Reportedly Will Send Nuclear-Armed Submarines to Patrol Pacific
May 27, 2016 - The Chinese military reportedly is planning to send submarines armed with nuclear weapons to patrol the Pacific Ocean for the first time amid territorial disputes over islands in the region.\

The Guardian, citing Chinese military officials, said that while the timing for a maiden patrol has not yet been determined, Beijing insists that such an action is inevitable. The report comes days after U.S. President Barack Obama announced that he had lifted a decades-long arms embargo against Vietnam. Chinese officials publicly praised the move, but an opinion piece in a state-run newspaper warned that any attempt to enlist Vietnam in an effort to contain China "bodes ill for regional peace and stability, as it would further complicate the situation in the South China Sea, and risk turning the region into a tinderbox of conflicts."

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry responded Monday by saying that it was China's actions in the South and East China Seas that could create a tinderbox. "I would caution China to not unilaterally move to engage in reclamation activities and militarization of islands," he said. The Pentagon says China has reclaimed more than 3,200 acres of land in the South China Sea and is developing and building military installations on the manmade islands.

Chinese submarine. People's Liberation Army Navy photo​

As a consequence, the U.S. and Vietnam have steadily strengthened their relationship in recent years, in line with growing Vietnamese concern over Chinese moves to assert its maritime claims. Despite China and Vietnam being Communist countries, clashes in 1988 over their conflicting claims in the South China Sea killed dozens of people. The tensions reared again in 2014, when China parked an oil rig off Vietnam's central coast, sparking confrontations at sea and deadly anti-China riots in Vietnam. Last week, the Pentagon said two Chinese fighter jets flew within about 50 feet of a U.S. Navy reconnaissance plane in what was termed an "unsafe intercept."

China responded by demanding that the U.S. end surveillance patrols around the South China Sea, with a foreign ministry spokesman claiming that such missions "seriously endanger Chinese maritime security." Earlier this month, a U.S. Navy destroyer sailed within 12 miles of China's Fiery Cross reef, an artificial island made after months of dredging operations. It was the third time the Navy sailed a warship close to a contested Chinese island in what the Pentagon calls "freedom of navigation" operations. Beijing responded by scrambling fighter jets to show its displeasure.

China Reportedly Will Send Nuclear-Armed Submarines to Patrol Pacific | Military.com

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South China Sea dispute: G7 nations warned against meddling by Chinese media
Thursday 26th May, 2016 - Chinese state media on May 26 warned the G7 nations, who have gathered in Japan for talks, to not interfere with the South China Sea disputes.

The G7 talks will take place from May 26 at a secluded resort on Kashiko Island, 300 kilometers (190 miles) southwest of Tokyo. According to reports, this came after European Council President Donald Tusk said that the G7 nations should take a "clear and tough stance" on China’s maritime claims. China has claimed almost all of South China Sea. The country is building artificial islands which can host military planes and that has angered most of the Southeast Asian countries. China’s official Xinhua news agency published an article that said that G7 "should mind its own business rather than pointing fingers at others."

Xinhua writer Chang Yuan added that Japan was attempting to take advantage of its G7 summit host status and draw more 'allies and sympathisers' to isolate China". China, in April, had reacted with anger over statements made by G7 foreign ministers expressing opposition to any "intimidating, coercive or provocative" actions in the East China Sea and South China Sea.

Robert Dujarric, director of the Institute of Contemporary Asian Studies at Temple University in Japan said, "Basically Japan and the U.S. are trying to get the Europeans on board to express concern about China’s actions. Even a veiled statement would be a victory for Tokyo and Washington. It puts Beijing on notice that even countries which first and foremost care about making money in China are worried." Xinhua writer Chang has written that weighing in on South China Sea "exceeds the G7's current influence and capability. What's more, it reflects a lingering Cold War mindset.”

According to reports, his commentary comes weeks ahead of a ruling on China’s claims which have been brought to the Permanent Court of Arbitration in the Hague by the Philippines. British Prime Minister David Cameron has warned China that it should abide by the outcome of international arbitration. Six Pacific nations including Brunei, Malaysia, Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam have territorial claims in the South China Sea that is believed to have huge deposits of oil and gas and also witness over $5 trillion in global ship-borne trade passing by each year.

South China Sea dispute G7 nations warned against meddling by Chinese media

 

[irosie91]

yes------in regard to territorial disputes and rights and shipping routes
----etc China will VERY LIKELY be a threat

 

[Vikrant]

yes------in regard to territorial disputes and rights and shipping routes
----etc China will VERY LIKELY be a threat

You should be an English teacher. You write so beautifully. Have you considered getting a job as an English teacher at a local school where you are?