Do you smoke tobacco

Discussion in 'Health and Lifestyle' started by Wry Catcher, Apr 29, 2012.

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Do you Smoke?

  1. Yes, I smoke

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  2. Yes, I smoke and want to quit

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. No, I have never smoked

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  4. No, I quit.

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
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    I much prefer clove cigs. but Obama outlawed those.
     
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    Here is the way I see it.

    The primary funding of SCHIP is tobacco taxes.
    Anybody that doesn't help fund SCHIP hates poor children.
    If you are not using tobacco then you are not helping to fund medical care for poor children.
    That makes you a hater of poor children.
    Don't be a hater.
     
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    It might be called the Cancer Research act but it doesn't provide for any actual research, the money goes to feed the insatialble maw of funding social programs.
     
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    Yes. I also enjoy both weed and cannabis resin (just had one, actually).
     
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    send some my way
     
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    Nope. Never have; never will. I find it rather disgusting.


    However, as anti-smoking as I am, I oppose tobacco taxes.

    It grows government and becomes dependent on people to continue smoking to fund such government. If revenue falls due to fewer people paying into these taxes, somehow it will eventually come around to the rest of us to have to make up for the shortage. So ironically, they need to encourage smoking to fund such programs, and some of the insipid anti-smoking commercials like the "truth" campaign only antagonize people.

    When Rob "Meathead" Reiner got his tobacco tax passed (1998's Proposition 10), it funded the First Five California campaign. Subsequently, this group (with Reiner as chairman) would illegally promote a new initiative (2006's Proposition 82) for "Universal Pre-school" (Reiner would eventually have to resign from FFC because of the obvious conflict). Luckily that initiative was defeated.

    I will be voting against this Prop 29.

    But let's flip things around. Say I put on an initiative promising to fund cancer research with a million-dollar a pack tax. How would that turn out? I could taunt people who vote against that as being insensitive toward people suffering from cancer (and I have friends who are going through that hell). But it’s not practical to have a million dollar tax on a pack of smokes. But even a dollar a pack on addicted smokers heavily burdens them already more than the existing taxes do now.

    It would be easy for me to pick on smokers, as much as their habit has been a nuisance on my life, by putting an additional financial burden on them, but then the next tax increase idea will be on something I like (e.g., sugar). I am weary people targeting minorities.
     
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    Wry's a hater.

    Why does he hate chillun?
     

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